10-24-2013, 10:31 AM
10-24-2013, 10:42 AM
That pretty much tells the tale through the decade and why the Jags and losing are related with each other
10-24-2013, 12:32 PM
Has a team recently (ever?) had the #2 pick (while being tied for the worst record, no less) and then followed up with the #1 pick?
There are still many games to be played, and I'm not assuming the Jags will have the #1 pick (although it's looking pretty good at the moment), but I'm wondering if we're approaching historical levels?
There are still many games to be played, and I'm not assuming the Jags will have the #1 pick (although it's looking pretty good at the moment), but I'm wondering if we're approaching historical levels?
10-24-2013, 02:08 PM
Gotta love 2008!
diseased rhinoceros pizzle of shackless and jean smyth.
diseased rhinoceros pizzle of shackless and jean smyth.
10-24-2013, 02:52 PM
Quote:NFL Draft History By Team: Every Player RankedLooks like BAP to me, Go Gene SMyth! Bottom 5 all time! Woo Hoo!
NFL Draft History
10-24-2013, 03:00 PM
Interesting. Nice find.
10-24-2013, 04:03 PM
I've said it before. Over a ten year span (2003-13), I would challenge that no team in the history of the NFL has a worse track record of player acquisition than the Jaguars. Harris and Smith were the worst
10-24-2013, 10:42 PM
I want to let everybody know in advance, this is not a 2nd account for me. I don't have any warnings, and don't plan on getting any. Its odd that somebody picked a very similar user name.
Just putting that out there.
I love the topic though. Any rankings for that matter.
Just putting that out there.
I love the topic though. Any rankings for that matter.
10-24-2013, 11:02 PM
I might be reading the post wrong but my top 20 all time draft picks based on productivity and value would be:
1. Tony Boselli
2. Fred Taylor
3. Kevin Hardy
4. Tony Brackens
5. Rashean Mathis
6. Aaron Beasley
7. Donovin Darius
8. Tavian Banks
9. Marcus Stroud
10 . John Henderson
11. Maurice Jones-Drew
12. Brad Meester
13. Daryl Smith
14. Josh Scobee
15. David Garrard
16. Gerald Sensabaugh
17. Cecil Shorts
18. Justin Blackmon
19. Rob Meir
20. Luke Joekel
After 1999 we started missing on first round picks.
A side note we only have 6 pro bowlers that were drafted in the first round.
1. Tony Boselli
2. Fred Taylor
3. Kevin Hardy
4. Tony Brackens
5. Rashean Mathis
6. Aaron Beasley
7. Donovin Darius
8. Tavian Banks
9. Marcus Stroud
10 . John Henderson
11. Maurice Jones-Drew
12. Brad Meester
13. Daryl Smith
14. Josh Scobee
15. David Garrard
16. Gerald Sensabaugh
17. Cecil Shorts
18. Justin Blackmon
19. Rob Meir
20. Luke Joekel
After 1999 we started missing on first round picks.
A side note we only have 6 pro bowlers that were drafted in the first round.
10-24-2013, 11:03 PM
Quote:Has a team recently (ever?) had the #2 pick (while being tied for the worst record, no less) and then followed up with the #1 pick?
There are still many games to be played, and I'm not assuming the Jags will have the #1 pick (although it's looking pretty good at the moment), but I'm wondering if we're approaching historical levels?
Pretty sure the Rams did something like that recently.
10-24-2013, 11:47 PM
Quote:I've said it before. Over a ten year span (2003-13), I would challenge that no team in the history of the NFL has a worse track record of player acquisition than the Jaguars. Harris and Smith were the worst
Cleveland.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/te.../draft.htm
The Jags drafts were really bad in 2008, 2010, 2011. The 2009 draft was pretty good, but Caldwell has eliminated them from the roster. 2012 was Blackmon and punt

Free agents and trade acquisitions are harder to figure, but I don't think Cleveland has done well in this area either.
10-25-2013, 12:02 AM
Quote:I might be reading the post wrong but my top 20 all time draft picks based on productivity and value would be:
1. Tony Boselli
2. Fred Taylor
3. Kevin Hardy
4. Tony Brackens
5. Rashean Mathis
6. Aaron Beasley
7. Donovin Darius
8. Tavian Banks
9. Marcus Stroud
10 . John Henderson
11. Maurice Jones-Drew
12. Brad Meester
13. Daryl Smith
14. Josh Scobee
15. David Garrard
16. Gerald Sensabaugh
17. Cecil Shorts
18. Justin Blackmon
19. Rob Meir
20. Luke Joekel
After 1999 we started missing on first round picks.
A side note we only have 6 pro bowlers that were drafted in the first round.
I'd put recent players like Joeckel and Blackmon on hold. Who knows how they'll turn out. Leftwich was looking pretty good in his first two years.
Based on your list (meaning if you forgot someone, so did I) I rank them as:
1. Tony Boselli
2. Fred Taylor
3. Maurice Jones-Drew
4. Tony Brackens
5. Marcus Stroud
6 . John Henderson
7. Rashean Mathis
8. David Garrard
9. Aaron Beasley
10. Donovin Darius
11. Brad Meester
12. Daryl Smith
13. Kevin Hardy
10-25-2013, 07:47 AM
Quote:I might be reading the post wrong but my top 20 all time draft picks based on productivity and value would be:Whoa whoa whoa.... Scobee should be a lot higher up the list.... and really... Luke joke-OL....they guy cant block anybody from what we saw in the first few games..... Tavian Banks... who...????
1. Tony Boselli
2. Fred Taylor
3. Kevin Hardy
4. Tony Brackens
5. Rashean Mathis
6. Aaron Beasley
7. Donovin Darius
8. Tavian Banks
9. Marcus Stroud
10 . John Henderson
11. Maurice Jones-Drew
12. Brad Meester
13. Daryl Smith
14. Josh Scobee
15. David Garrard
16. Gerald Sensabaugh
17. Cecil Shorts
18. Justin Blackmon
19. Rob Meir
20. Luke Joekel
After 1999 we started missing on first round picks.
A side note we only have 6 pro bowlers that were drafted in the first round.
10-25-2013, 07:58 AM
Quote:I might be reading the post wrong but my top 20 all time draft picks based on productivity and value would be:
3. Kevin Hardy
Hardy was a terrible value. A linebacker picked second overall that was just average as a pass rusher. Stroud and Henderson both picked later in the draft, both made multiple Pro Bowls and both were here longer as well. Not to mention Hardy was picked just ahead of Simeon Rice and Jonathan Ogden.
10-25-2013, 11:12 PM
Quote:Pretty sure the Rams did something like that recently.Now that you mention it (thanks) I do remember the Rams being horrible for a stretch, so you may be correct.
The Bengals have a long history of ineptitude, but it may be just mediocrity rather than truly being terrible.
If I weren't so lazy I'd look it up. I may anyway.
10-26-2013, 07:18 AM
Tavian Banks number 8, really. You have him higher than STroud and Henderson in productiivity? SMDH
Regards..........the Chiefjag
Regards..........the Chiefjag