It's been about 7 years since I've built a new system for myself. I built a really nice one back then, but it's gotten buggy as of late. So, I took the plunge into a new system. Last parts will be here tomorrow. I am reusing my case and my optical drive. I bought a new case, but hate it. I also got a blue Ray burner, but want a cdrw drive too. The new stuff should be really cool though.
Starting with an Asus sabertooth fx990 v3 motherboard. Top notch mb.
Pairing that with an and fx8350 8 core, 4.0 processor. I am also diving into the liquid cooling thing. Had to mod my case today to fit it.
For ram, I am using 32 gigs of crucial performance 1600 speed.
To power it all, I am going with a thermaltake 800w power supply.
I am running the OS on a 500 gig ssd from Samsung. Storage will be on a standard 4 tb hard drive.
Because I am old school, I am running Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit. Don't like the new versions.
This thing should be lightning quick and hopefully hold up for years. Probably longer than me.
I am looking forward to playing with my new toy.
Anyone else do any building lately? If so, let's hear about it.
Noooooo, not an AMD 8-core! Dude! Zen! You're so, so close to Zen being released!
Building is a hobby and a habit for me. My main rig was the product of months of saving up, buying parts and assembling them, and I'm still not quite ready to call it finished. My second machine is finished, and it was the product of a trip to Micro Center that, in retrospect, I never should have gone on. Then we've got my wife's rig, a couple of HTPCs, a Shuttle barebones PC that I got for all of $25 (but makes a wonderful media server) and an Optiplex 955 that's used to play YouTube and Netflix in the exercise room.
Thank God I've been having great luck selling components on eBay and completed systems on Craigslist lately, because the Micro Center PC in particular went way north of the budget. My hobby actually almost pays for itself when I don't get carried away, and I think I'm reaching the end of the line in terms of things I can do and want to do with what I have. I'm lucky enough to have a thrift store nearby that sells old Core 2 systems on the cheap, and I might just go pick up a couple, drop a surplus graphics card into each and flip them for about $150 apiece.
Speaking of graphics cards, what's your system going to be packing?
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I buy my computers pre-built...when they quit working, I buy another one.
I used to dabble in this but don't any longer.
Buying something pre-built gets you a combination of software and hardware and their configuration that's passed QA testing.
Biggest thing I learned when I did build (other than don't do it again) is that I won't buy an AMD chip, and research the Intel I do buy. I run mine for years, so I look for something near or at the top end of performance that's reliable. That way, I can get away today with a simple memory upgrade and/or hdd repair/upgrade/expansion if necessary.
i usually buy them used since most of them already have free porn buried into the the cookies.
The 8350 is dated and runs a bit warm but performance to price is good. The six core 6300 variant might have been a better option since it has better single core performance. Then again I dont know your usage so you might need the 8 cores.
The asus sabertooth is rock solid and a good choice for this amd platform.
32 gigs of RAM is overkill unless youre doing some massive video editing. I would go with 16 gigs @ 1866.
Good size ssd and hdd. Dont put in the hdd until after you install windows on the ssd. Ive seen issues with windows properly recognizing the SSD and not setting up optimizations and such.
Speaking of windows, I think windows 10 is a pretty good OS after a clean install. As far as gaming goes, their are a couple features that help with performance (dx12).
I got my system back in 2011. Have been updating it slowly over the years. And I have a setup very similar to yours now. Great performance no complaints there. However the thing is a space heater. Even sitting idle it will warm up my ambient temp by about 2 degrees.
I build every machine that I own personally. The surprising thing is, that many of the machines on my home network are "old" castoffs that people gave me when they bought a new machine.
A few things that I must note though.
Other than my wife's computer and "half of my laptop", I don't use M$ Window$. I primarily run Linux on all of my computers.
The last machine that I actually built from scratch Probably 5 years ago or so features:
AMD FX-6100 Six-Core Processor running at 1400 Mhz.
32 GB of RAM
An NVIDIA video card (I don't recall the exact model) with 2GB of memory. It provides video to my two 24" monitors (DVI).
