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A-Rob slows down..... If that ball had not been slightly behind A-Rob, forcing him to slow, the defender (who just missed it) would have knocked it down. I'd like to think Blake saw that....but I'm not certain.
(06-07-2017, 03:21 PM)newporttom Wrote: [ -> ]A-Rob slows down.....   If that ball had not been slightly behind A-Rob, forcing him to slow, the defender (who just missed it) would have knocked it down.  I'd like to think Blake saw that....but I'm not certain.

Yeah - you're right -  it was a tight window. Hopefully that's why it was placed there.

(06-07-2017, 03:01 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2017, 10:31 AM)TheAll22 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-07-2017, 12:12 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]You can see Blake drop this one a bit before pulling it to his ear. Nothing like last year, but that extra little motion is in there.
A-Rob has to slow down for it a bit also :/
Not the end of the world or anything -  but I'm in hyper-critical mode.
https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/872292310263967745

In this play Yannick is a LDE, with Campbell at DT. Bouye is lined up at CB2 with Thompson at SS. Hmm

Well - with Church and Gipson injured - Thompson and Wilson are getting lots of work with the ones  - and they said they'd be more "interchangeable" this season.  Makes sense.  We knew Campbell would kick inside at times.  I don't see anything surprising.
Here's another shot of Bortles' throwing motion. Sadly the critical moment is blocked by another player's head but it certainly looks vastly improved. He does drop the ball a fraction too much at the very extent of his motion but if he can keep this up all year I'll be happy camper.
I think that what some people fail to realize is that Tom Coughlin probably has very little to do with the football aspect of players. He's not the head coach and he's not the general manager. He's in an executive position and is hopefully not micro-managing things.

I'll take what he tells the press regarding players, positions, etc. with a grain of salt, especially when they haven't actually had a real practice yet. His comments most likely come from reports from Marrone and others.
(06-07-2017, 04:55 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]I think that what some people fail to realize is that Tom Coughlin probably has very little to do with the football aspect of players.  He's not the head coach and he's not the general manager.  He's in an executive position and is hopefully not micro-managing things.

I'll take what he tells the press regarding players, positions, etc. with a grain of salt, especially when they haven't actually had a real practice yet.  His comments most likely come from reports from Marrone and others.

Never the less. He has been at damn near every practice that I have seen in video clips. Including in the pouring rain yesterday. Like you, I am hopeful he is not micromanaging, unless of course that helps. I would like it both ways please.
(06-06-2017, 06:38 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Yea I read this but it means nothing if he can't do it during live games.  We will see.

Agree 100% need to see it when the bullets are flying.
Ya know... Blake did improve the last 6 out of 8 quarters under marrone. So anything is possible.
Fingers crossed our season kinda depends on it
We'll know in a couple of months. What a long couple of months that'll be.
(06-07-2017, 01:41 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, I can see what you're talking about. Coaches need to be on him like white on rice when it comes to his motion.

Like White On Rice
Posted by Elyse Bruce on March 20, 2013
When you hear someone say it’s like white on rice, what they mean is that the situation is as close as anything can be.   In other words, you’ve got it covered the way rice is covered in whiteness (unless it’s wild rice or brown rice or even red rice).
It should be noted that white rice evolved from wild red rice 10,000 years ago according to the Public Library of Science Genetics journal.  White rice was preferred for a number of reasons, the main ones being that white rice cooked faster than rice that retained color, and it was easier for farmers to spot insects and disease on white rice than on rice that retained color.
Whodini‘s 1984 dance hit “The Freaks Come Out At Night” used the expression thusly:
Now the party’s jumpin’, the place is packed
And when the crowd’s like this, I’m ready to rap
But before I could bust a rhyme on the mic
Freaks are all over me like white on rice.

Brent Checketts, sports writer for the Deseret News used the expression in an article published on June 7, 1976.  The story reported on what happened at the game between the Salt Lake Gulls and the Spokane Indians.  A comment was made about Spokane’s manager, Frank Howard that read:
Friday night Howard was all over ump Bill Lawson like white on rice, and at one point it seemed the 320-pound manager was going to literally chew up and spit out the 145-pound arbiter.  However was not thumbed, however.
American author, Lloyd L. Brown wrote “Iron City“ which was published in 1951.   The story was based on an actual court case and told the story of a black youth who was falsely convicted of the murder of a white businessman, and sentenced to death.  In the story, the following passage is found:
“Boy, you should have seen them!” And now Lonnie could laugh about it.  “Old Rupp damn near fell out of his chair and Big John jumped like I stabbed him.  But then the marshals were all over me like white on rice and I couldn’t see anything.  I’m telling you it was really something!”
While the expression was used in the book in 1951, like white on rice doesn’t seem to appear in any newspaper articles before this time although the expression like gravy on rice does appear in some stories published in the 1930s.
To this end, Idiomation is unable to secure a date earlier than 1951 for this expression with the codicil that its use in Iron City indicates that readers would understand its meaning and therefore, it’s pegged to a generation prior to the book’s publication, putting it to some point in the 1930s.
We'll see. ..
(06-08-2017, 09:28 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2017, 01:41 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, I can see what you're talking about. Coaches need to be on him like white on rice when it comes to his motion.

