against two of the better teams hes played so far this season (kentucky and rutgers) hes been fairly unimpressive. hopefully the omergoshhh hes the next prospect comparable to luck/better than rg3 talk slows down at least for the week.
Quote:I would put him right at the Sam Bradord level as a prospect, just my opinion. I think that is perfect comparison. Bradford was one of the most accurate passers on mid and short passes to ever come out of college but did face better comp. Teddy is very accurate on the short and mid passes from what I have seen. Bradford did get tested against good defense's though. We havn't seen that so much from Teddy because of the conference he is in. Sam was drafted 1st overall and even if he came out a year early he would of been drafted 1st overall.
I'd put him above Bradford.
Bradford put up video game numbers because of the offense he played in. Kinda like what Gabbert -should- have done in college....Chase Daniel did....
Quote:against two of the better teams hes played so far this season (kentucky and rutgers) hes been fairly unimpressive. hopefully the omergoshhh hes the next prospect comparable to luck/better than rg3 talk slows down at least for the week.
You've called guys "potential franchise QBs" without having even seen them play, so you have no room to talk about slowing down on talking up guys.
Quote:You've called guys "potential franchise QBs" without having even seen them play, so you have no room to talk about slowing down on talking up guys.
ive also stated reasons why.... do you want me to show you?
Quote:ive also stated reasons why.... do you want me to show you?
I remember you said they have the tools...but how would you know? You'd never seen them play.
Quote:I remember you said they have the tools...but how would you know? You'd never seen them play.
i did talk about the ones ive seen play, and ive based the ones i havent seen on their projected draft slots, im not sure i see the problem here?
Quote:<sub>http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000...ridgewater</sub>
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Conclusion
<p style="font-family:arial, verdana, helvetica;color:rgb(34,34,33);">Bridgewater put on a solid performance against Rutgers despite being slightly off his game. He didn't exhibit his trademark accuracy at all times, but it's easy to see his burgeoning potential as a franchise player. He is not only a superior passer with exceptional talent, but he has all of the football intelligence and intangibles needed to handle the tough situations that pop up in games. As a player, Bridgewater reminds me of Aaron Rodgers coming out of Cal (I gave Rodgers and Alex Smith bottom-of-the-first-round grades in the 2005 draft when I covered the West Coast for the Carolina Panthers). He is slightly built with a strong arm and extraordinary mental traits. If he continues to progress on his current path, there is no reason why he should not excel at the next level as a franchise quarterback.
i just actually read this and was gonna post it later but yeah thanks for the heads up.
Quote:i did talk about the ones ive seen play, and ive based the ones i havent seen on their projected draft slots, im not sure i see the problem here?
Your stance is that the Bridgewater hype should slow down because it's only October.
BUT don't you think it's a bit hypocritical to tell people to slow down on hyping a guy up, and then call a bunch of guys you'd never seen play "potential franchise QBs" based on draft projections, effectively just buying into the hype of said projections?
Even if we use you're projection logic, there's almost a consensus that Bridgewater is projected to go 1st overall, there's usually an agreement on a QB going that high when they are believed to be the next great prospect at that position.
Quote:Your stance is that the Bridgewater hype should slow down because it's only October.
BUT don't you think it's a bit hypocritical to tell people to slow down on hyping a guy up, and then call a bunch of guys you'd never seen play "potential franchise QBs" based on draft projections, effectively just buying into the hype of said projections?
Even if we use you're projection logic, there's almost a consensus that Bridgewater is projected to go 1st overall, there's usually an agreement on a QB going that high when they are believed to be the next great prospect at that position.
because 2nd round qb prospects can also be "potential franchise qbs" which is believed in the nfl for the most part, whereas the hype in this board concerning teddy was that hes above rg3 and a tad below luck as a prospect, which i havent seen mentioned as much in this board than outside or media, though ive been checking.
Quote:against two of the better teams hes played so far this season (kentucky and rutgers) hes been fairly unimpressive. hopefully the omergoshhh hes the next prospect comparable to luck/better than rg3 talk slows down at least for the week.
Shaun King came out today and said that Teddy is just as good as Luck, so you can no longer argue that his high marks are exclusive to the message board.
Quote:against two of the better teams hes played so far this season (kentucky and rutgers) hes been fairly unimpressive. hopefully the omergoshhh hes the next prospect comparable to luck/better than rg3 talk slows down at least for the week.
He had 2 throws that would qualify as bad against Rutgers. He had many more that were wow moments.
He didnt play his best game because he made a crucial mistake and left some points on the field, but to call it unimpressive is stupid.
Quote:He had 2 throws that would qualify as bad against Rutgers. He had many more that were wow moments.
He didnt play his best game because he made a crucial mistake and left some points on the field, but to call it unimpressive is stupid.
For the amateurs on here (myself included) it's easy to see missed throws. Anyone can look at his OOB throw on the sideline and say he made a bad play. Nuances such as progressions, eye level, and pocket movement (which are far more important and Teddy excels at) are much easier to overlook. Unfortunately, two dozen very good plays showing advanced subtle technicalities is overshadowed by two bad but more obvious throws.
Quote:For the amateurs on here (myself included) it's easy to see missed throws. Anyone can look at his OOB throw on the sideline and say he made a bad play. Nuances such as progressions, eye level, and pocket movement (which are far more important and Teddy excels at) are much easier to overlook. Unfortunately, two dozen very good plays showing advanced subtle technicalities is overshadowed by two bad but more obvious throws.
To ignorant fans. Who fortunately have no say over what happens with this team.
Quote:For the amateurs on here (myself included) it's easy to see missed throws. Anyone can look at his OOB throw on the sideline and say he made a bad play. Nuances such as progressions, eye level, and pocket movement (which are far more important and Teddy excels at) are much easier to overlook. Unfortunately, two dozen very good plays showing advanced subtle technicalities is overshadowed by two bad but more obvious throws.
Quote:He had 2 throws that would qualify as bad against Rutgers. He had many more that were wow moments.
He didnt play his best game because he made a crucial mistake and left some points on the field, but to call it unimpressive is stupid.
we can argue semantics endlessly but at the end of the day under the lights, with plenty of scouts watching and the hype hes getting in this board and playing against one of the worst pass defense in college football, he didnt live up to it. he still had a good game but not worthy of the hype atm.
Quote:we can argue semantics endlessly but at the end of the day under the lights, with plenty of scouts watching and the hype hes getting in this board and playing against one of the worst pass defense in college football, he didnt live up to it. he still had a good game but not worthy of the hype atm.
You're right. I think he wilted under the hype he's been receiving on this board.
Quote:Shaun King came out today and said that Teddy is just as good as Luck, so you can no longer argue that his high marks are exclusive to the message board.
if you think shaun king is a relevant source as far as scouting then go for it. lets see how many other "analysts" will share the same opinion but right now i'd rather prefer people with scouting experience.
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