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You be the judge on this one:

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...at-for-win

 

CBS switched to the end of the Broncos/Saints game after our game ended while a blocked PAT return for a safety was being reviewed. Did the Broncos win in regulation because they wear white shoes?

 

I have seen plays like this before, but usually people don't make a fuss about white shoes because they aren't game breakers.

White shoes matter

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What if they called him out on the field and the white shoes "prevented" them from overturning it?  If that was a Jaguars player with white shoes that is what would happen.

Quote:What if they called him out on the field and the white shoes "prevented" them from overturning it?  If that was a Jaguars player with white shoes that is what would happen.

 

The Jaguars don't wear white shoes.

 

The call still would have stood because the referee's problem was lacking indisputable visual evidence.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/heres-...ints-game/

 

This has an angle that is dead on from a local affiliate. When you go frame by frame, he is definitely out.

Quote:This has an angle that is dead on from a local affiliate. When you go frame by frame, he is definitely out.

 

So Dean Blandino agrees with Broncos safety Darian Stewart. The obvious question is why didn't the referee have that angle?

 

Actually there is one more thing that was lost in this controversy: his left leg was out of bounds. Why does it matter when we are talking about his right shoe?

What Brett? This thread is nothing more than a fun conversation about football.

Quote:The Jaguars don't wear white shoes.

 

The call still would have stood because the referee's problem was lacking indisputable visual evidence.

 

Lets pretend a Jaguars player was wearing white shoes.  If he's near the line he'd be called out, because he's a Jaguar.  But if he were a Bronco at the same spot, he'd be called in.  Same rule applies to both teams during the review.  But the Broncos get the safety, the Jaguars do not.  See how this works?

Quote:Lets pretend a Jaguars player was wearing white shoes. If he's near the line he'd be called out, because he's a Jaguar. But if he were a Bronco at the same spot, he'd be called in. Same rule applies to both teams during the review. But the Broncos get the safety, the Jaguars do not.  See how this works?

 

Wrong. Bad calls and non-calls happen to all 32 teams. Yes, the Jaguars have been on the losing end of bad officiating, but so have the best teams (see Atlanta). Last week, Denver was flagged for phony DPI in the end zone multiple times.

Quote:Wrong. Bad calls and non-calls happen to all 32 teams. Yes, the Jaguars have been on the losing end of bad officiating, but so have the best teams (see Atlanta). Last week, Denver was flagged for phony DPI in the end zone multiple times.

 

I watched that game and Harris was absolutely mugging his receiver at the end of the game.  Those DPIs were justified, even the Denver homer I know said as much.  Denver is rarely on the negative side of officiating, much like other "good" or historic teams, and not nearly to the same degree that bad teams like Jacksonville are.

Quote:I watched that game and Harris was absolutely mugging his receiver at the end of the game. Those DPIs were justified, even the Denver homer I know said as much. Denver is rarely on the negative side of officiating, much like other "good" or historic teams, and not nearly to the same degree that bad teams like Jacksonville are.

 

I was thinking of Roby making some contact while looking at the ball. It was not blatant like the Harris one.

 

I am not going to worry about what officials would have called if a Jaguar did it until the Jaguars wear white shoes.

Back to my question: Do teams that wear white shoes get bad calls like this one more often than teams that wear black shoes? It could be the goal line, end line, any yard line. I have heard commentators say it's hard to tell because the player was wearing white shoes on other plays, but for obvious reasons this one is the first to get everybody's attention about calls being affected by team uniforms. I doubt the NFL plans to ban white shoes in team uniforms, but it would be a good one-year experiment if the TV networks can't send their perfect angles of sideline runs to the NFL's Officiating Department.

Quote:Back to my question: Do teams that wear white shoes get bad calls like this one more often than teams that wear black shoes? 

 

The white shoes are only another excuse for the call to be "inexclusive".  So with white shoes it only matters what the call is on the field and not in the review.  So in order to benefit from white shoes, you'd have to believe the call on the field would be favorable to you in the first place and not the other team.

Quote:The white shoes are only another excuse for the call to be "inexclusive".  So with white shoes it only matters what the call is on the field and not in the review.  So in order to benefit from white shoes, you'd have to believe the call on the field would be favorable to you in the first place and not the other team.

 

The word is inconclusive.

 

The call on the field was favorable.

Quote:The word is inconclusive.

 

The call on the field was favorable.

 

You know what I mean.  If you are banning white shoes you are admitting that the refs have a bias.

Quote:You know what I mean. If you are banning white shoes you are admitting that the refs have a bias.

 

Banning white shoes would not be admitting officiating bias.

Quote:Banning white shoes would not be admitting officiating bias.

 

It looks like you forgot to put on your tinfoil hat.

Quote:It looks like you forgot to put on your tinfoil hat.

 

Huh? You were the one who brought up officiating bias.