60 GB Solid State hard drive for the Operating System
1 TB hard drive for data
1 TB hard drive for holding virtual machines
Keep in mind, I'm not a "gamer". I primarily use this system to write and compile software as well as run CAD programs.
I have other machines that hold backups, serve as a media server, file server, run a CNC and and run a digital printer. The only machines that stay on 24/7 are my file server and media server. All of the others are only turned on when they are needed.
I also have a couple of laptops that only get used when I travel. I typically take them out monthly just to make sure that the batteries are charged up and the OS is up to date.
One thing that I find is that a lot of people end up buying "too much computer" for what they need. While yes, the technology is nice, the average actual user of a PC uses it primarily for email and web browsing. Many "older" computers will handle the task easily and can be had for very little money. I can't even count the number of PC's that I've given away that were discarded by people only to be used by others.
Nothing wrong with AMD if you're on a budget though I would look Intel if you're not. Depends on what you're doing really, if you're a light user (web browsing, streaming movies, office type programs) the 8350 is fine, might even be overkill and should last you long enough to not care about AM3+ being a dead socket.
I don't build as much as I continuously upgrade. I do need a new case though.
When I get back I plan on putting together a super rig, but right now I'm running almost identical specs as you, just swap the 32gb for 16gb RAM, and add a Radeon R9 290X in there and that's basically my rig right now.
I don't get the hate for AMD processors. I've been using them for years with no troubles. Honestly, in my experience Intel chips have been worse (plus they are way over-priced).
completely new to this stuff, but Ive been making an arcade with a raspberripi3. I'm Probably going to end up with a few more of these things for all sorts of random shenanigans.
Quote:One thing that I find is that a lot of people end up buying "too much computer" for what they need. While yes, the technology is nice, the average actual user of a PC uses it primarily for email and web browsing. Many "older" computers will handle the task easily and can be had for very little money. I can't even count the number of PC's that I've given away that were discarded by people only to be used by others.
I've done some highly anecdotal, entirely speculative "research" over the years, and arrived at the conclusion that the typical computer user needs nothing more than a low-end Pentium CPU for what they want to do with a PC.
Quote:I don't get the hate for AMD processors. I've been using them for years with no troubles. Honestly, in my experience Intel chips have been worse (plus they are way over-priced).
AMD's top-tier CPUs, particularly the FX chips, are based upon four-year-old platforms that are antiquated at this point. Compounding that is the fact that those CPUs are incredibly inefficient. The 8350, arguably AMD's best chip right now, burns through 125W at full load (if it's not overclocked). The 9590, which is the absolute high end of AMD's lineup...sort of...burns through motherboards. No, seriously, it's got a TDP of 250W, and using it with a motherboard not rated to take that much through the VRMs equals fire.
I do love their A-series APUs, and I think I might be the only person who feels that way. There is no better chip for an all-purpose laptop than an A10. Intel's got nothing that can match the integrated graphics on an A10 chip. Even as a lightweight home theater PC or extreme budget all-around PC, the A8 and A10 make a lot of sense.
Now, if AMD releases Zen and it proves to be as good as they say at the prices they're claiming, life gets interesting, and I start looking at the old salvaged Dell Optiplex handling HTPC duties in the bike room and considering replacing it.
Quote:I've done some highly anecdotal, entirely speculative "research" over the years, and arrived at the conclusion that the typical computer user needs nothing more than a low-end Pentium CPU for what they want to do with a PC.
Messing with the raspberripi has taught me you really don't need a whole lot of computer to do the basics. Couple gigs of ram, about 100 gig harddrive will do any job I need pretty easily.
Quote:completely new to this stuff, but Ive been making an arcade with a raspberripi3. I'm Probably going to end up with a few more of these things for all sorts of random shenanigans.
Quote:Messing with the raspberripi has taught me you really don't need a whole lot of computer to do the basics. Couple gigs of ram, about 100 gig harddrive will do any job I need pretty easily.
Raspberry Pi's are awesome little devices.
Quote:I build every machine that I own personally. The surprising thing is, that many of the machines on my home network are "old" castoffs that people gave me when they bought a new machine.
