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Should be comical when Bronson Hill gets the nod over Grant on Sunday. 

Quote:I miss having a good RB(s) 

 

 

This is going to be a great RB class in the 2017 draft. If we don't come out of it with a franchise RB, I'm just giving up. 

Quote:This is going to be a great RB class in the 2017 draft. If we don't come out of it with a franchise RB, I'm just giving up. 

 

Personally, I'm not expecting us to draft an RB.  Especially not early.  I just don't see it as the glaring weakness that others do.

 

Ivory is a good back.  Good enough to lead the AFC last year. 

 

We have glaring issues with Run Blocking, and RT and LG are a big part of that.  Our RBs rarely have a hole to run through.  When they HAVE been there, Ivory has shown explosiveness. 

 

Zeke would look pedestrian in our offense right now.  Combined with sub-par run blocking, opposing defenses are not afraid of getting beat deep allowing them to sit on short routes, and thus, be in the box ready to stuff run plays.  We're just not executing in a way that would allow ANY RB to look good right now.

 

I fully expect our first 2-3 rounds to be OL and Defense.  OL due to sheer need, and Defense because you can never have enough quality D-Linemen and DBs.  Linebacker I fully believe we are fine.  Myles Jack is already struggling to find the field.

Quote:Personally, I'm not expecting us to draft an RB.  Especially not early.  I just don't see it as the glaring weakness that others do.

 

Ivory is a good back.  Good enough to lead the AFC last year. 

 

We have glaring issues with Run Blocking, and RT and LG are a big part of that.  Our RBs rarely have a hole to run through.  When they HAVE been there, Ivory has shown explosiveness. 

 

Zeke would look pedestrian in our offense right now.  Combined with sub-par run blocking, opposing defenses are not afraid of getting beat deep allowing them to sit on short routes, and thus, be in the box ready to stuff run plays.  We're just not executing in a way that would allow ANY RB to look good right now.

 

I fully expect our first 2-3 rounds to be OL and Defense.  OL due to sheer need, and Defense because you can never have enough quality D-Linemen and DBs.  Linebacker I fully believe we are fine.  Myles Jack is already struggling to find the field.

 

 

Is it just the run blocking? Remember, Ivory had a "mystery illness" at the beginning of the year. I don't know, but to me, he doesn't look like the same guy I saw with the Jets last year. He looks slower getting off the line, (he was never really fast to begin with) and his field vision seems not as sharp as it was. I watch him run now and he just looks like "a guy". I was excited when we brought him in, but the version we got looks like a shell of his former self. He's not the "run you over" type physical player he was in New York. He gets caught really easy and he goes down on first contact way too much. RB is a tricky position. You can only live off name recognition for so long. One season you can be really good and the next season your career can hit a wall. It's the nature of the position. To me, Ivory looks like he has hit that wall and it's time to move on. He was never really an every down back to begin and pairing him with the failure that is T.J. Yeldon, has been a disaster. It's time to move on and find our Ezekiel Elliott or DeMarco Murray type RB.

TJ Yeldon should probably be our #3 back next season.

Quote:Is it just the run blocking? Remember, Ivory had a "mystery illness" at the beginning of the year. I don't know, but to me, he doesn't look like the same guy I saw with the Jets last year. He looks slower getting off the line, (he was never really fast to begin with) and his field vision seems not as sharp as it was. I watch him run now and he just looks like "a guy". I was excited when we brought him in, but the version we got looks like a shell of his former self. He's not the "run you over" type physical player he was in New York. He gets caught really easy and he goes down on first contact way too much. RB is a tricky position. You can only live off name recognition for so long. One season you can be really good and the next season your career can hit a wall. It's the nature of the position. To me, Ivory looks like he has hit that wall and it's time to move on. He was never really an every down back to begin and pairing him with the failure that is T.J. Yeldon, has been a disaster. It's time to move on and find our Ezekiel Elliott or DeMarco Murray type RB.

 

 

He's had a handful of plays this year where he's got a bit of space and he's had that explosiveness, and he's had a couple of really powerful runs.  Additionally, before the Hamstring injury, after the "mystery illness" he had some good runs as well. 

 

We signed him to a 5 year deal, that's really structured like a 2 year deal.  I don't think it's fair to give up on him QUITE yet being that he hasn't even shown a full season here, yet, and we know that NO ONE has had any luck running behind our line.  It's not even just that we have "bad backs"... you can see it clearly every week... guys getting hit either in the backfield, or having absolutely no where to go at the LoS.

 

Yeldon, I'm fine w/ moving on from.  We've seen him for most of 2 years now.  Nothing exciting going on there.  Ivory... we haven't even seen 10 games of him... saying "it's time to move on" feels premature to me.

Quote:...I watch him run now and he just looks like "a guy". I was excited when we brought him in, but the version we got looks like a shell of his former self. He's not the "run you over" type physical player he was in New York. He gets caught really easy and he goes down on first contact way too much. RB is a tricky position. 

He's not 100%.   He's under a reasonable contract.  He'll be back next year and if he's healthy he'll look better.  I'm confident you are writing him off very prematurely.  He's got a couple more good years in him if you ask me.