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Quote:That's unfair to Manuel. Manuel had a much better comp %, YPA, TD/INT ratio, etc.

 

 

I was thinking the same. Manuel was considered very mature and posed in the pocket with good mechanics but not a high ceiling. Logan Thomas is the exact opposite of that in every way shape or form.

Quote:I mean, yeah, it's possible... he's just so inconsistent. Terribly, terribly inconsistent. If we draft a QB at 3, I'd love to take him as a backup later.

 

Good comparison. Some naive team that doesn't believe the film on him will draft him too high. I watched him a lot in college. He has some really bad games and isn't very accurate. Not a clutch player. He converted from tight end or another position to play QB, and it shows. He's not a natural. 

Quote:Colin K was actually good in college. 

and we are done


In the last 15 years has there even been a QB that was awful in college magically become and good starter? I rather take a raw kid from a small school who put up big numbers then a project QB who just played bad in college.

Actually, Garrappolo has a better shot at being the Kaepernick of this draft.

Quote:Actually, Garrappolo has a better shot at being the Kaepernick of this draft.

Not at a 4.9 forty...

Point has been made. he's not

Guys like Kapernick and Russel Wilson were amazing collegiate QBs, but their draft-status was hurt by lack of publicity and prime-time spotlight at a small school for Kap, and presumed size issues for Wilson.

 

Thomas on the other hand, as many have mentioned in the thread, was a terrible collegiate QB. Not even in the top 30 of QBs this past year. To think he can hang with the NFL competition, when he couldn't even muster good play in the ACC conference, is dreaming a bit too much.  

Quote:Point has been made. he's not

Guys like Kapernick and Russel Wilson were amazing collegiate QBs, but their draft-status was hurt by lack of publicity and prime-time spotlight at a small school for Kap, and presumed size issues for Wilson.

 

Thomas on the other hand, as many have mentioned in the thread, was a terrible collegiate QB. Not even in the top 30 of QBs this past year. To think he can hang with the NFL competition, when he couldn't even muster good play in the ACC conference, is dreaming a bit too much.  

 

The other thing that hurt Kaep was the offense.  While productive it was very unique and probably made him harder to evaluate.  I remember one season Nevada had three guys, including Kaep, run for over 1000 yards!  I think his Nevada teams were routinely running for +4,000 yards each season.  He just wasnt asked to sling the ball around as much as other top prospects.  He was just a big raw athlete.

 

I dont really like the comparison to Logan Thomas.  He is also a big guy and athletic but thats where the comparison ends.  Their body types are different.  Kaep was extremely productive in college while Thomas hasnt been.  Thomas throws a ton of picks.  His comp% is lousy.  He was a prospect everyone knew about and loved after his freshman year.  But he never got better and his stock has dropped with each passing season. 

Kaepernick was the 36th pick and the Niners traded up to get him. That's a premium pick.

Logan has his work cut out for him if he wants to even be the Andy Dalton of the draft.

 

The combine is perfect place for him to shine.  He's got all the measurables to look like a star.  And that's his problem.

 

He's just frustratingly inconsistent when it's game time.  One can hope he can fix whatever it is that causes him problems (footwork, etc.), but until it actually happens all it is, is just that.  Hope.

 

A closer comparison may actually be... Gabbert (worst case.)  Best case... maybe Garrard with more upside and better raw talent/measurables.  A later round pick wouldn't be a bad idea, but folks looking to take him in the second beware.  Third may be early, but he may be gone before four.  (Personally, 4 or 5 would be good for me but that's not necessarily where I expect him to go.)

Quote:Logan has his work cut out for him if he wants to even be the Andy Dalton of the draft.

 

The combine is perfect place for him to shine.  He's got all the measurables to look like a star.  And that's his problem.

 

He's just frustratingly inconsistent when it's game time.  One can hope he can fix whatever it is that causes him problems (footwork, etc.), but until it actually happens all it is, is just that.  Hope.

 

A closer comparison may actually be... Gabbert (worst case.)  Best case... maybe Garrard with more upside and better raw talent/measurables.  A later round pick wouldn't be a bad idea, but folks looking to take him in the second beware.  Third may be early, but he may be gone before four.  (Personally, 4 or 5 would be good for me but that's not necessarily where I expect him to go.)

David Garrard was a stud in college and never had issues his Sr. year, I agree with the Gabbert comparisons tho, Gabbert struggled his last year in college but got away with his size and athletic ability, but Gabbert also had a great Soph year. 

Quote:Was this a serious thread?

Yup, was meant to relate the two as developmental and with the right coaching can bring out potential.....it's gone south of that thinking

I don't think Thomas will do anything past being that guy that had a great camp as a QB. Move him to TE round 5 or later.