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Quote:I don't think we'll be making a playoff run next year.  No reason to get a player a 'year early' unless you are ready for a playoff/super bowl run.  Having him for a .500 year is pretty pointless.  This isn't quite "Gene Smith" level of thinking, because it's a 1st for a 1st, and not a 2nd for a 3rd.  But it's still not a very sound strategy.  

 

We're not two or three players away from being a playoff team.  If we get our QB at 3, then we'll be closer.  And if we get a pass rusher, we'll be closer.  But we've still got a long ways to go.  

 

Don't trade the future for the now unless now is ready for a super bowl run, and the window is closing.

 

 

Quote:I'm still reminded of that quote.  You want to spend next years first round pick on a guy if he falls out of the top 20 of this years first round.  I think it's asinine.  Next years first round pick could very well be in the top 15 again.  I don't think it's good business to trade away the future when it's imperative to get the picks right for the continued rebuild.  Washington is running into this exact problem and I would sincerely hope that our front office doesn't want to follow in the footsteps of Chainsaw Dan Snyder.

 

The way that I see this being advantageous for the team is if the trade meets certain conditions:

 

• the 2014 20-something pick only costs the team their 2015 draft pick - I guess I did a poor job of delineating this in my original post
  
• Anthony Barr is considered by the team to be a top five to ten talent - I think this is accurate since many considered Barr to be in that range for most of the football season
  
• the team has done their "future" research and believes that Barr is / will be better than what will be available in whatever range they figure the team to be drafting next season
  

 

In my mind, if the trade can meet those stipulations, then you do it. There's nothing wrong with getting a First Round pick one year early.

We are not trading up prior to round 3, and even that is iffy. If we do trade up it will only be a few spots so the only thing it will cost us is an extra 5th. I dont see caldwell giving up any picks in the first 4 rounds.

Quote:Doesn't seem like a good idea to trade a top 10-15 2015 pick for a guy that falls to the mid 20's in this draft. 

 

Never be the team that trades AWAY future first round picks. I don't care who its for. 

I'd rather keep our picks, Im not for trading away our picks. I also dont seem to be on the Barr-wagon either.

This was completely hypothetical I'm surprised their are so many Barr haters, he's good. 

No hes not. He big and fast. Not good.

Quote:No hes not. He big and fast. Not good.

 

Give credit where it is due - Barr is good.

 

Not many players can post back to back 20+ tfl seasons having never previously played as a defensive player.

 

The interesting part is he is still developing and if he is at this stage of his career already showing tremendous promise and upside as a pass rusher, imagine what a good coach can do for a young, malleable player like Barr under the tutelage of Gus Bradley.

Quote:This was completely hypothetical I'm surprised their are so many Barr haters, he's good. 

 

Not hating on Barr.  Just hating on trading future first round draft picks for a player who falls out of the top 20.