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Who are they?

 

I wanna say Kelvin Benjamin. I think he's a product being overhyped from the FSU machine. I think he's good but not first round talent.

Benjamin for sure

 

Bortles and Manziel are pretty overrated as well

 

Clinton Dix is overrated 

 

Lee is a shade overrated

 

De'Cary

 

J Matthews is slightly overrated

 

Not sure about mosley 

 

You can go on and on

I agree with Kelvin Benjamin..  He dominated sometimes against college DBs, but I think he will have a verrry steep learning cure in the NFL.  He doesn't look "smooth" at all.  Yes, he has the size, but we've had big receivers here in Jacksonville before that just didn't know how to use it to their advantage.  Don't get me wrong, I still think Benjamin is an intriguing player, but I would not draft him high.  I would wait until the late 2nd or so.

Definitely Johnny Manziel. The only reason he is expected to be a top five pick is four of those teams need a quarterback. I don't know if that is true with Blake Bortles or not.

 

The list will get a lot longer after all big schools have pro days.

Bridgewater, Benjamin, Robinson

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Why Robinson?

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Most of the players who run sub 4.4

Quote:Who are they?

 

I wanna say Kelvin Benjamin. I think he's a product being overhyped from the FSU machine. I think he's good but not first round talent.

 

If we're basing it on talent alone, he's a first round player. As far as route running, hands, etc, he may not be just yet.

Quote:Why Robinson?

I just dont think he is all that great in pass protection, not to say he wont get better though. I think a run first team would be great for him. Titans or Bills would be a good fit IMO

Putting it out there now:

Clowney.

Quote:Definitely Johnny Manziel. The only reason he is expected to be a top five pick is four of those teams need a quarterback. 

Eh?...eh?...DEFINITELY overrated? really?

Listen, the reason Cam Newton was picked #1 overall is because of what he did on the football field, in the SEC, in one year. Now Johnny comes along, in the same league, does everything Cam did on the football field and more, and yet he's so overrated? I don't get it. 

 

Listen, Johnny has all the stats, heismans, awards, and accolades that every other #1 QB pick over the last 5 or 6 years had. And if he had Newton's height, he'd be consensus #1 right now and you know it. 

And so please tell me, other than physically growing himself a few more inches, what in the world else he could have done ON A FOOTBALL FIELD, besides breaking virtually everything QB record he could his freshman year, that would make him less overrated in your mind? 

 

Come'on...overrated?

Quote:Putting it out there now:

Clowney.

 

I had a feeling somebody might say it.

Quote:Eh?...eh?...DEFINITELY overrated? really?

Listen, the reason Cam Newton was picked #1 overall is because of what he did on the football field, in the SEC, in one year. Now Johnny comes along, in the same league, does everything Cam did on the football field and more, and yet he's so overrated? I don't get it.


Listen, Johnny has all the stats, heismans, awards, and accolades that every other #1 QB pick over the last 5 or 6 years had. And if he had Newton's height, he'd be consensus #1 right now and you know it.

And so please tell me, other than physically growing himself a few more inches, what in the world else he could have done ON A FOOTBALL FIELD, besides breaking virtually everything QB record he could his freshman year, that would make him less overrated in your mind?


Come'on...overrated?

None of that has to do with him as a NFL prospect.

Quote:I just dont think he is all that great in pass protection, not to say he wont get better though. I think a run first team would be great for him. Titans or Bills would be a good fit IMO

 

He isn't that great in pass protection but he came from Auburn so what do you expect. Jake Matthews will have the edge as the top tackle to me because of that. I think Robinson is the better overall athlete, though. If I'm a running back I'd rather have Robinson as my lineman to block for me. If I'm a QB I want Matthews. lol.


 

Quote:Eh?...eh?...DEFINITELY overrated? really?

Listen, the reason Cam Newton was picked #1 overall is because of what he did on the football field, in the SEC, in one year. Now Johnny comes along, in the same league, does everything Cam did on the football field and more, and yet he's so overrated? I don't get it. 

 

Listen, Johnny has all the stats, heismans, awards, and accolades that every other #1 QB pick over the last 5 or 6 years had. And if he had Newton's height, he'd be consensus #1 right now and you know it. 

And so please tell me, other than physically growing himself a few more inches, what in the world else he could have done ON A FOOTBALL FIELD, besides breaking virtually everything QB record he could his freshman year, that would make him less overrated in your mind? 

 

Come'on...overrated?

 

Johnny Manziel is uncomfortable in the pocket, which is a big problem for NFL quarterbacks. He was so good in college because he could make one read in the spread. I know that does not work in the NFL. He is not a shorter version of Cam Newton.

Quote:I had a feeling somebody might say it.

And this is how we know your not the real JW. She doesn't deal in feelings. Facts only.

 

 

 

 

 

(Well she gets alittle confused about the difference between 'news' facts and real ones, but I digress...)

Quote:Putting it out there now:

Clowney.

2nd this. There is no way he isn't overrated at this point. Unless he is the best DE ever, he won't live up to the hype at this point.

Quote:Johnny Manziel is uncomfortable in the pocket, which is a big problem for NFL quarterbacks. He was so good in college because he could make one read in the spread. I know that does not work in the NFL. He is not a shorter version of Cam Newton.

Uncomfortable in the pocket???????????? I think I can prove you wrong with one gif.



Also i remember during the Alabama game where he stayed in the pocket for a good 5 seconds, kept his feet moving, stepped up in the pocket and threw a TD.