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Quote:All a part of the grand scheme to ensure the Jags suck

 

Sure seems that way. 

 

Wait till next year if the Titans bottom out and get Winston....

Quote:TMD has no faith in our team.

 

 

LOL, given the last 14 years, why should I - and better yet - why should YOU!?? Since Coughlin, what the hell have they done to earn respect/ benefit of the doubt? I will be in total "show me" mode before any praise is given out to this team. I need to see some rock solid results/ decisions. 

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per rotoworld:

 

 

<div>FOX Sports' Alex Marvez reports the Texans will hire Romeo Crennel as defensive coordinator.
 
Marvez adds that new coach Bill O'Brien has decided to let all of the assistants from Gary Kubiak's staff out of their contracts, and that includes former defensive boss Wade Phillips. Crennel has been out of the league since "leading" the Chiefs to a 2-14 record in 2012. Long a two-gap 3-4 defensive coach, we hope Crennel doesn't turn J.J. Watt into a block-occupying defensive lineman, and rather allows Watt to continue to create havoc.
 
 
 
TMD take: Crennel as head coach sucks. Crennel as Defensive Coordinator - "only", is one of the best in the sport. 
 
O'Brien isn't messing around when he said that he planned to orchestrate a top notch coaching staff. 
 
O' Brien has been an NFL head coach for 2 days and already you can tell that he gets it. He understands whats important and what wins in the NFL. Bad for us. 
 

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not tremendously worried about it, wade is a terrible HC, but he is a very good DC and that didnt matter much this season. Obrien is overrated by you, crennell as well. and in reality the texans as a whole. i think foster is overrated, aj is getting up there in age, while still good, the weapons behind him arent great. and that defense was a huge disappointment....the biggest turn around will be there but the offense, will probably remain much of the same.

Quote:Sure seems that way. 

 

Wait till next year if the Titans bottom out and get Winston....

 

I hope you realize I was making a joke, because you have some of the dumbest theories and the fact that you made one of them your sig dropped your legitimacy as a poster, what little you had left, even further.

Quote:LOL, given the last 14 years, why should I - and better yet - why should YOU!?? Since Coughlin, what the hell have they done to earn respect/ benefit of the doubt?

 

I believe in what we're building now. I don't need anyone to tell me why I think our stock is on the rise. If you can't see it then you're clearly due for a visit to the eye doctor. Gus is going to be a great head coach for us. He took a gutted roster that lost 8 games straight and won us 4 games over the final stretch. Imagine what he could do with a roster with more talent and an actual QB? I also believe our GM hit on pretty much all of our picks and with 10 picks this year I'm stoked to see what he does with another year under his belt and fully viewing our roster in action. It's an exciting time to be a Jags fan.

(yawn)

Crennel hasn't coached a top 10 defense (yards or point) in 10 years.

 

But hey, I've heard of him.

 

Great hire.

Quote:not tremendously worried about it, wade is a terrible HC, but he is a very good DC and that didnt matter much this season. Obrien is overrated by you, crennell as well. and in reality the texans as a whole. i think foster is overrated, aj is getting up there in age, while still good, the weapons behind him arent great. and that defense was a huge disappointment....the biggest turn around will be there but the offense, will probably remain much of the same.

 

Foster isn't overrated, he's injury prone. AJ is getting up there in age, no doubt. The weapons behind him may not be that great, but the 1st overall pick, and 1st pick in subsequent rounds, will go a long way to fixing that. And thats not even considering the potential of another team trading the Texans an RG3 type trade package for their #1 overall selection. 

 

Quote:I believe in what we're building now. I don't need anyone to tell me why I think our stock is on the rise. If you can't see it then you're clearly due for a visit to the eye doctor. Gus is going to be a great head coach for us. He took a gutted roster that lost 8 games straight and won us 4 games over the final stretch. Imagine what he could do with a roster with more talent and an actual QB? I also believe our GM hit on pretty much all of our picks and with 10 picks this year I'm stoked to see what he does with another year under his belt and fully viewing our roster in action. It's an exciting time to be a Jags fan.

 

So the Jags being out-sucked by 4 other equally bad teams this year was impressive to you? Ok. That was perhaps one of the easiest 7 game stretches of schedule that you ever see in the NFL. I think Gus himself is a "decent" coach. He's a good motivator, but he handcuffed himself with the Coordinators and some of his assistant staff that were weak hires. It will likely come back to bite him in the end. As for the draft looking promising - I recall thinking the exact same thing at this point in time regarding Gene's 2009 draft as we headed into that next offseason. How'd that one ultimately work out. Moral of that story - don't label a draft a success too soon. 

