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I'd be good with drones delivering Amazons to my door.

Cool idea but I see quite a few issues with this.

 

1. Any area at least 5-10 miles radius of a military base or power plant or commercial airport would almost certainly be "out of bounds"  

2. I would guess that thunderstorms or just lightning in the area would stop drone deliveries until the weather improved. Sleet, snow and hail would also be tough on drone delivery I think.

3.What about people shooting them down. That would be an easy thing to do and never underestimate a redneck and his gun.

4. I'm sure the drone delivery system can be hacked and then directed to any location the hacker desires.

5. If a drone crashes into a person, serious injury or death and serious lawsuits.

6. If a drone crashes into traffic, say through a windshield, more heavy lawsuits.

 

Those are just a few off the top of my head.

 

BTW : I heard somewhere that MIT has been using drones to guide people around their campus with some success.

 

Quote:Cool idea but I see quite a few issues with this.

 

1. Any area at least 5-10 miles radius of a military base or power plant or commercial airport would almost certainly be "out of bounds"  

2. I would guess that thunderstorms or just lightning in the area would stop drone deliveries until the weather improved. Sleet, snow and hail would also be tough on drone delivery I think.

3.What about people shooting them down. That would be an easy thing to do and never underestimate a redneck and his gun.

4. I'm sure the drone delivery system can be hacked and then directed to any location the hacker desires.

5. If a drone crashes into a person, serious injury or death and serious lawsuits.

6. If a drone crashes into traffic, say through a windshield, more heavy lawsuits.

 

Those are just a few off the top of my head.

 

BTW : I heard somewhere that MIT has been using drones to guide people around their campus with some success.

1) Yes, that's entirely possible but most people probably live in acceptable delivery zones.

2) With delivery times of < 30 minutes weather shouldn't pose an issue beyond delays.

3) With a range of only 10 miles the vast majority of deliveries will be in urban environments which makes them harder to fire at than if they were flying over empty fields. This, combined with what I imagine would be extremely strict regulations regarding such things should limit the number of instances like the one you are describing.

4) Your Amazon account is hackable as is and they could edit the delivery address on there.

5) This is certainly a possibility, but arguments much like this could have been used against the introduction of motor vehicles that most people drive every day.

6) See #5.

 

It isn't flawless, but nothing truly is. I, personally, welcome the idea. This announcement is one of the few that give me the "living in the future" feeling. It's an exciting possibility.

I like the idea of REALLY getting my pizza in 30mins with a drone

Quote:I like the idea of REALLY getting my pizza in 30mins with a drone

It'd be cheaper too! You also wouldn't have to tip.

Hate the idea. Too much potential job losses.

 

edit: just in case

Quote:Hate the idea. Too much potential job losses in an economy that hasn't really recovered from the last round of them. 

Except that it'd push Amazon to open even more fulfillment centers in even more places (I know of two that are being built relatively close to me) meaning that while they would be employing less drivers, they could be employing more people.

Quote:Except that it'd push Amazon to open even more fulfillment centers in even more places (I know of two that are being built relatively close to me) meaning that while they would be employing less drivers, they could be employing more people.

 

Yeah, but those jobs in those fulfillment centers are likely to be significantly less salary than the drivers. 

 

Overall, a loss for the worker. 

Quote:Yeah, but those jobs in those fulfillment centers are likely to be significantly less salary than the drivers. 

 

Overall, a loss for the worker. 

Fair enough. It's definitely a complicated issue. One that I'll willingly admit I'm not exactly qualified to speak on. I suppose it depends on how you look at it. More people working (semi-regardless of salary) could be better for the country, while the loss of drivers positions would certainly hurt the drivers at the very least.


The only thing I can say definitively is this: Economies are fairly fluid, and if drones take off there will have to be an adaptation of the work force. We survived the industrial revolution, we survived the introduction of vehicles, we've survived the introduction of automated mass production (for the most part, at least). I'd say that we'll likely survive the introduction of drones.

Quote:I like the idea of REALLY getting my pizza in 30mins with a drone

 

Thats all I really care about.  

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The only thing I can say definitively is this: Economies are fairly fluid, and if drones take off there will have to be an adaptation of the work force. We survived the industrial revolution, we survived the introduction of vehicles, we've survived the introduction of automated mass production (for the most part, at least). I'd say that we'll likely survive the introduction of drones.

 

Well, the industrial revolution created a heckuva lot of jobs both low and high paying. 

 

Same can be said with the introduction to vehicles as well. Automated mass production has hurt the job market. I think the drone thing would be an overall hurt for the job market as well. 

Quote:Well, the industrial revolution created a heckuva lot of jobs both low and high paying. 

 

Same can be said with the introduction to vehicles as well. Automated mass production has hurt the job market. I think the drone thing would be an overall hurt for the job market as well. 

I just meant that we survived. We're an adaptable species. We'll survive changes in the economy.

Quote:Well, the industrial revolution created a heckuva lot of jobs both low and high paying. 

 

Same can be said with the introduction to vehicles as well. Automated mass production has hurt the job market. I think the drone thing would be an overall hurt for the job market as well.

