(06-23-2017, 06:28 PM)Teal Time Radio Wrote: [ -> ]And what many people who are new fans dont know. Originally the Jaguars were in the AFC Central not South. And oh boy did the steelers hate us. The reason I mentioned that. Is we still won games. Though had the legendary defense. And Boselli and Searcy helped that.
I hated the Steelers, too.
In my eyes, no AFC South rivalry matched the one we were developing with the Steelers.
Detractors might think that our division was a knock against Boselli, until you realize the pass rushers he went up against, including Greg Lloyd, Michael McCrary, Jevin Kearse/Kevin Carter, and Rob Burnett.
(06-23-2017, 07:13 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-23-2017, 06:01 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Whether it was shutting down the opposition's best pass rusher, collapsing the entire side of an opposing defensive line, chasing down that Bengals CB, or being the enforcer in case an opposing player got out of line, Boselli was an absolute pleasure to watch and is one of the ones who brought glory to an inglorious position.
Considering that he made the NFL's All Decade team of the 1990s despite playing half the decade speaks volumes.
I loved it when he'd hand off his DE to the G before taking out a blitzer.
Yeah, T-Bo should be much higher than #18. Heck. Searcy should probably rank #18.
Yes....he had the awareness and athleticism to pull it off. Just a great great player. To you newer fans who didn't have the chance to see him, if you get a chance to see some Boselli era videos, do it.
I would recommend the 1996 playoff game against Buffalo and Hall of Fame DE Bruce Smith, the1998 Monday Night football game against Hall of Fame DE Jason Taylor and Miami, and the 2000 game against Pittsburgh where FT rushed for 234 yards.
His games against the Ravens and Chiefs are noteworthy, too.
In fact, in an interview before being inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Taylor admits that Boselli abused him.
"Jason Taylor on fellow Pro Football Hall of Fame finalist Tony Boselli: "Boselli beat me down on a Monday night. An epic beatdown. Surprising it didn't knock me into retirement."
http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-06...77917781-4
(06-22-2017, 05:02 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2017, 02:49 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]My top 5:
5. ) Jonathan Ogden
4. ) Joe Thomas
3. ) Tony Boselli
2. ) Bruce Matthews
1. ) Anthony Munoz
I'd take Ogden for 176 games over Boselli and 91 games in a heartbeat.
Same with Joe Thomas who has 160 games and counting.
I agree.
From simply a performance aspect, I feel that Boselli was so much better that it makes up for the missing games.
(06-22-2017, 01:33 PM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]Considering the fact that Tony hasn't played a snap in more than a decade, and he had a relatively short NFL career, the fact that he's still worthy of being mentioned among the 20 best at his position of all time is actually a good thing.
Yes, I agree. It is fun to come up with lists like this , but all are totally subjective:
Montana, Brady or Unitas:
Mackey, Winslow or Gonzalez:
Deacon Jones or Reggie White:
Mean Joe, Lilly or Olsen:
Deion or Night Train:
We could do this for just about every position. HOWEVER, if I was asked to name the 3 players who are undisputably the greatest at their positions (at least during my lifetime of over 60 years), they would be:
Jim Brown- Truly "a man amongst boys." Throw in he retired in his prime and did love scenes with Raquel Welch!
Jerry Rice- Records will never be broken. Not a bad dancer, either. Or was that Emmitt Smith?
Lawrence Taylor- Basically created a new position, the rush linebacker, and had to be accounted for on every play.
Where is Jason Peters? The bodyguard has been a top 5 LT every season he's been healthy
You might be adding Tyron Smith and Taylor Lewan to this list in several years as well.
Boselli's peak was one of the best ever but again, the longevity really does matter
Munoz was the greatest for the longest
Ogden is slightly overrated because of his size and the fact that he was one of the biggest men to ever play the game - I don't think he was significantly better than Walter Jones and often Jones was better against the pass
This list is what one man thinks. It's his personal opinion. Maybe ask the players around the league to do an all time top 100.
Boselli would probably make it.
(06-26-2017, 12:01 AM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]This list is what one man thinks. It's his personal opinion. Maybe ask the players around the league to do an all time top 100.
Boselli would probably make it.
I'm honestly a little hesitant on the player's collective opinions - Sure they often get a first-hand look, but their samples are still limited but these guys are still subject to the same bias that fans are.. I only give them a slight edge.
It's simple mathematics - the average NFL player hangs around 6 years (players drafted 1-3rd round) and 3 for all players that make the opening day roster within 2 seasons (PI Sports)
That players plays on one side of the ball and see how many players over the corse of a season or year
for the most part the players still only see a fraction of athletes in their tenure and can't play across generations?
Example - Adrian Peterson is the best RB of the last decade, before that it was LT, name a defensive player who has played against both of them for a signifigant amount of games?
The list gets so subjective but it's fun and interesting
Jared Allen, Ike Taylor, Julius Peppers, Troy Polumalu, etc. There's plenty of players that have played against both.
The list would need to be broken up into eras.
I agree with those who say his longevity doesn't stand up, but his performance stands out even more so. To not have him top ten is laughable.