Like White On Rice
Posted by Elyse Bruce on March 20, 2013
When you hear someone say it’s like white on rice, what they mean is that the situation is as close as anything can be.   In other words, you’ve got it covered the way rice is covered in whiteness (unless it’s wild rice or brown rice or even red rice).
It should be noted that white rice evolved from wild red rice 10,000 years ago according to the Public Library of Science Genetics journal.  White rice was preferred for a number of reasons, the main ones being that white rice cooked faster than rice that retained color, and it was easier for farmers to spot insects and disease on white rice than on rice that retained color.
Whodini‘s 1984 dance hit “The Freaks Come Out At Night” used the expression thusly:
Now the party’s jumpin’, the place is packed
And when the crowd’s like this, I’m ready to rap
But before I could bust a rhyme on the mic
Freaks are all over me like white on rice.


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(06-07-2017, 04:34 PM)DragonFury Wrote: [ -> ]Here's another shot of Bortles' throwing motion. Sadly the critical moment is blocked by another player's head but it certainly looks vastly improved. He does drop the ball a fraction too much at the very extent of his motion but if he can keep this up all year I'll be happy camper.

That is so much better than last year tho. I don't see the ball anywhere near his waist on that throw.
(06-07-2017, 04:55 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]I think that what some people fail to realize is that Tom Coughlin probably has very little to do with the football aspect of players.  He's not the head coach and he's not the general manager.  He's in an executive position and is hopefully not micro-managing things.

I'll take what he tells the press regarding players, positions, etc. with a grain of salt, especially when they haven't actually had a real practice yet.  His comments most likely come from reports from Marrone and others.

That is true, but the force of TC's personality is such that he will surely have an impact.  And I'm sure Marrone will be willingly going to him for advice and feedback.  True, he won't have the game day impact he had as a head coach but he will absolutely have an impact with overall strategy and scheme.  To very badly paraphrase: you can put a coach behind a desk but you'll never take the coach out of the executive.
(06-07-2017, 03:01 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2017, 10:31 AM)TheAll22 Wrote: [ -> ]Coughlin doesn't "talk guys up" and so if he says the mechanics have improved then I believe him. Technical throwing needs constant adjustment as a QB goes through their career. The biggest mistake Blake made last year was not going back to Tom House and his company to work on mechanics. The second was that Blake was throwing too much and really burning out his arm.

I have always believed that Bortles is not a natural thrower based more on his physiological make-up. When you examine his body type, you really don't see a QB frame, but rather a Tight End or Receiver (not that he would be excellent at those positions). Remember his receiving TD against the Titans - He looked very natural extending his legs and dipping his shoulder back to anticipate the catch and run the ball forward with his body.

(06-07-2017, 12:12 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]You can see Blake drop this one a bit before pulling it to his ear. Nothing like last year, but that extra little motion is in there.
A-Rob has to slow down for it a bit also :/
Not the end of the world or anything -  but I'm in hyper-critical mode.
https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/872292310263967745

In this play Yannick is a LDE, with Campbell at DT. Bouye is lined up at CB2 with Thompson at SS. Hmm


Yannick is in the picture before you hit play, and he's definitely not at LDE.... he's right of Campbell at the start and is moving towards the left. I'm thinking Campbell is a 4-tech DT on the play.
TC knows football. TC does not blow smoke. TC has stated that he sees a lot of talent in BB5 and has commented on his effort and desire. Watching all available practice clips BB5 has looked sharp with what they have let us see. I remain hopeful that he is The GUY for this team.
All the practice and repetitions are all well and good. The question will be will he regress again running for his life with 300 pound defenders after him. His throwing motion now (offseason) has no bearing. The question will be his throwing motion in games when he cannot think about the motion.
(06-09-2017, 09:22 PM)jseymour Wrote: [ -> ]All the practice and repetitions are all well and good. The question will be will he regress again running for his life with 300 pound defenders after him. His throwing motion now (offseason) has no bearing. The question will be his throwing motion in games when he cannot think about the motion.

His throwing motion on the run has actually always been significantly better than from the pocket. When he's on the run he'll probably continue to throw fine. The question is will the coaches continue to keep him focused in all controllable situations?
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