I don't know how many jobs it would take away, but it will also create other jobs. If they are looking at 30 min delivery they will be a ton of those little guys. How many orders do they receive every minute? Their would have to be so many drones to keep up with that quick of a delivery. Drones need to be made by some one, they would need maintenance and repair, they will have to be guided by someone unless programmed which will still need people to handle that. So, it may not be that bad.


However, if they do eliminate many jobs it may not be good for the economy but, woldnt you do the same if it was your business? Why hire some one when you can have a robot or drone do it and save the company money? That's the overall goal of a business, to make money. So I can't say I blame them.

Quote:Yeah, but those jobs in those fulfillment centers are likely to be significantly less salary than the drivers. 

 

Overall, a loss for the worker. 

 

Do you realize how low a paying job the pizza deliver driver is? Remedial jobs are not reason to sacrifice technological advances. Now I can understand people objecting for privacy concerns, IE are these drones going to require a camera system effectively working as a mobile surveillance camera system? but not the loss of minimum wage jobs, that's crazy, heck the industry of manufacturing, repairing, and selling the drones would out benefit the economy over any remedial job like delivering pizzas.

Quote:Do you realize how low a paying job the pizza deliver driver is? Remedial jobs are not reason to sacrifice technological advances. Now I can understand people objecting for privacy concerns, IE are these drones going to require a camera system effectively working as a mobile surveillance camera system? but not the loss of minimum wage jobs, that's crazy, heck the industry of manufacturing, repairing, and selling the drones would out benefit the economy over any remedial job like delivering pizzas.

 

With enough drones in use we could have Wi-Fi everywhere. That would be awesome. Technological advances are what separates humans from everything else. It is rarely, imo, okay to stifle technology and science.


Also, in my experience (which admittedly is not worth much, being that it's anecdotal) the people that complain about government spying are the same people who willingly post where/what they are going to eat each night and have a cell phone glued to their person at all times with the GPS on. Ironic, is it not?


I'm not saying that privacy isn't important, just that if you're going to complain about them don't post your location on the Internet every 5 minutes!

Quote:Do you realize how low a paying job the pizza deliver driver is? Remedial jobs are not reason to sacrifice technological advances. Now I can understand people objecting for privacy concerns, IE are these drones going to require a camera system effectively working as a mobile surveillance camera system? but not the loss of minimum wage jobs, that's crazy, heck the industry of manufacturing, repairing, and selling the drones would out benefit the economy over any remedial job like delivering pizzas.

 

I was referring to the UPS & FedEx drivers, not the pizza delivery guy

Quote:Do you realize how low a paying job the pizza deliver driver is? Remedial jobs are not reason to sacrifice technological advances. Now I can understand people objecting for privacy concerns, IE are these drones going to require a camera system effectively working as a mobile surveillance camera system? but not the loss of minimum wage jobs, that's crazy, heck the industry of manufacturing, repairing, and selling the drones would out benefit the economy over any remedial job like delivering pizzas.

 

I dont know about pizza but I know UPS drivers and such make well more than minimum wage.  I doubt the drones would be built here anyways, especially when they could just churn them out in some Chinese slave factory.  Repairing these light weight devices probably wouldn't require much as the repair and maintenance used on the ups/fedex trucks.  The only jobs I could see being added are maybe pilots, but with gps I'm sure most of that could be automated with a few overseers that can override the device if need be, and maybe more shipping center employees.  

Quote:With enough drones in use we could have Wi-Fi everywhere. That would be awesome. Technological advances are what separates humans from everything else. It is rarely, imo, okay to stifle technology and science.


Also, in my experience (which admittedly is not worth much, being that it's anecdotal) the people that complain about government spying are the same people who willingly post where/what they are going to eat each night and have a cell phone glued to their person at all times with the GPS on. Ironic, is it not?


I'm not saying that privacy isn't important, just that if you're going to complain about them don't post your location on the Internet every 5 minutes!

 

I hear you on people and complaining while doing the opposite. In today's modern age it's impossible to remain anonymous anyways, just a way of life.

 

Quote:I was referring to the UPS & FedEx drivers, not the pizza delivery guy

 

I don't see it putting drivers out of work, it's only items under 5lbs and within 10 miles of the distribution centers. Maybe one day they'd carry larger items a further distance but that's a long way off. heck who knows maybe one day they'll just beam stuff like in star trek

Quote:I dont know about pizza but I know UPS drivers and such make well more than minimum wage.  I doubt the drones would be built here anyways, especially when they could just churn them out in some Chinese slave factory.  Repairing these light weight devices probably wouldn't require much as the repair and maintenance used on the ups/fedex trucks.  The only jobs I could see being added are maybe pilots, but with gps I'm sure most of that could be automated with a few overseers that can override the device if need be, and maybe more shipping center employees.  

 

I didn't mean to imply UPS or FedEx drivers, I know they make a very good wage.

Quote:I didn't mean to imply UPS or FedEx drivers, I know they make a very good wage.

 

All you care about is 30 mins or less, I'm with you on that , I hate it when the crust gets all soggy.