(09-03-2017, 11:35 PM)tealfootball Wrote: [ -> ]Rosen's second to last touchdown had some Aaron Rodgers magic to it. I hope he keeps it up. It's either him or donald to the Jags if we play poorly this season.
Not necessarily. Mason Rudolph looked amazing as well. His stock is way up too, especially as poorly as Josh Allen played.
Right now, I have the QB's ranked.......
1. Mason Rudolph (Still my favorite.)
2. Baker Mayfield (I'm surprised I'm saying it, but he looked phenomenal.)
3. Josh Rosen (Forced some throws, but considering the pressure he was under and the hole he was in, it was understandable. What an amazing comeback!)
4. Sam Darnold (I wonder if the pressure of going from a guy to "The Guy", is too much for him. He has all the tools, but may need more time to develop. It'll be interesting to see how he rebounds from a subpar performance.)
5. Luke Falk (It was very hard to judge him. The Cougars didn't need too much to blow out there opponents, so they utilized short passes, runs and a ton of shovel passes. I wanna see him throw the ball downfield. Hopefully I will get to see that next week.)
6. Josh Allen (Ugh! I didn't see anything from him to make me want him at all.)
It's only the first week and undoubtedly my rankings will change, but this week, I saw a lot of good things from several different QB's. Hopefully, we don't screw this up come draft time, because I am seeing some really good talent out there.
(09-04-2017, 03:29 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Right now, I have the QB's ranked.......
1. Mason Rudolph (Still my favorite.)
2. Baker Mayfield (I'm surprised I'm saying it, but he looked phenomenal.)
3. Josh Rosen (Forced some throws, but considering the pressure he was under and the hole he was in, it was understandable. What an amazing comeback!)
4. Sam Darnold (I wonder if the pressure of going from a guy to "The Guy", is too much for him. He has all the tools, but may need more time to develop. It'll be interesting to see how he rebounds from a subpar performance.)
5. Luke Falk (It was very hard to judge him. The Cougars didn't need too much to blow out there opponents, so they utilized short passes, runs and a ton of shovel passes. I wanna see him throw the ball downfield. Hopefully I will get to see that next week.)
6. Josh Allen (Ugh! I didn't see anything from him to make me want him at all.)
It's only the first week and undoubtedly my rankings will change, but this week, I saw a lot of good things from several different QB's. Hopefully, we don't screw this up come draft time, because I am seeing some really good talent out there.
Since you like Mayfield so much (I don't disagree), how come McSorley isn't on your list? He is also just 6'0," but has everything else going for him. He also throws a great deep ball and has always been a winner. Depending on where he is ranked at the end of this season, he may also declare for the draft. As a Penn State fan, I hope he returns to State College next season, but the Jaguars could do much worse than him.
Josh Rosen has been my number 1 QB but that game showed me a lot, bringing your team back from that much, this kid is special, I hope we can get him
Baker Mayfield is a fantastic college QB, but I dont think he is a NFL QB
I really like Luke Fulk but prob is a 2nd round pick QB
(09-04-2017, 10:22 AM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-04-2017, 03:29 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Right now, I have the QB's ranked.......
1. Mason Rudolph (Still my favorite.)
2. Baker Mayfield (I'm surprised I'm saying it, but he looked phenomenal.)
3. Josh Rosen (Forced some throws, but considering the pressure he was under and the hole he was in, it was understandable. What an amazing comeback!)
4. Sam Darnold (I wonder if the pressure of going from a guy to "The Guy", is too much for him. He has all the tools, but may need more time to develop. It'll be interesting to see how he rebounds from a subpar performance.)
5. Luke Falk (It was very hard to judge him. The Cougars didn't need too much to blow out there opponents, so they utilized short passes, runs and a ton of shovel passes. I wanna see him throw the ball downfield. Hopefully I will get to see that next week.)
6. Josh Allen (Ugh! I didn't see anything from him to make me want him at all.)
It's only the first week and undoubtedly my rankings will change, but this week, I saw a lot of good things from several different QB's. Hopefully, we don't screw this up come draft time, because I am seeing some really good talent out there.
