I was thinking this last night while watching the most one sided Superbowl in recent memory.What effect, if any, do you think the Seattle win will have on the draft? Will teams try and copy the Seattle blueprint and so the defensive players and mobile quarterbacks becoming more sought after?
With Clowney, Barr, Mack and Manziel all being preliminarily drafted high anyway the one sided nature of the Superbowl might push those players up higher.
As is often said, defence wins championships (which is one of the reasons the Patriots have come up short the last few years even with Brady dragging them to the Championship games and Superbowl) and in the last few years the side with the better defence seems to have won the Superbowl. Seattle, Carolina and San Fran all performing well in the playoffs (interestingly the NFC had 4 of the top 5 defensive teams). Has this changed the way you think we should be rebuilding? Should we focus primarily on defence and make do with a game manager QB until we get the defence sorted?
Has your opinion of the evolution of the QB position changed with the success of Wilson, Kaepernick and Newton. Are you more open to taking a risk on Manziel due to this who had better college figures than those 3. Personally for me, I would gamble on Manziel if Clowney is gone and trade up to get Ford in the late first. Bridgewater is a good talent, there is no doubt, and is the safest QB option in the draft. How high is his ceiling though, and is the mobile quarterback the new direction the league is heading in, or just a fad. Be interesting to know people's opinions
I was thinking this last night while watching the most one sided Superbowl in recent memory.What effect, if any, do you think the Seattle win will have on the draft? Will teams try and copy the Seattle blueprint and so the defensive players and mobile quarterbacks becoming more sought after?
With Clowney, Barr, Mack and Manziel all being preliminarily drafted high anyway the one sided nature of the Superbowl might push those players up higher.
As is often said, defence wins championships (which is one of the reasons the Patriots have come up short the last few years even with Brady dragging them to the Championship games and Superbowl) and in the last few years the side with the better defence seems to have won the Superbowl. Seattle, Carolina and San Fran all performing well in the playoffs (interestingly the NFC had 4 of the top 5 defensive teams). Has this changed the way you think we should be rebuilding? Should we focus primarily on defence and make do with a game manager QB until we get the defence sorted?
Has your opinion of the evolution of the QB position changed with the success of Wilson, Kaepernick and Newton. Are you more open to taking a risk on Manziel due to this who had better college figures than those 3. Personally for me, I would gamble on Manziel if Clowney is gone and trade up to get Ford in the late first. Bridgewater is a good talent, there is no doubt, and is the safest QB option in the draft. How high is his ceiling though, and is the mobile quarterback the new direction the league is heading in, or just a fad. Be interesting to know people's opinions
I'm not sure there's still a massive argument about having a mobile QB. If you took manning or Brady and put them on Seattle's team last night they would have put up 500 points with the way Denver's defense didn't show up. further more Wilson didn't play great, but he did keep the pressure up. Overallt he defense had that game won by half time and they never let up. But fundamentally I don't think offensive minded coaches are going to change their strategies. Also most of the NFC prides itself on having a great defense in recent years where as the AFC tends to pride itself on highpowered offenses.
I think it will... most notably in the popularity of the bigger CB and revisiting the in the box safety.
Quote:I think it will... most notably in the popularity of the bigger CB and revisiting the in the box safety.
I could see this. This is what I get for only reading half the post. When I said no, I was referring to the QBs.
But I can see teams switching to this hybrid type defense soon.
Kinda. I'd almost rather focus on the defense this draft then anything else now.
Quote:I could see this. This is what I get for only reading half the post. When I said no, I was referring to the QBs.
But I can see teams switching to this hybrid type defense soon.
If so this leaves talented players that fit other defensive styles. It will be very difficult to replicate Seattle's defense and LOB may go down as one of the greatest in history
Quote:I think it will... most notably in the popularity of the bigger CB and revisiting the in the box safety.
I agree. I definitely think it has some affect. After all this is a copy cat league and as over used as that phrase is, it definitely rings true.
If anything, last night taught us that Super Bowl MVP's can be found in the 7th round of the draft if you have a great GM.
Wilson played great, it just all goes back to the saying "Offense sells tickets, Defense wins championships." The blueprint seems to build a defense first while quietly assembling a balanced, conservative offense. Manning saw what like two mins of action the first quarter? Also, we can win with a QB not taken in the first round
I think the Ozone said it best a good QB puts u in the post season every year with a chance to win, but in a one game situation a great defense wins, so we still need a great QB, with a great defense
I am leaning more and more away from the "Just get a Quarterback" camp. To me, it seems like the consistently successful teams build their rosters as strong as they can get them - with an eye towards needs of course - and if a QB falls in their lap, then so be it. Let's put as many talented players who have the desire to compete on the field as we can. You may not win every time, but you'll be in the race most of the time.
I posted this in the other thread you started, but I like to read what I write so I'll put it here as well.
I am leaning more and more away from the "Just get a Quarterback" camp. To me, it seems like the consistently successful teams build their rosters as strong as they can get them - with an eye towards needs of course - and if a QB falls in their lap, then so be it. Let's put as many talented players who have the desire to compete on the field as we can. You may not win every time, but you'll be in the race most of the time.
Umm...We need big cbs????
All it really shows is that hitting in the late rounds can help you build a team faster.
Quote:All it really shows is that hitting in the late rounds can help you build a team faster.
Thank you
For reactionary folks here, see above post
There are a lot of ways to skin a cat as they say. With every new Super Bowl champion, a new fad for the blueprint on how to design a team gets developed. I'm sure big corners will now be the new one.
I dont think this changes the fact that we need a QB. And that the best way to be consistently good is with a great QB. Does anyone think the Broncos get to the Super Bowl w/o Manning? Great QBs can mask a lot of flaws. Remove the QBs from both teams and Seattle's roster becomes infinitely better. And as someone above pointed out, Seattle has hit on a ton of late round picks. Sherman was a 5th rounder. Chancellor was like a 3rd or 4th rounder. The MVP last night was a late rounder. I think the guy who led them in sacks this year was an undrafted free agent. Hitting on late picks is part an eye for talent but is also a lot of luck.
You could argue finding a great QB is part luck as well, but its much easier to be lucky once than lucky enough times to construct a whole team. We still need a QB. And we need to look early and often in the draft.
I think it showed how great an eye for talent Carrol has. Watching the college game for so long helped him hit on a ton of late bloomers later in the draft.
Quote:I think it showed how great an eye for talent Carrol has. Watching the college game for so long helped him hit on a ton of late bloomers later in the draft.
Proves you need a great talent evaluator