Quote: Moral of that story - don't label a draft a success too soon. 

 

Yet you label everything other teams are doing except us as a success?

 


 

Quote:Crennel hasn't coached a top 10 defense (yards or point) in 10 years.

 

But hey, I've heard of him.

 

Great hire.

 

Part of that reason is because he had 6+ years of head coaching stints over that time. 

 

But don't let facts interrupt your agenda. 

 

Crennel as strictly a DC has been very good. Much better than ANY DC season Babich has ever overseen in the NFL. Babich was horrible in that role with the Chicago Bears. The BEARS! - who had decent defensive personnel....and now he's continued that sucktitude here. 

Quote:Yet you label everything other teams are doing except us as a success?

 

 

When you hire quality, you earn credit.

 

The Texans went out and hired arguably or maybe undeniably the best coaching candidate available this offseason. Now they just went out and gave that same guy the best available Def Coordinator candidate available. Even if Frazier was still out there, I'd rate Crennel a little bit better as a DC than Frazier, and Frazier is good in that role, himself. 

 

The Jags aren't being "slighted" here. Another team is being given credit for going out and getting the best available. 

Quote:Part of that reason is because he had 6+ years of head coaching stints over that time. 

 

But don't let facts interrupt your agenda. 

 

Crennel as strictly a DC has been very good. Much better than ANY DC season Babich has ever overseen in the NFL. Babich was horrible in that role with the Chicago Bears. The BEARS! - who had decent defensive personnel....and now he's continued that sucktitude here. 

 

Facts? I gave you one and you gloss over it. He hasn't coached a top 10 defense in 10 years.

 

In his time as head coach (CLE/KC) and defensive coordinator (KC), his teams are consistently amongst the worst run defenses in the NFL.

 

Since he left New England, he has only once coached a rushing defense ranked better than 26th.

 

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/co...renRo0.htm

Quote:Babich was horrible in that role with the Chicago Bears. The BEARS! - who had decent defensive personnel....and now he's continued that sucktitude here. 

 

You do realize Babich was the DC there for like 2 years? One of those years he was also the LB coach too. Yet Romeo Crennel can fail with a team loaded with pro-bowlers and he's God Jr? There's an agenda here alright. But it's yours.

 


 

Quote:Facts? I gave you one and you gloss over it. He hasn't coached a top 10 defense in 10 years.

 

In his time as head coach (CLE/KC) and defensive coordinator (KC), his teams are consistently amongst the worst run defenses in the NFL.

 

Since he left New England, he has only once coached a rushing defense ranked better than 26th.

 

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/co...renRo0.htm

 

Having dual-roles of HC + OC/ DC hurts the performance of both roles. Theres been plenty of examples of this over the years. Its too much for one person to do each job at a top flight level. One or both area ultimately will suffer. 

 

Crennel will be DC only in Houston. Crennel as a DC only is very good. 

Quote:You do realize Babich was the DC there for like 2 years? One of those years he was also the LB coach too. Yet Romeo Crennel can fail with a team loaded with pro-bowlers and he's God Jr? There's an agenda here alright. But it's yours.

 

 

WHere did Crennel fail as DC only recently??

Quote:WHere did Crennel fail as DC only recently??

 

Where did I say as a DC? His roster was loaded on both ends of the spectrum and he failed to make anything of it. Hell, we had Chad Henne who is no better than Cassel and we still won the same amount of games.

Probably a solid hire, but it is not like Wade Phillips was chopped liver. I do not really see what Crennel could do with that defense that Phillips already was doing.

 

Btw, Does he run a 3-4?

Quote:Where did I say as a DC? His roster was loaded on both ends of the spectrum and he failed to make anything of it. Hell, we had Chad Henne who is no better than Cassel and we still won the same amount of games.

 

Uhm.....thats Crennel's job in Houston. Thats what I am comparing. 

 

No one said that Crennel was a great head coach...as a matter of fact I have already said as a head coach Crennel is terrible. He's not having dual roles in Houston. The last time Crennel was DC only he presided over a very good defense that was part of 3 SB winning teams. 

Quote:Probably a solid hire, but it is not like Wade Phillips was chopped liver. I do not really see what Crennel could do with that defense that Phillips already was doing.

 

Btw, Does he run a 3-4?

 

Phillips was a good DC too, but O Brien wanted his own people. I like a coach that isn't afraid to get rid of quality to find even better quality at the same position. Phillips being there during the 2-14 season probably factored in as well. They both run 3-4. 

Quote: He's not having dual roles in Houston. The last time Crennel was DC only
he presided over a very good defense that was part of 3 SB winning teams. 

 

Yet Babich is terrible after one year as just being the DC with the Bears. K.