A few things that I must note though.
Other than my wife's computer and "half of my laptop", I don't use M$ Window$. I primarily run Linux on all of my computers.
The last machine that I actually built from scratch Probably 5 years ago or so features:
AMD FX-6100 Six-Core Processor running at 1400 Mhz.
32 GB of RAM
An NVIDIA video card (I don't recall the exact model) with 2GB of memory. It provides video to my two 24" monitors (DVI).
60 GB Solid State hard drive for the Operating System
1 TB hard drive for data
1 TB hard drive for holding virtual machines
Keep in mind, I'm not a "gamer". I primarily use this system to write and compile software as well as run CAD programs.
I have other machines that hold backups, serve as a media server, file server, run a CNC and and run a digital printer. The only machines that stay on 24/7 are my file server and media server. All of the others are only turned on when they are needed.
I also have a couple of laptops that only get used when I travel. I typically take them out monthly just to make sure that the batteries are charged up and the OS is up to date.
One thing that I find is that a lot of people end up buying "too much computer" for what they need. While yes, the technology is nice, the average actual user of a PC uses it primarily for email and web browsing. Many "older" computers will handle the task easily and can be had for very little money. I can't even count the number of PC's that I've given away that were discarded by people only to be used by others.
Quote:The 8350 is dated and runs a bit warm but performance to price is good. The six core 6300 variant might have been a better option since it has better single core performance. Then again I dont know your usage so you might need the 8 cores.
The asus sabertooth is rock solid and a good choice for this amd platform.
32 gigs of RAM is overkill unless youre doing some massive video editing. I would go with 16 gigs @ 1866.
Good size ssd and hdd. Dont put in the hdd until after you install windows on the ssd. Ive seen issues with windows properly recognizing the SSD and not setting up optimizations and such.
Speaking of windows, I think windows 10 is a pretty good OS after a clean install. As far as gaming goes, their are a couple features that help with performance (dx12).
I got my system back in 2011. Have been updating it slowly over the years. And I have a setup very similar to yours now. Great performance no complaints there. However the thing is a space heater. Even sitting idle it will warm up my ambient temp by about 2 degrees.
I'm liquid cooled, so zero issues there. Also, I do a lot of video work and tend to be impatient.
Quote:I build every machine that I own personally. The surprising thing is, that many of the machines on my home network are "old" castoffs that people gave me when they bought a new machine.
A few things that I must note though.
Other than my wife's computer and "half of my laptop", I don't use M$ Window$. I primarily run Linux on all of my computers.
The last machine that I actually built from scratch Probably 5 years ago or so features:
AMD FX-6100 Six-Core Processor running at 1400 Mhz.
32 GB of RAM
An NVIDIA video card (I don't recall the exact model) with 2GB of memory. It provides video to my two 24" monitors (DVI).
60 GB Solid State hard drive for the Operating System
1 TB hard drive for data
1 TB hard drive for holding virtual machines
Keep in mind, I'm not a "gamer". I primarily use this system to write and compile software as well as run CAD programs.
I have other machines that hold backups, serve as a media server, file server, run a CNC and and run a digital printer. The only machines that stay on 24/7 are my file server and media server. All of the others are only turned on when they are needed.
I also have a couple of laptops that only get used when I travel. I typically take them out monthly just to make sure that the batteries are charged up and the OS is up to date.
One thing that I find is that a lot of people end up buying "too much computer" for what they need. While yes, the technology is nice, the average actual user of a PC uses it primarily for email and web browsing. Many "older" computers will handle the task easily and can be had for very little money. I can't even count the number of PC's that I've given away that were discarded by people only to be used by others.
see above. I get impatient when working with and converting large files. I also tend to run a lot of programs in the background. It's not uncommon for me to have 5 or 6 programs running simultaneously. Now they hum right along.
Still using my build from 5 years ago, although I just upgraded my graphics card
i5 2500k @ 4.5ghz
8gb of ram
250gb ssd
amd rx 480 8gb
And a 144hz Acer monitor I bought a couple weeks ago