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Quote:wasn't the point spread for the Broncos game largest ever?

 

Yeah, and didn't it prove to be a mistake??

 

As said, the Jags 2013 roster was never "NFL worst of all time" bad. 

Quote:The Raiders and Rams were the only teams that the Jaguars played in the first half of the season that they were competitive with going into halftime.

we were down 24-10 at halftime against the Rams, not what i would call competitive

 

and against the Raiders, we couldn't even score a TD against a bottom third defense

Quote:Yeah, and didn't it prove to be a mistake??

 

As said, the Jags 2013 roster was never "NFL worst of all time" bad. 

arguably the worst in the league now though, only other team close IMO is the Raiders

Quote:arguably the worst in the league now though, only other team close IMO is the Raiders

 

So, we regressed then? 

Quote:So, we regressed then? 

 

That surely puts the agenda in a delicious catch-22.

 

If we have, then Mularkey was better and Caldwell should have kept him.

 

If not...

 

Oh how the tale spins...

Quote:That surely puts the agenda in a delicious catch-22.

 

If we have, then Mularkey was better and Caldwell should have kept him.

 

If not...

 

Oh how the tale spins...

 

Yes, the owner of a 2-14 record and mediocre track record previous to that should have been kept, :wacko:

 

 

signed, 

 

crazy

 

 

 

Point is, the Jags roster heading into this past season was bottom 5. Not "worst in league" and definitely not "NFL all time worst". 

 

So if its now "arguably the worst in the league", then that indicates a regression. 

Quote:we were down 24-10 at halftime against the Rams, not what i would call competitive

 

and against the Raiders, we couldn't even score a TD against a bottom third defense

 

The Jaguars were actually leading at one point in the first half of the Rams game regardless of what the score was at halftime it was a game that still appeared competitive.

 

The Jaguars other games aside from the Rams and Raiders were clearly out of hand and the Jaguars were being toyed with by much better teams.

Quote:Stop this garbage.

 

The team did not play better out of the bye, they played a string of chumps.

 

When they came up against another good team at the end of the season (the colts) it looked like one of the games from the first eight. The Jaguars got their butts kicked.

 

Any improvement you think you saw was illusion.

 

 

Kind of like what you saw with Gabbs, eh?  You were his strongest supporter.  

 

What you and TMD don't seem to get is that there are years of damage Caldwell has to erase.  Damage that cannot be undone in a single offseason, or even two.  Gene Smith was below Matt Millen tier of a General Manager.  And he followed Shack Harris, who was not much better.  

 

Bradley was a first year head coach with not just a bottom 5 roster in the NFL, but the worst roster in the NFL.  And no, it's not Caldwell's fault that it's the worst.  You can't build a house on sand.

Quote:Kind of like what you saw with Gabbs, eh?  You were his strongest supporter.  

 

What you and TMD don't seem to get is that there are years of damage Caldwell has to erase.  Damage that cannot be undone in a single offseason, or even two.  Gene Smith was below Matt Millen tier of a General Manager.  And he followed Shack Harris, who was not much better.  

 

Bradley was a first year head coach with not just a bottom 5 roster in the NFL, but the worst roster in the NFL.  And no, it's not Caldwell's fault that it's the worst.  You can't build a house on sand.

 

Bradley isn't to blame for the situation, Bradley is to blame for not being great.

 

That's fine, every team can't have Jim Harbaugh or Bill Cowher, or Bill Parcells. However, it doesn't mean we should be delusional that Bradley is cut of a rare cloth. He appears to be another middle of the road coach, something the Jaguars have been suffering through since Coughlin's firing.

Quote:Bradley isn't to blame for the situation, Bradley is to blame for not being great.

 

That's fine, every team can't have Jim Harbaugh or Bill Cowher, or Bill Parcells. However, it doesn't mean we should be delusional that Bradley is cut of a rare cloth. He appears to be another middle of the road coach, something the Jaguars have been suffering through since Coughlin's firing.

 

Aptly put. 

Bill Parcells went 3-12 in his first year as a head coach.  He didn't beat a single team with a winning record.  That was a Giants team with Lawrence freaking Taylor on it.  The next year Phil Simms was drafted by the Giants.  


Parcells first year with the Patriots wasn't much better at 5-11.  

Quote:arguably the worst in the league now though, only other team close IMO is the Raiders

 

 

Quote:So, we regressed then? 

not what I said at all, don't know where you're getting that from

 

actually, the younger players played better as the season went on

Quote: something the Jaguars have been suffering through since Coughlin's firing.

Coughlin was a great coach, his teams always overachieve regardless of talent....oh wait

Quote:Coughlin was a great coach, his teams always overachieve regardless of talent....oh wait

 

That statement was true of his teams in Jacksonville. Even his 2 straight 6-10 teams finished with a positive point differential. 

Quote:That statement was true of his teams in Jacksonville. Even his 2 straight 6-10 teams finished with a positive point differential. 

right so all of the sudden he doesn't know how to coach anymore?

Quote:Bill Parcells went 3-12 in his first year as a head coach.  He didn't beat a single team with a winning record.  That was a Giants team with Lawrence freaking Taylor on it.  The next year Phil Simms was drafted by the Giants.  


Parcells first year with the Patriots wasn't much better at 5-11.  

wait a minute, you're not suggesting that we actually see what Bradley can do with a roster with talent on it are you?

Just curious why some people feel Bradley isn't an X and O guy.  Has there been substantial proof supporting the claim?  Is it because the team only won four games?

Quote:right so all of the sudden he doesn't know how to coach anymore?

 

He obviously still knows how to coach.....but lets face it....he's what 67? I'm sure his energy levels aren't the same as what they used to be. I'm of the opinion that Coughlin's head coaching days are winding down slowly. 

Quote:Just curious why some people feel Bradley isn't an X and O guy.  Has there been substantial proof supporting the claim?  Is it because the team only won four games?

of course not, just a gut feeling which is all some need

Quote:Just curious why some people feel Bradley isn't an X and O guy.  Has there been substantial proof supporting the claim?  Is it because the team only won four games?

 

Not so much the record for me - its more the point differential. 

 

Tom Coughlin had 2 straight 6-10 teams here in Jax, and he managed to coach every game so at least Jax was in most of them until the final gun. Those 2 Coughlin teams wound up with a positive point differential for the season. 

 

Bradley's teams don't seem to overachieve on either side of the ball. 

 

I don't see Bradley's teams attack specificly game planned weaknesses on a week to week basis like Belichick teams seem to do, Bradley's teams seem to have the same sort of game plan every week with little variability.