Quote:Glad for him.
I'm not. That punk set our team back 4-5 years.
Quote:I'm not. That punk set our team back 4-5 years.
He didn't choose to suck or to be drafted by the Jaguars. No fault on his part. I imagine Gabbert wishes he was better.
Decent gig to have behind Palmer for about a year or two. He'll more than likely see some playing time given Palmer's injury history and old age. Bruce Arians is a solid QB coach.
He just understands the position a little bit better than most coaches do in the NFL. An Andy Reid type kind of guy if you will. This is a good chance for Gabbert to learn something.
Oddly enough. Gabbert is not the only former Jaguar in Arizona now that failed here. Leftwich will be his QB coach.
Quote:I'm not. That punk set our team back 4-5 years.
Gabbert was the first QB drafted by the Jaguars since Garrard was drafted to be a backup.
We were swinging for the fences with Gabbert, because we were foolish not to even look for a true franchise QB before then. We settled for what we had, until it was far too late to fix it.
Pretty sure Leftwich was drafted between Garrard and Gabbert.
Quote:Gabbert was the first QB drafted by the Jaguars since Garrard was drafted to be a backup.
We were swinging for the fences with Gabbert, because we were foolish not to even look for a true franchise QB before then. We settled for what we had, until it was far too late to fix it.
Quote:Pretty sure Leftwich was drafted between Garrard and Gabbert.
I hope you get the drift.
Leftwich failed, and we settled on the backup instead of looking outside for a franchise QB.
8 far too long years between QB drafts, until Gabbert was finally brought in desperation to turn the franchise around.. A decade lost. *poof*
It's difficult to understand how those types of decisions are made. A perfect storm, I suppose.
A GM that saw himself in Leftwich and didn't want to bail on him, then a rookie HC who was desperate for stability at the expense of not improving the position. When Gabbert arrived, that marked the third time we hit the mat... and unfortunately for us, the TKO.
well if anyone can get something out of him it would be Bruce Arians.
Quote:I hope you get the drift.
Leftwich failed, and we settled on the backup instead of looking outside for a franchise QB.
8 far too long years between QB drafts, until Gabbert was finally brought in desperation to turn the franchise around.. A decade lost. *poof*
It's difficult to understand how those types of decisions are made. A perfect storm, I suppose.
A GM that saw himself in Leftwich and didn't want to bail on him, then a rookie HC who was desperate for stability at the expense of not improving the position. When Gabbert arrived, that marked the third time we hit the mat... and unfortunately for us, the TKO.
Yea not drafting a QB for 8 years in any round is the dumbest thing a NFL team can do, you should always draft QBs, you never know when you might hit
I agree with Arians being one of best at getting the most out of QBs, but I don't agree with the WR comment. Doesn't matter who your throwing to if it's from the fetal position all the time.
I can see Leftwich teaching Gabbert quite a few things. Leftwich was actually one of the smartest qbs to ever play in Jacksonville possessing incredible downfield vision and accuracy. Gabbert can't see downfield at all, and when he does go deep he almost always overthrows the ball. If Leftwich can help him at all there, it could go a long ways.
Quote:I'm not. That punk set our team back 4-5 years.
I'm sure he deliberately failed. Take it easy man. That "punk" has nothing to do with the Jags future now, let it go bud.
Quote:I can see Leftwich teaching Gabbert quite a few things. Leftwich was actually one of the smartest qbs to ever play in Jacksonville possessing incredible downfield vision and accuracy. Gabbert can't see downfield at all, and when he does go deep he almost always overthrows the ball. If Leftwich can help him at all there, it could go a long ways.
I hope he doesn't teach him to wear his hat improperly.
Quote:I'm sure he deliberately failed. Take it easy man. That "punk" has nothing to do with the Jags future now, let it go bud.
Deliberate or not that punk set us back because of his fear of impact. Do not worry about me "bud" . I am easy peasy thank you very much.
Quote:I can see Leftwich teaching Gabbert quite a few things. Leftwich was actually one of the smartest qbs to ever play in Jacksonville possessing incredible downfield vision and accuracy. Gabbert can't see downfield at all, and when he does go deep he almost always overthrows the ball. If Leftwich can help him at all there, it could go a long ways.
How was he one of the smartest?
It should be noted, he had the longest windup in Jags history too.....wait 2nd longest.
Quote:How was he one of the smartest?
It should be noted, he had the longest windup in Jags history too.....wait 2nd longest.
2nd longest? Nah, it was by far the longest... it was so long that Byron had to see the field and make a decision early so that the ball would still come out quickly enough. Byron had incredible deep vision able to see exactly what was going on and who was breaking free the deepest. He'd always take the deepest open shot, and you'd practically never see him make a stupid throw. You'd also rarely ever see him throw out of bounds as he felt it better to throw to a spot on the field where there's no chance a DB could touch it but maybe a Jaguars receiver could get there. Sure he had INTs, but they were not of the bone-head variety. Typically a Leftwich INT entailed an incredibly athletic play or else it might have been a ball placement issue where say he was targeting the receiver's chest but should have thrown it over the WRs shoulder.
Gabbert was a case of Gene Smith thinking he was the smartest guy in the NFL and fallingin love with a guy. Gabbert never resembled a NFL QB to me in college and he just didn't have it in him to step up and make the throws in the face of the pass rush. I hope he has a long career as a backup but it would be painful to see him succeed after foundering here for years
Quote:Gabbert was a case of Gene Smith thinking he was the smartest guy in the NFL and fallingin love with a guy. Gabbert never resembled a NFL QB to me in college and he just didn't have it in him to step up and make the throws in the face of the pass rush. I hope he has a long career as a backup but it would be painful to see him succeed after foundering here for years
He had the nfl measurables but lacked the nfl accuracy or toughness required to do something other than fall in the fetal position when things got tough.
Quote:How was he one of the smartest?
It should be noted, he had the longest windup in Jags history too.....wait 2nd longest.
Based on everyone who talked to him.
He likely had the highest football IQ of any QB we've had here, even Brunell.
Vic would marvel about how he would break down specific plays in such granular detail after a game before anyone else had a chance to watch the film. When colleagues did go back to tape to break it down to see what he was talking about, he was never wrong. I assume here he was talking about Lageman and the other media Vic shared the conversations with, who did the show together with Vic.