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I would say the Texans. Their situation is more dire than ours in the sense that both Schaub and Yates aren't getting it done, and all the Jags have to do is simply draft a franchise QB.

Ben Tate is leaving after this season too, and he's looked better than Foster. I'd like to have Tate here in J-Ville for sure. you forgot the Bucs though, I think they're the worst.

The Bucs.       Unlike the teams currently listed in the poll,   the Bucs have major organizational problems.        They are currently much more like the organization that was in place before Tony Dungy became their Head Coach in 1996.      The worst part for their fans is the Bucs likely haven't even hit rock bottom yet.

Jags or maybe the Vikings.  I think the Jags picking the wrong QB again could set us back further than any of the other teams.  While picking the right one would put us firmly ahead of them. 

 

Steelers could be close.  Big Ben is getting older.  The whole team is.  

giants, they have all the players and tools and going no where

Yes but if they fire Coughlin. Wonder how that will turn out. Umm

Pittsburgh. Their salary cap situation is a mess and alot of their best players are old, injured or both. They remind me alot of the 2001 Jaguars.

Texans, they're supposed to be peaking and instead are declining.

Quote:Pittsburgh. Their salary cap situation is a mess and alot of their best players are old, injured or both. They remind me alot of the 2001 Jaguars.

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The Steelers because they appear to rely more than the others on veteran players.  Who are their young, talented players??  I can't think of any other than their center who is now on IR.  The rebuild will probably be beginning at the end of this season by getting younger.  

Texans.  As bad as the Jags are, I don't see them in a bad position right now.  If they make the right moves, the Jags can take over the AFC South within the upcoming years.  As good as Andrew Luck is, it seems the Colts are building a mediocre team with an outdated ball control mentality.  I could be wrong.  But basically, if the best QB in your division is averaging just over 1 TD a game and has mediocre stats across the board, you don't have it that bad.    

Quote:Texans.  As bad as the Jags are, I don't see them in a bad position right now.  If they make the right moves, the Jags can take over the AFC South within the upcoming years.  As good as Andrew Luck is, it seems the Colts are building a mediocre team with an outdated ball control mentality.  I could be wrong.  But basically, if the best QB in your division is averaging just over 1 TD a game and has mediocre stats across the board, you don't have it that bad.    

 

Andrew Luck just doesn't look as good as they were making him out to be coming out of Stanford. He looks good at times, but he just doesn't put up great numbers or anything. He wasn't drafted to be a game manager, he was drafted to be the next Peyton Manning.

Quote:The Bucs.       Unlike the teams currently listed in the poll,   the Bucs have major organizational problems.        They are currently much more like the organization that was in place before Tony Dungy became their Head Coach in 1996.      The worst part for their fans is the Bucs likely haven't even hit rock bottom yet.

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Quote:The Bucs.       Unlike the teams currently listed in the poll,   the Bucs have major organizational problems.        They are currently much more like the organization that was in place before Tony Dungy became their Head Coach in 1996.      The worst part for their fans is the Bucs likely haven't even hit rock bottom yet.

 

True.  I can see that.  But the Bucs are possibly getting the #1 pick and could start from scratch with a franchise QB already in place. 

Quote:The Bucs.       Unlike the teams currently listed in the poll,   the Bucs have major organizational problems.        They are currently much more like the organization that was in place before Tony Dungy became their Head Coach in 1996.      The worst part for their fans is the Bucs likely haven't even hit rock bottom yet.

 

You got me thinking. I wonder if the Bucs could offer Dungy enough money to go back there.

I agree with the steelers, Texans, and Bucs picks. Between those three, They are all about to hit rock bottom and change up major positions. Steelers are going to need a QB and nearly an entire roster soon. None of their recent drafts have produced any stars outside of a couple WR's. Add maybe a GM as well. Texans are going to need a GM, Head coach, QB, and by the time they get things going their roster will be depleted/old. Bucs...they need everything.

 

Mark my words, The bucs will have top 5 picks for the next 2 years and WILL beat the jags for the #1 pick this year.

Quote:Mark my words, The bucs will have top 5 picks for the next 2 years and WILL beat the jags for the #1 pick this year.

I really hope they don't beat us for the #1 pick this year.  If they do, I doubt they'll be having top 5 picks for the next 2 years.

Everyone, FYI, I just added the Bucs to the list.

Quote:True.  I can see that.  But the Bucs are possibly getting the #1 pick and could start from scratch with a franchise QB already in place. 

 

 

A Franchise QB who pans out would be a mega boost for the Bucs.    Yet,  even with such a player,   the Bucs organization is going to be a major obstacle for the team to be successful if it continues to operate in the manner that they have the last several years.         Based on the way the Bucs are currently operating,   this would be practically the last place I would recommend a player to sign with as an UFA.       One day you are the toast of the organization.    Not long after that,   you are discarded.          

Quote:You got me thinking. I wonder if the Bucs could offer Dungy enough money to go back there.

 

 

My gut feeling is even for a boatload of money,   Tony Dungy won't coach the Bucs again.      Two reasons for this:

 

1)    Dungy seems to be enjoying life outside of coaching.     With his track record of helping turn around the Bucs and then going on to win a Super Bowl with the Colts,   Dungy already has great achievements as a Head Coach.     He seems to be the type of person who has many interests and would rather not devote most of his life to coaching again.

 

2)    Even if by chance Dungy wants to coach again,    I don't think he would want to coach in Tampa because of the way that organization operates.    At least when G.M. Rich McKay was still with the Bucs,   Dungy was for the most part in sync with the football operation of the front office.       It doesn't seem likely that Dungy will find the right match in the front office again in Tampa.      What shouldn't be overlooked is this is an organization that ran Dungy and his successor,   Jon Gruden,   out of town.      This despite both of them being highly successful.