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Quote:Robert Mathis? 4-3 his while career and his 2nd season in the 3-4 had his best season ever at 32.

 

Robert Mathis is like 250. Smaller, quicker. 

Am I the only one that thinks Clowney could play with his hand in the ground in a 3-4? He's 6'6, 275 pounds.


If Texans draft him, I can see O'Brien throwing him opposite of Watt and just have him play RDE.

Per rotoworld:

Quote:Scout: DE Jadeveon Clowney can fit 4-3 or 3-4


One NFL scout told NFL.com's Chase Goodbread that South Carolina junior DE Jadeveon Clowney can fit a 3-4 or 4-3 scheme at the next level.The evaluator noted "that because Clowney's frame is so lean at 6-6, 275 pounds, he could project easily in a 3-4 or a 4-3 NFL scheme," Goodbread said. "As a rush linebacker in a 3-4, he is physically NFL-ready. Or, he could easily add the weight necessary to handle a 4-3 end spot." Let's be real, any defense could use Clowney's talent. Not every three man or four man front is the same, but it is noteworthy that certain teams likely won't devalue Clowney based on scheme.


Source: NFL.com

Quote:Am I the only one that thinks Clowney could play with his hand in the ground in a 3-4? He's 6'6, 275 pounds.


If Texans draft him, I can see O'Brien throwing him opposite of Watt and just have him play RDE.

He could do that too. I think some are forgetting how much of a freak Clowney is. He is quicker, faster, and stronger than any DE/OLB at his size. Line him wherever and he will be good.

TMDs opinions are misguided

Clowney can play DE in the Texans/Patriots type 3-4 its not the same as the Steelers and other 3-4's, the 3-4 they run is one big DE and one pass rusher at DE, Antonio Smith was the other DE with Watt, and Smith is a pass rusher not a Big run stuff hold the line type DE, same with Chandler Jones for the Pats. So Clowney wont have to be a OLB in that system, which means the Texans can take him.

If they trade for Mallet, then I don't see what other option they have.

Quote:If they trade for Mallet, then I don't see what other option they have.

could trade down with someone 

Quote:Theres zero chance of it happening. 

 

Clowney is a 4-3 DE. He's not a 3-4 OLB. The Texans let Mario Williams leave because he was more of a 4-3 DE than a 3-4 OLB, so I don't see how a Clowney pick by them happens. 

 

They could trade the pick, and someone else takes Clowney, but I don't see them selecting Clowney at 1. 

 

I wouldn't say zero chance. I think the owner coming out and saying those things about him was a giant smokescreen to get someone to trade up. However, I do believe the Texans will see the light and draft Clowney if there are no suitors that trade up for the no.1 pick. Scheme wouldn't matter in regards to Clowney. 

Clowney has the talent and physical ability to fit in a 3-4 or 4-3.  You don't not draft him simply because you play a certain style of defense.  If he can prove he has the motor needed at the next level he's far and away the best pick of the draft.  It's not even close in my opinion.  Interviews with him will be important.

Quote:If they trade for Mallet, then I don't see what other option they have.

 

They could trade down with another team and get Barr, a much better fit at OLB for a 3-4

Quote:They could trade down with another team and get Barr, a much better fit at OLB for a 3-4

I would predict that Clowney beats Barr in every speed/agility based drill at the combine. 

People such as the OP LOL'd at me a few weeks ago when I stated that Houston would not take Bridgewater with the first pick.


This was back when the Bridgewater koolaid was at its deepest, thickest, most potent formulation.


I'm getting the sense that many of the gigglers are starting to realize that I was right and Bridgewater ain't going first.


Houston is 100x more likely to take Clowney over Teddy.

Quote:People such as the OP LOL'd at me a few weeks ago when I stated that Houston would not take Bridgewater with the first pick.


This was back when the Bridgewater koolaid was at its deepest, thickest, most potent formulation.


I'm getting the sense that many of the gigglers are starting to realize that I was right and Bridgewater ain't going first.


Houston is 100x more likely to take Clowney over Teddy.

The red flag being that the team holding the first overall pick in the draft, with plenty of talent but a dire need for a QB doesn't seem too intrigued with "The best QB in the draft".

Quote:The red flag being that the team holding the first overall pick in the draft, with plenty of talent but a dire need for a QB doesn't seem too intrigued with "The best QB in the draft".

"Elite prospect"

Quote:"Elite prospect"

"The best QB prospect since Luck"

Quote:"The best QB prospect since Luck"

"GOAT"

Clowney has the physical ability to be a first pick of the draft, however he has to many issues if you ask me. Unless your willing to offer him a one year contract each year I don't expect to see huge production from him in non-contract years.

Quote:Theres zero chance of it happening. 

 

Clowney is a 4-3 DE. He's not a 3-4 OLB. The Texans let Mario Williams leave because he was more of a 4-3 DE than a 3-4 OLB

 

 

Let's be clear - the Texans would have been more than happy if Mario Williams was still there.  He isn't not because they became a 3-4 defense, but because he became a free agent and they didn't want to pay him that kind of money.  

 

Also, NOT getting a Clowney because you run a different scheme is the worst possible way of drafting.  Clowney is good enough to find a spot on any defense.  

 

Also, having Clowney might push them to change to a 4-3 in the future.  I believe you should accumulate the best possible players, and then find a scheme that maximizes their potential... not the other way around.

Quote:They could trade down with another team and get Barr, a much better fit at OLB for a 3-4

Who would anyone trade up with them? Why would anyone trade for the #1 pick if they know the team they're trading with won't take a QB?

 

They'd simply wait for pick #2.