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I mean how do 31 teams miss out on Dak Prescott. He looks extremely poised, intelligent and displays remarkable arm talent.

For one thing Dak Prescott is a far better player now than he was at Mississippi State. Furthermore, there was talk about him rising in the draft process and being considered in the second round by some teams before he got busted marijuana possession or a DUI just before the draft. That's what dropped him to the fourth round. Finally, there was just nothing that really seemed above average about him. He was average height, size, and arm strength. He just seemed average. No one could predict he would be this good. And honestly, he probably wouldn't look as good as he does in Dallas in a lot of other places. They are the perfect situation for a rookie QB with the best OL in the league, the best rushing attack in the league, and a superstar wide receiver and tight end and plenty of other good receivers in Beesley and Williams. If Prescott were here he would be better than Bortles but would not look like the same player as he is in Dallas.

That said, a lot of QBs wouldn't play as well as Dak even with all of that surrounding them so I'm not trying to discount anything he has accomplished. I think it's just a case where no amount of homework, over simplification, or over complication, can predict the success of a QB. A lot of it is so mental you would need some sort of device to look into a QB's head and see if they had "it". Since you can't do that, you're really just throwing darts at a wall hoping one will hit. The QBs that are taken in the first round are just the ones with all the best "tools" to succeed. At the end of the day, you have to be able to play the position competently and that is hard to know until they actually play in the NFL.

Dak fell because of his DUI charges (which were later dropped) in March just a month before the draft. And I think after you consider the Johnny Manziel saga the Browns went through it was even more scary for teams to pull the trigger on him. Dak was always talented in college. There was no denying nor doubting his ability. It's translated just fine to his game for the Cowboys. I don't know if he'd be 10 - 1 anywhere else but Dallas but from what I've seen when he's playing he looks like a damn NFL QB. He's confident, calm, poised, relaxed and just never seems to be overly rattled or making mistakes with the football. One week he'll throw for 300+ yards and beat you. Or, he'll play it smart and get it done. But I think you not only have to look at the talent around him. But look at the coaching. Garret get's a ton of credit because he's the head man. But they've got Scott Lienehan as the OC whose been a HC before. They've got Bill Callahan there too I think as an offensive lineman coach and assistance. They're just back loaded and front loaded with great coaches and talent and it's clearly reflecting. And I can't discredit this kid at all. I understand the lineman are great. But that team was TOAST last year without Romo. Prescott has certainly played better than an average quarterback. He's certainly done nothing to cost them any games this year. Because had he not been succesfull there's a good chance Romo is already back in the saddle. 

Craziest thing about Dak to me so far has been how advanced his pocket manipulation has been. Dallas' oline actually does give up a fair share of pressures, and Dak is already a pro at the subtle pocket movement that makes the successful pocket QBs so good. His eyes don't drop and he is able to throw off base or with different arm angles and still make a competent pass. 

Yeah the DUI thing hurt him a lot.


Also, I think there's something to be said about his strengths melding with what Dallas needs. They don't need a Brett Favre to sling it all over the place, they need someone to take care of the ball and let the talent around him do their job. Not saying he's just a game manager but that's sort of what he's doing there and it's working perfectly.

How many fans remember Jerry Jones regretted not overpaying for Paxton Lynch? Dak Prescott was never his first choice to be Tony Romo's heir apparent. So even the Cowboys underrated him.

 

Personally I don't understand how one DUI arrest can make a prospect fall that far in the draft. Prescott probably regretted drinking before driving and learned from that mistake pretty quickly.

Even with the way he is playing, he still doesn't have 1st round talent.


Much like Brady when he came out.


But the bottom line is he is a "football player" as in he just has it.


He don't have the big arm, he just fits perfectly in Dallas.

Jags would have drafted Dak, I dont know what round but Gus and Dave loved him 

Quote:Jags would have drafted Dak, I dont know what round but Gus and Dave loved him

Yeah they seemed real high on him during the Senior Bowl. Hindsight is 20/20 but he should've been the pick over Sheldon Day.

Quote:Yeah they seemed real high on him during the Senior Bowl. Hindsight is 20/20 but he should've been the pick over Sheldon Day.

 

Sheldon Day has just been hurt too long to play much. When he is healthy we will find out if he was a good fourth round pick.

Quote:For one thing Dak Prescott is a far better player now than he was at Mississippi State. Furthermore, there was talk about him rising in the draft process and being considered in the second round by some teams before he got busted marijuana possession or a DUI just before the draft. That's what dropped him to the fourth round. Finally, there was just nothing that really seemed above average about him. He was average height, size, and arm strength. He just seemed average. No one could predict he would be this good. And honestly, he probably wouldn't look as good as he does in Dallas in a lot of other places. They are the perfect situation for a rookie QB with the best OL in the league, the best rushing attack in the league, and a superstar wide receiver and tight end and plenty of other good receivers in Beesley and Williams. If Prescott were here he would be better than Bortles but would not look like the same player as he is in Dallas.

 

 

Agreed.

Quote:Sheldon Day has just been hurt too long to play much. When he is healthy we will find out if he was a good fourth round pick.

Didn't say Day wasn't good. But with how well Prescott has played I'd rather have him then any other 4th rounder.

Quote:Didn't say Day wasn't good. But with how well Prescott has played I'd rather have him then any other 4th rounder.

 

We did not need a QB in the fourth round FYI.

Quote:We did not need a QB in the fourth round FYI.

We drafted a QB so obviously we needed one. We just decided to draft a defensive tackle we dont need instead.

Quote:Didn't say Day wasn't good. But with how well Prescott has played I'd rather have him then any other 4th rounder.

 

 

To be fair, I doubt any of us thought that Bortles would regress this much in one year. At the time of the draft, we didn't think we needed a QB for anything more than a future backup. 

Quote:We drafted a QB so obviously we needed one. We just decided to draft a defensive tackle we dont need instead.

 

I said we did not need a QB in the fourth round. Big difference.

Quote:We did not need a QB in the fourth round FYI.

Apparently we did FYI...

Quote:Apparently we did FYI...

 

Right, but nobody really saw him as a starting QB right away, even Dallas. They were counting on having Romo. If they would've known he would get hurt, I doubt they would've taken Prescott any higher than they did, because they viewed him as developmental. The Cowboys were rumored to be interested in Paxton Lynch as a long term QB, but when the Broncos took him, they waited until round 4 to get Prescott.

Quote:Apparently we did FYI...

 

If we needed a QB in the fourth round we would have picked one.