(09-24-2017, 11:09 PM)Scarecrow Wrote: [ -> ] (09-24-2017, 11:06 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: [ -> ]Read your negative rating. That explains everything.
You won't get a warning for this one, but any attempt to drive me crazy by obviuosly telling a blatant lie from my POV will be reported.
I did and why would I get a warning?
I've articulated that I think the Flacco is less important to the Ravens right now than Yanda. Yanda is far the better player between the two. He's the best interior OL in the game.
You can report me as you wish JW. I didn't tell a lie. Just because you can't or don't understand something doesn't mean you need to freak out and report everyone either.
To clarify, you know the most important player is the quarterback because of his job description and immense skill requirements that are required just to be a game manager like Joe Flacco is, and that guards like Marshal Yanda, while very talented, smart, and competitive, only exist to block defensive linemen or linebackers. Their job description is block big guys. Not run to big guys and tackle them. And we are not talking about the left tackle here.
(09-24-2017, 11:36 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: [ -> ] (09-24-2017, 11:09 PM)Scarecrow Wrote: [ -> ]I did and why would I get a warning?
I've articulated that I think the Flacco is less important to the Ravens right now than Yanda. Yanda is far the better player between the two. He's the best interior OL in the game.
You can report me as you wish JW. I didn't tell a lie. Just because you can't or don't understand something doesn't mean you need to freak out and report everyone either.
To clarify, you know the most important player is the quarterback because of his job description and immense skill requirements that are required just to be a game manager like Joe Flacco is, and that guards like Marshal Yanda, while very talented, smart, and competitive, only exist to block defensive linemen or linebackers. Their job description is block big guys. Not run to big guys and tackle them. And we are not talking about the left tackle here.
I don't always agree the most important player is the QB. I think that gets overrated at times.
If both players were offered to the Jaguars which would you rather have?
Yanda is the far superior player of the two.
QB may typically be more important than an OL but when the playing ability of the two is that far apart I disagree.
You take back those -1s now.
(09-24-2017, 11:45 PM)Scarecrow Wrote: [ -> ] (09-24-2017, 11:36 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: [ -> ]To clarify, you know the most important player is the quarterback because of his job description and immense skill requirements that are required just to be a game manager like Joe Flacco is, and that guards like Marshal Yanda, while very talented, smart, and competitive, only exist to block defensive linemen or linebackers. Their job description is block big guys. Not run to big guys and tackle them. And we are not talking about the left tackle here.
I don't always agree the most important player is the QB. I think that gets overrated at times.
If both players were offered to the Jaguars which would you rather have?
Yanda is the far superior player of the two.
QB may typically be more important than an OL but when the playing ability of the two is that far apart I disagree.
You take back those -1s now.
Allow me.
Look at it this way JDub: what would have the biggest negative effect on the Ravens, replacing Flacco with a backup QB or replacing Yanda with a backup OG?
I personally think the dropoff from Flacco is bigger, but it's debatable, and not a certainty.
(09-24-2017, 11:45 PM)Scarecrow Wrote: [ -> ]I don't always agree the most important player is the QB. I think that gets overrated at times.
If both players were offered to the Jaguars which would you rather have?
Yanda is the far superior player of the two.
QB may typically be more important than an OL but when the playing ability of the two is that far apart I disagree.
You take back those -1s now.
QB is overrated in this sense: When a team wins, people only credit the QB, and when a team loses, people only blame the QB, despite the obvious fact no less than 25 players won, lost, or tied the game for their team. QB will always be the most important position in football regardless of who plays it. If a player who is not a QB is superior at his respective job - which is not what I am debating here - that makes the QB more important as a game manager. Which team has a better game manager in London? Obviously the Jaguars.
How do I take back a negative rating?
(09-24-2017, 11:55 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: [ -> ] (09-24-2017, 11:45 PM)Scarecrow Wrote: [ -> ]I don't always agree the most important player is the QB. I think that gets overrated at times.
If both players were offered to the Jaguars which would you rather have?
Yanda is the far superior player of the two.
QB may typically be more important than an OL but when the playing ability of the two is that far apart I disagree.
You take back those -1s now.
QB is overrated in this sense: When a team wins, people only credit the QB, and when a team loses, people only blame the QB, despite the obvious fact no less than 25 players won, lost, or tied the game for their team. QB will always be the most important position in football regardless of who plays it. If a player who is not a QB is superior at his respective job - which is not what I am debating here - that makes the QB more important as a game manager. Which team has a better game manager in London? Obviously the Jaguars.
How do I take back a negative rating?
No need JW. I was joking hence the emoji.
I'm loving the vibe from the team. Coming into the week we were thinking Week 1 was a fluke. That isn't the case. We are capable of showing up prepared and beating decent teams. We still shot ourselves in the foot on a few different occasions but no huge costly mistakes. I'm ready to call this defense elite. The only thing is I'd like to see the Jaguars string wins together. Get used to winning and what it takes. It feels like we have the personnel to do it. The schedule doesn't look intimidating at all after this game. I was ready to call the Steelers game a loss but they got whipped by the Bears. Going to have to kick the west coast bugaboo. Man I'd love to see us keep up with the Tacks for the division and see our last game against them get flex'd to SNF.
