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Quote:It was the fact that talks were going well that was the point. Also, just like with Hardy, Byrd will most likely be franchised if they don't reach a long term deal before the tag deadline.

Byrd was franchised last year.

Not good for the Jags.  The best players will get re-signed, leaving mediocre talents to be had only if you win a bidding war.

 

This will lead to overpaying for mediocre talent.  Great.

Quote:Byrd was franchised last year.

 

Is there a limit as to how many times you can get franchised?

 

I remember Donovin Darius being tagged for 3 years straight IIRC.

Quote:Is there a limit as to how many times you can get franchised?

 

I remember Donovin Darius being tagged for 3 years straight IIRC.

Im not sure how many times a player can get franchised but I know you cant franchise a player 2 years in a row.

Quote:Im not sure how many times a player can get franchised but I know you cant franchise a player 2 years in a row.

 

 

Must be a recent change because like I said, Darius was tagged 3 years in a row.  Wasn't aware that they changed the rule - probably happened with the new CBA

You can only tag people 2 years in a row now.

Quote:You can only tag people 2 years in a row now.

Oh, I must of heard it wrong.

Quote:Not good for the Jags.  The best players will get re-signed, leaving mediocre talents to be had only if you win a bidding war.

 

This will lead to overpaying for mediocre talent.  Great.

 

Precisely what I hate. Overpaying for the Tony Pashos' & Clint Session of the NFL world...

Quote:Goodell probably knew the Jaguars were going to make a run at and probably land Greg Hardy, so he quickly figured out a way to stop that from happening, by raising the salary cap amount for all the teams. Lord knows, Goodell wants no part of the Jags being successful while still in Jacksonville, as that don't help him get his way of the Jags moving to London or LA...

 

I'm kidding/ the above is in jest........maybe..... :confused:

 

 

Not a Goodell fan at all though. 

 

Man, it was so nice not to have to read such stupidity during your "vacation".

 

You should realize, but apparently don't, that the push behind raising the cap figure - which is an accounting/financial procedure - is the Player's Association, not Roger Goodell. The NFLPA wants to make sure their members get their share of league revenues.

 

Do you really think Goodell, who works for the owners, wants the owners to have to pay out more in salary?

 

OK, lesson over. Return to your tired agenda.

This is the time of year Caldwell makes his money.  He did sign Marks,W.  Blackmon, Ball, and other good players that may have not been well known.  Caldwell also had a good draft last year. 

 

The jags will need to overpay a couple of players but we have talent and can afford to do so.  Sign more undrafted FA's with some middle tier players. This team having  over $50 million in cap space and 10 draft picks should make this a competitive team next year.

Quote:This is the time of year Caldwell makes his money. He did sign Marks,W. Blackmon, Ball, and other good players that may have not been well known. Caldwell also had a good draft last year.


The jags will need to overpay a couple of players but we have talent and can afford to do so. Sign more undrafted FA's with some middle tier players. This team having over $50 million in cap space and 10 draft picks should make this a competitive team next year.

I hope we resign Blackmon

Wow...


http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=10532044

Quote:Wow...

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=10532044

 

Doin' Jerry Jones a solid

so why even have a salary cap when it's going to be that high?  Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of the cap?

 

Might as well just get rid of it

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Secondly, a higher salary cap figure may cut into the Jaguars' profitability.  Teams will have to spend up to a certain percentage of the salary cap. 

First, the salary cap raise is directly proportional to the league's revenue growth so it shouldn't affect the Jags profitability.

 

Second, teams have to spend to the 89% threshold over a four year period, that started last year. So really they don't have to spend big until the 2016 season FA cycle. By then they could easily have 100 million in bonus roll over cap room if they stay with the mid level/opportunistic FAs. Which is fine to me because that's probably when our draft and develop philosophy will really be booming if done right. 

 

Lastly, the only penalty for not spending to the 89% cap is that you have to pay the difference out evenly across the players on your roster. No fines, no draft pick loss, no other penalties...so while spending to the cap will probably happen I don't think teams are going to massively alter their team building philosophies just because of the 89% rule.

Quote:Wow...

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=10532044

 

We've forgotten how bad the CBA was.  Once it was signed, everyone went into false relief because the season returned, but in time it will come back to haunt.

Quote:Watching NFL Network this morning, they indicated the NFL will determine the Salary Cap today.  The speculation is, the cap will be set around $133 million this year, higher than the earlier expected $126 million.

 

If this is true, this has two potentially negative repercussions for the Jaguars.

 

First, a higher salary cap will enable teams to keep more of their players.  Instead of a guy like Greg Hardy walking, maybe now Carolina can accommodate his salary demands.

 

Secondly, a higher salary cap figure may cut into the Jaguars' profitability.  Teams will have to spend up to a certain percentage of the salary cap.  The higher that number is, the more in expenses each team will have.  To a low revenue team like the Jaguars, that may make a huge difference, especially when you factor in how much the Jaguars are contributing to the new video board. 

 

Discuss.

Guess Poz and Lewis don't have to worry bout restructuring after all!

Quote:Yes, but if you lose the traditional idiot like me that would buy 4 tickets, drag my family to tailgates and spend $25 parking and $100+ at the stadium during home games .... and 30+ year olds start hanging at home with the $300 NFL Ticket and 12 pack of Stella ($16) the NFL will lose in the long run.   That's what I see happening.

I broke this down a year or two ago, the 'stadium' experience is a little less than a quarter of NFL income, they won't miss it near as much as you think, and, on the converse, the cap is driven much more by TV revenue than stadium, so the tickets will not rocket exponentially. Its all about the viewing audience.

 

So until the NFL gets stupid greedy and still tries to jack up stadium prices exponentially to keep up with the TV prices, your stadium experience (price wise) ought to stay nearly the same.

Quote:Im not sure how many times a player can get franchised but I know you cant franchise a player 2 years in a row.

Its upto 2 years straight, and 3 times in their career (with the third franchise being the highest average of any playing group (i.e. you have to pay that punter QB franchise money if you franchise him the 3rd time now).

Quote:Guess Poz and Lewis don't have to worry bout restructuring after all!

 

I hope you don't mean that just because the cap is going up then its okay to pay Marcedes what we are. His contract is still ridiculous and I hope we can upgrade him in the draft, hopefully with Troy Niklas. Then we can cut/ trade him shortly after or sometime during the upcoming season prior to the deadline.