(06-23-2017, 07:07 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]This same thread gets repeated about every six months or so, and FT always comes out the victor with J-Smooth and T-Bo each getting a few mentions. The thing is, in a couple years we may be saying Ramsey or Fournette.
I really hope that one day we can argue over who the better running back was - Taylor or Fournette - with Fournette having the edge because he won a championship
It's Fred Taylor for me all the way.
Rashean Mathis deserves an honorable mention
(06-26-2017, 02:16 PM)Hard_Eight Wrote: [ -> ]Rashean Mathis deserves an honorable mention
Mathis was one of the great players in this league and he was never the best but was probably top 5 until his last season in Jax. Great player all around with a great mind for the game. I remember how he used to command Peyton Manning's respect and that was the biggest indicator for me of how good he was
(06-25-2017, 10:25 PM)TheAll22 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-23-2017, 07:07 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]This same thread gets repeated about every six months or so, and FT always comes out the victor with J-Smooth and T-Bo each getting a few mentions. The thing is, in a couple years we may be saying Ramsey or Fournette.
I really hope that one day we can argue over who the better running back was - Taylor or Fournette - with Fournette having the edge because he won a championship
Taylor had the Jets though - I don't think Fournette is the athlete that Taylor was but I would love to be debating this in 15 years
J Smooth is still the man. And really close is Taylormade. And best of all time a Tackle? That makes me sad.
(06-25-2017, 01:21 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]Personally, I would have to give the nod to Fred Taylor. He's 17th all time in career rushing yards, and the number would certainly be higher had he never been injured. Considering the fact that in an earlier era the league was more "run heavy" than "pass heavy" to be in the top 20 says a lot.
That being said, Jimmy Smith (my all time favorite player) is certainly worth a mention. However, much of his success was due in part to Keenan McCardell and Mark Brunell as well as the threat of Fred Taylor.
Tony Boselli was certainly one of if not THE best at his position and is destined for the Hall of Fame so he certainly deserves a mention. Offensive linemen usually aren't in the conversation when talking about a "best player of all time".
Just my opinion, but Mark Brunell shouldn't even be listed in the poll. While he was a good quarterback, he really wasn't anything special. Much of his success came from his supporting cast of players. He certainly isn't talked about like Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, etc..
Brunell had a huge part in one of the biggest upsets in NFL playoff history. He threw that fade perfect. He had a long scramble in the same game. He was the MVP in the Pro Bowl twice. He led the Jags to 2 AFC title games. He was on a ton of commercials. In his first year he led all QBs in rushing. I think for a while he led the team in rushing.
(06-26-2017, 11:46 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-25-2017, 01:21 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]Personally, I would have to give the nod to Fred Taylor. He's 17th all time in career rushing yards, and the number would certainly be higher had he never been injured. Considering the fact that in an earlier era the league was more "run heavy" than "pass heavy" to be in the top 20 says a lot.
That being said, Jimmy Smith (my all time favorite player) is certainly worth a mention. However, much of his success was due in part to Keenan McCardell and Mark Brunell as well as the threat of Fred Taylor.
Tony Boselli was certainly one of if not THE best at his position and is destined for the Hall of Fame so he certainly deserves a mention. Offensive linemen usually aren't in the conversation when talking about a "best player of all time".
Just my opinion, but Mark Brunell shouldn't even be listed in the poll. While he was a good quarterback, he really wasn't anything special. Much of his success came from his supporting cast of players. He certainly isn't talked about like Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, etc..
Brunell had a huge part in one of the biggest upsets in NFL playoff history. He threw that fade perfect. He had a long scramble in the same game. He was the MVP in the Pro Bowl twice. He led the Jags to 2 AFC title games. He was on a ton of commercials. In his first year he led all QBs in rushing. I think for a while he led the team in rushing.
True regarding the playoff games, especially the game in Denver.
MVP in the Pro Bowl doesn't really say a whole lot since it really isn't a "real" game.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking Brunell at all. He was a good QB and was very good at rushing... up until he got injured. I'm just saying that his level of play for his position was nowhere near the level of play of the other three for their respective positions.
(06-24-2017, 06:59 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Fred
No contest
Agreed. This team hasn't had a player that explosive on the roster since. The guy was a freak of nature because of his size, speed, and elusiveness.
Jimmy Smith would be #2 on my list, but there's a wide gap between them.
When Brunell won Pro Bowl MVP, the game was more important back then.
Brunell absolutely deserves to be on the list. His stats do not show it but he was very similiar to Steve Young before he got injured. Duo threat that could beat you with his arms and legs. He plays a part and just about every historic win in this franchise.
David Garrard actually might be #1 he did not have the supporting cast Brunell did.
I'd put Searcy ahead of Brunell.
Toss up between Tony and Fred. Both of them among the greatest to ever play their respective positions.
My personal bias leans Freddy, history would probably support Tony. Jimmy was an absolute top tier player who could alter the outcome of any game, but he's probably not top ten ever to play his position, especially after the recent golden-era type influx of WR talent (Andre, Megatron, Julio, Green, Brown, we've witnessed some special players at that position over the last decade.).
Freddy's stats might not suggest he's top ten RBs ever, but the eye test does. And if Jim Brown, who I consider the #1 RB ever, says you're the best back in the league while LT, Edge, Gore, Jackson, Faulk, etc are active...well, I'll assume Jim Brown knows more about playing RB than I do. And he singled out a small-market, not perennially Pro-Bowl Freddy as the best. Speaks as highly to me as Munoz saying Tony was the best. Both are studs, both had injury issues in different ways. For me, as RedRooster28, I'll take #28. But Tony was among the best human beings who ever lived at doing what he did as well.