Since you like Mayfield so much (I don't disagree), how come McSorley isn't on your list? He is also just 6'0," but has everything else going for him. He also throws a great deep ball and has always been a winner. Depending on where he is ranked at the end of this season, he may also declare for the draft. As a Penn State fan, I hope he returns to State College next season, but the Jaguars could do much worse than him.
For me, it's all about accuracy. Mayfield has been pinpoint accurate for most of his career and last season he completed around 70% of his passes. McSorley on the other hand, is pretty streaky. Last year he couldn't even hit my minimum of 60% pass completions. Combine that with his reported 6' height and I just don't see an NFL QB. For smaller QB's, they need to be accurate and at 6'1" Mayfield shows me what I wanna see.
(09-03-2017, 10:50 PM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]Rosen has something similar to someone, garbage time stats
Lol derp
(09-04-2017, 11:17 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (09-04-2017, 10:22 AM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ]Since you like Mayfield so much (I don't disagree), how come McSorley isn't on your list? He is also just 6'0," but has everything else going for him. He also throws a great deep ball and has always been a winner. Depending on where he is ranked at the end of this season, he may also declare for the draft. As a Penn State fan, I hope he returns to State College next season, but the Jaguars could do much worse than him.
For me, it's all about accuracy. Mayfield has been pinpoint accurate for most of his career and last season he completed around 70% of his passes. McSorley on the other hand, is pretty streaky. Last year he couldn't even hit my minimum of 60% pass completions. Combine that with his reported 6' height and I just don't see an NFL QB. For smaller QB's, they need to be accurate and at 6'1" Mayfield shows me what I wanna see.
I agree about the need for pinpoint accuracy when considering undersized quarterbacks. It seems like McSorley has gotten better in this category. He was 18/25 but had at least 3 drops by his receivers (wet conditions). Of course, Akron is not the best opponent so we'll see what he does against teams like Michigan, Ohio State and Iowa.
The thing I like about both he and Mayfield is their leadership and decision-making. It would be nice if they were 6'3" or taller, but guys like Drew Brees and Russell Wilson have been able to overcome their lack of size due to excelling in other areas. The Jaguars' only successful quarterback, Mark Brunell, was also somewhat undersized yet took the team to 2 AFC championship games.
It is unfortunate that, as Jaguars' fans, we're still desperate to find a solid franchise quarterback after having drafted 3 guys very high in the 1st round only to fail for 1 reason or another. Whether it be Caldwell (doubtful), Coughlin or someone else calling the shots in the next draft, it appears they will have several good candidates to chose from. Lets hope they finally get it right.
By the way, your user name "TheO-LineMatters" is great. If Caldwell had this philosophy in the last draft the Jaguars would currently be in much better shape going into this season. Would we have been better off with Dan Feeney at one guard spot or Elflein at center with Linder moving back to guard? I believe the answer is obvious. It appears they still feel good about the interior of the line since they have so far passed on Boone, Zuttah, Greco and Dorian Johnson. I don't claim to be an expert on any of these 4 guys, but it would seem Caldwell would have pulled the trigger on at least one of them considering what he currently has on his roster.
We have to remember, Boone, Zuttah, and Greco are FAs I believe. So even if we offer, they don't HAVE to come here.
(09-04-2017, 12:41 PM)mvannostran Wrote: [ -> ]We have to remember, Boone, Zuttah, and Greco are FAs I believe. So even if we offer, they don't HAVE to come here.
Yea, I'm not sure if that is the situation for all 3 guys. If it is, then possibly the Jaguars have already reached out to one or more of them and they are waiting to see if any other offers come their way. Hopefully this is the case. Not that any of these guys are the next Larry Allen, but at least they would likely upgrade what is a very scary-looking offensive line.
Rosen.
Rudolph.
Mayfield.
Darnold.
Jackson.
Falk.
Allen.