per rotoworld:
CBS Sports' Pete Prisco passes along word that Oregon redshirt sophomore QB Marcus Mariota's one concern is accuracy, according to "some scouts."
The box scores back this up, as he completed 44, 50, 57.1, and 59.3 percent of his throws in four games this season. The lowest of those games pitted Oregon against Cal in a torrential downpour. Mariota has completed a higher percentage of his passes against top competition, and his placement against Washington was excellent at every level of the field. We aren't worrying too much about these accuracy questions.
TMD: yeah, thats what you want out of a top QB prospect, concerns with accuracy.....
If accuracy is a major concern with any college QB, you shouldn't draft him. Gabbert had accuracy issues in college as well. But people ignored it and pretended as if it didn' exist. How'd that work out?
It's Teddy babay! Always has been and always will be.
I really can't stand you.
Accuracy and Pocket Presence is the two most important skill sets to have I'm my opinion.
David Caldwell still not answering your calls?
Nana boo boo...stick your head in doodoo!!!
My quarterback can beat up your quarterback.
More quality threads from you today.
Genuine question: How is Mariota's deep ball? I know that's typically thought of as the worst part of Teddy's game.
But, either way, I'd rather have the dude with great accuracy who can eat up consistently small to medium patches of field than the guy who can't do that but will connect on a few more long passes.
Quote:Genuine question: How is Mariota's deep ball? I know that's typically thought of as the worst part of Teddy's game.
But, either way, I'd rather have the dude with great accuracy who can eat up consistently small to medium patches of field than the guy who can't do that but will connect on a few more long passes.
Teddy is criticized for supposedly having bad long accuracy, but I really don't see it. His deeper throws look just as good as his shorter/ intermediate throws. Teddy throws a good ball to all parts of the field. I think with NFL quality receivers, which is what he'll have at the next level, more of his deeper throws will be completed.
Mariota is generally praised for having a good deep ball, but he really doesn't go deep all that much anyway. Its like saying Garrard had a good deep ball because of that one long bomb he hit John Broussard in stride that time...
Mariota has accuracy issues. Thats not going to "improve" the longer the pass attempt is.
the game against cal was in pouring rain, saw that game. lol mcshay has mariota above teddy.
Quote:the game against cal was in pouring rain, saw that game. lol mcshay has mariota above teddy.
That figures....McShay is generally a toolbox and his player evaluations are prerennially amongst the worst of the network "personnel guys"
Quote:Teddy is criticized for supposedly having bad long accuracy, but I really don't see it. His deeper throws look just as good as his shorter/ intermediate throws. Teddy throws a good ball to all parts of the field. I think with NFL quality receivers, which is what he'll have at the next level, more of his deeper throws will be completed.
Mariota is generally praised for having a good deep ball, but he really doesn't go deep all that much anyway. Its like saying Garrard had a good deep ball because of that one long bomb he hit John Broussard in stride that time...
Mariota has accuracy issues. Thats not going to "improve" the longer the pass attempt is.
Garrard could make all of the throws. His issues stemmed from the shoulders up.
PRISCO was extremely high on PONDER because of his accurancy ... just didn't realize he couldn't throw it further than 5 yards.
Quote:Accuracy and Pocket Presence is the two most important skill sets to have I'm my opinion.
Let's get Ponder. He fits your most important skillsets of a QB
Even with those four sub 0.60 games, his accuracy is >0.66 for his career and >0.62 for this season. While those numbers don't come close to Bridgewaters 0.72 for 2013, I don't think Mariota's accuracy in those four games is all that damning.
Mariota has been struggling with accuracy this year...while ALSO throwing more screen/swing passes than most QBs in college.
Quote:Even with those four sub 0.60 games, his accuracy is >0.66 for his career and >0.62 for this season. While those numbers don't come close to Bridgewaters 0.72 for 2013, I don't think Mariota's accuracy in those four games is all that damning.
Watch all of his cutups like I have. Watch the Colorado game where he throws multiple balls way too low and sailed a bunch of wide open passes.
I think most of his accuracy issues have been with his very quick release. He has trouble maintaining his release point because of how quickly he gets rid of the ball. He has had a bunch of screen passes this season where he just turns, fires, and throws it at the shoes.
Accuracy is important but it isn't end all be all especially when looking at just raw numbers and not factoring in style of offense or games played/started. Here's a nice read I came across about the importance of accuracy. Its definitely a decent read.
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nfcnorth&id=26151&src=desktop'>http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nfcnorth&id=26151&src=desktop</a>
Quote:Context is critical for evaluating college completion percentages. In his original paper, in fact, Lewin noted that Cutler's 57.2 college completion percentage was misleading given the long history of much lower rates on Vanderbilt's perennially undermanned teams in the decade before Cutler arrived.
The most accurate college quarterback on this list is Brian Brohm, who completed 65.8 percent at Louisville. We all know how that worked out for Brohm, who was stunningly inaccurate during his practice time with the Packers and hasn't been much better in several stints with the Buffalo Bills.
Another example of college completion rates not translating is Drew Stanton, who hit 64.1 percent of his throws at Michigan State but hasn't come anywhere close to that with the Detroit Lions. Overall, 12 of the quarterbacks currently have higher completion percentages in the NFL than they did in college. A total of 16 dropped and three have not yet thrown an NFL pass.
I realize there are huge discrepancies between the number of throws made by, say, Brad Johnson and Matt Flynn, but those are the raw numbers.
It's worth nothing that the NFC North's most accurate quarterback over this stretch, Aaron Rodgers, finished his college career at 63.8 percent......
....Brett Favre, who had a 52.4 completion percentage in his college career, is proof quarterbacks can become more accurate in the NFL.
Quote:Mariota has been struggling with accuracy this year...while ALSO throwing more screen/swing passes than most QBs in college.
Watch all of his cutups like I have. Watch the Colorado game where he throws multiple balls way too low and sailed a bunch of wide open passes.
I think most of his accuracy issues have been with his very quick release. He has trouble maintaining his release point because of how quickly he gets rid of the ball. He has had a bunch of screen passes this season where he just turns, fires, and throws it at the shoes.
Is it cool if I just watch the whole game to enjoy football being played?
Quote:Is it cool if I just watch the whole game to enjoy football being played?
Well there is an entire website dedicated to showing cutups. And it's much more difficult find whole games of every player in college.
And there is zero point in watching the entire game if you are just trying to evaluate a single QB.
Quote:Well there is an entire website dedicated to showing cutups. And it's much more difficult find whole games of every player in college.
And there is zero point in watching the entire game if you are just trying to evaluate a single QB.
Yeah but, here's my thing; I
like football. Hell, I like just watching football. So why don't I just go ahead and watch the whole thing? You know, kinda get the feel of the game and see how one play stacks on top of the one before. See the ebb and flow as the two teams try to match up with one another. I mean, that's still cool isn't it?
Quote:Yeah but, here's my thing; I like football. Hell, I like just watching football. So why don't I just go ahead and watch the whole thing? You know, kinda get the feel of the game and see how one play stacks on top of the one before. See the ebb and flow as the two teams try to match up with one another. I mean, that's still cool isn't it?
What is this...the 80's?? Why don't you do a Rubik's Cube and listen to Frankie Goes to Hollywood during the game too.