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Quote:Uh, no....once again you show your ignorance. 

 

Dan Marino dropped to 27 for "other reasons" and we'll just leave it at that. 

 

 

Quote:Dan Marino dropped because he was perceived as a party animal.

 

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What was the reason that Marino dropped?

Quote:What was the reason that Marino dropped?

Quote:Whispers swirled around Marino’s so-so senior performance at the University of Pittsburgh: bad knees and recreational drugs were speculated. If the city of Pittsburgh heard the rumors — which went unsubstantiated — then surely NFL scouts picked up on them.

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Quote:What was the reason that Marino dropped?

Dan was a big fan of "snow".

Quote:Dan was a big fan of "snow".

 

 

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AJ McCarron

Tajh Boyd 

Derek Carr

Aaron Murray

Bryn Renner

Keith Price

Sean Mannion

Nate Scheelhaase 

Brett Smith 

 

Some other guys that so far meet this "rule" 

Quote:What was the reason that Marino dropped?

A rumored cocaine addiction and a low Wonderlic score caused Marino's draft stock to plummet in 1983 and several teams -- including his hometown Steelers -- passed on the Hall-of-Fame quarterback. The sixth QB off the board that year, Marino became an immediate star and was named to the Pro Bowl in his rookie year.



 

Quote:AJ McCarron

Tajh Boyd

Derek Carr

Aaron Murray

Bryn Renner

Keith Price

Sean Mannion

Nate Scheelhaase

Brett Smith


Some other guys that so far meet this "rule"

Thank you for doing the leg work roycee

Its impossible to evaluate a QB bases on stats. But the most important 3, in this order, are: YPA, completion %, INTs.

 

A solid combination of these 3 means you efficiently move the ball down the field. Yards, qb rating/qbr, and TDs are highly overated in determining how good a QB is.

Quote:Its impossible to evaluate a QB bases on stats. But the most important 3, in this order, are: YPA, completion %, INTs.

 

A solid combination of these 3 means you efficiently move the ball down the field. Yards, qb rating/qbr, and TDs are highly overated in determining how good a QB is.

 

I don't know how important the INT stat is. If the number is too low, it could signal a timidness to take chances an make that big time big play throw. Look at Blaine - he didn't throw many INT's in college.....and Peyton Manning threw a ton of INT's his rookie year and that didn't mean he was headed to a bad career. I like QB that aren't afraid to be a gunslinger and go for the big play. 

Quote:Its impossible to evaluate a QB bases on stats. But the most important 3, in this order, are: YPA, completion %, INTs.

 

A solid combination of these 3 means you efficiently move the ball down the field. Yards, qb rating/qbr, and TDs are highly overated in determining how good a QB is.

 

Problem with percentage is that style of offense comes into play. Mariota should be averaging about 80% completion every game with the amount of swing/screen passes they run.

Quote:Problem with percentage is that style of offense comes into play. Mariota should be averaging about 80% completion every game with the amount of swing/screen passes they run.

Why?


Who else has ever reached that unrealistic, unattainable feat? Is he the only college player to have played in a similar offense? Were they averaging an 80% completion rate?

Quote:Problem with percentage is that style of offense comes into play. Mariota should be averaging about 80% completion every game with the amount of swing/screen passes they run.

 

 

Averaging 80% a game is a tall order regardless of style of offense. 

Quote:Averaging 80% a game is a tall order regardless of style of offense.

If anyone was averaging 80% in college we wouldn't be talking about even potentially drafting anyone else.

Maybe this rule is the real reaon we passed on Big Ben........

 

 

I don't like this rule. It doesn't really prove and disprove anything as far as I can tell.

 

QBs who would have fail on this rule:

 

Ben Rothlisberger

 

Jay Cutler (Jury is out on him still, but he has had a productive career thus far....just not HOF level)

 

Joe Flacco

 

Brett Farve

 

Donovan McNabb

 

.........just saying

Quote:Maybe this rule is the real reaon we passed on Big Ben........

 

 

I don't like this rule. It doesn't really prove and disprove anything as far as I can tell.

 

QBs who would have fail on this rule:

 

Ben Rothlisberger - How does Roethlisberger fail out? From what I can tell
here
, he never posted a sub 0.60 completion percentage and he started for three seasons. Was his Wonderlic that bad?


 

Jay Cutler (Jury is out on him still, but he has had a productive career thus far....just not HOF level)

 

Joe Flacco - Are you certain about this guy as well? I know that he was enrolled at Pitt, but I can't find his Delaware numbers.
Found 'em! Flacco posted two seasons of 0.63+ completion rate while at Delaware.


 

Brett Farve

 

Donovan McNabb - McNabb was really close though. His lifetime completion percentage at Syracuse was around 0.58 - 0.59. While that technically violates the rule, the years that he had Marvin Harrison and Kevin Johnson, he posted 0.60 or greater in both.


 

.........just saying

 

And like all of these "rules" regarding player evaluation; they are simply a guideline. There are going to be exceptions to every rule and that's why a GM's job is so difficult. There's really no set way to be successful. Sometimes, despite how hard you work, you just need to get lucky in order to succeed.

Quote:Averaging 80% a game is a tall order regardless of style of offense. 

 

I agree. Play in a real offense so we can see what you are really capable of.

He runs the plays that are called.  Geno Smith was in the same type of offense.  He has transitioned pretty well. 

Quote:AJ McCarron

Tajh Boyd 

Derek Carr

Aaron Murray

Bryn Renner

Keith Price

Sean Mannion

Nate Scheelhaase 

Brett Smith 

 

Some other guys that so far meet this "rule" 

Back up at best, none of them will be long term starter in this league.

Quote:Blaine Gabbert started 26 college games, had a 61% completion percentage and scored a 42 on his Wonderlic.

 

Dumb [BLEEP] Gene was 1 start away from being a Genius.