Even a year ago, if the Jags had a loss like the tack game last week, it would have started a skid that would pretty much set the tone for the season. Those kinds of losses always lingered. That’s a big difference this year, and Marrone deserves a lot of credit. Not only did he have the team prepared a week later, but did it with a transatlantic trip in between. Maybe, just maybe the team is actually starting to turn the corner.
(09-25-2017, 12:19 AM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]Even a year ago, if the Jags had a loss like the tack game last week, it would have started a skid that would pretty much set the tone for the season. Those kinds of losses always lingered. That’s a big difference this year, and Marrone deserves a lot of credit. Not only did he have the team prepared a week later, but did it with a transatlantic trip in between. Maybe, just maybe the team is actually starting to turn the corner.
I don't know if Marrone is the best coach we could have hired, but he's orders of magnitude better than Gus Bradley.
(09-25-2017, 12:19 AM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]Even a year ago, if the Jags had a loss like the tack game last week, it would have started a skid that would pretty much set the tone for the season. Those kinds of losses always lingered. That’s a big difference this year, and Marrone deserves a lot of credit. Not only did he have the team prepared a week later, but did it with a transatlantic trip in between. Maybe, just maybe the team is actually starting to turn the corner.
It's about time we show some resiliency. For the last several years when something bad happened it just snowballed and seemed to last for several games. The Ravens were thought to be an elite team coming into the game and were just destroyed. That has to give us some confidence going forward I hope.
I just finished watching the game replay. And I just noticed some things I wanted to point out.
The holding calls on us. LF had runs of 9, 10 and 10 all called back. Another thing that most people already know is Bortles plays kinda scared. I noticed a handful of times while he was in the pocket he got happy feet...then rolled out and threw it away...but the pocket was fine and not collapsing Or the play where he was almost sacked by Weddle then threw it to Lee after he got away...on that play it showed the camera view from behind and I watched it a few times to see the play call. It had 3 guys on the right and Lee on the left. Lee ran a outside wheel route to the sideline. The guy on the outside on the right ran a outside wheel the 2 in the middle ran crossing routes. The defense was in a solid Cover 2. Anyways my point is it was way to cute of a call for the position of the field we were at. And the last thing was the constant fade routes to Lee...witch none of them worked. My thoughts on how much we don't realize how much we will miss AR-15 if we do find a way to the playoffs. When we are in running formations we run....rarely did I see pass plays except for Lewis's second touchdown.
Our defense is impressive...hands down just a great day. All levels...I just noticed every time we got a turnover they group up and just fly towards the end zone it was cool to watch as a long time Jags fan. The defense has the ability to be a 2000 Raven's or a 02 Buc's squad. But the offense just seems messy. It seems like we play like its 4th down..every down. If you watch after Bortles hit Lewis for that second touchdown over the middle....his face read "I can't believe im not [BLEEP] [BLEEP] up" lol. I don't know maybe I'm crazy but I just want more. After all the losing I want blood dammit. After watching what Tom Brady did vs Houston today....it just reminds you that its possible to have greatness. And all we can do is watch.
(09-25-2017, 12:23 AM)MalabarJag Wrote: [ -> ] (09-25-2017, 12:19 AM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]Even a year ago, if the Jags had a loss like the tack game last week, it would have started a skid that would pretty much set the tone for the season. Those kinds of losses always lingered. That’s a big difference this year, and Marrone deserves a lot of credit. Not only did he have the team prepared a week later, but did it with a transatlantic trip in between. Maybe, just maybe the team is actually starting to turn the corner.
I don't know if Marrone is the best coach we could have hired, but he's orders of magnitude better than Gus Bradley.
A soggy sandwich is an order of magnitude better than Bradley.
After watching Tom Brady?
You'd rather have to squeak out a win in the last minute than win 44-7? What are you talking about?
This game reminded me of The Godfather, when Sonny went across town and curb-stomped Carlo.
"You touch my sister again and I'll kill you."
(09-25-2017, 12:19 AM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]Even a year ago, if the Jags had a loss like the tack game last week, it would have started a skid that would pretty much set the tone for the season. Those kinds of losses always lingered. That’s a big difference this year, and Marrone deserves a lot of credit. Not only did he have the team prepared a week later, but did it with a transatlantic trip in between. Maybe, just maybe the team is actually starting to turn the corner.
I was thinking along the same lines. Good coaches get things fixed after a bad game.
(09-24-2017, 11:55 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: [ -> ] (09-24-2017, 11:45 PM)Scarecrow Wrote: [ -> ]I don't always agree the most important player is the QB. I think that gets overrated at times.
If both players were offered to the Jaguars which would you rather have?
Yanda is the far superior player of the two.
QB may typically be more important than an OL but when the playing ability of the two is that far apart I disagree.
You take back those -1s now.
QB is overrated in this sense: When a team wins, people only credit the QB, and when a team loses, people only blame the QB, despite the obvious fact no less than 25 players won, lost, or tied the game for their team. QB will always be the most important position in football regardless of who plays it. If a player who is not a QB is superior at his respective job - which is not what I am debating here - that makes the QB more important as a game manager. Which team has a better game manager in London? Obviously the Jaguars.
How do I take back a negative rating?
Just go to the post you rated, click the rate button, change the rating to neutral and click update.
Bortles plays scared? He may be a lot of things, but scared isn't one of them... I think you type scared.
I also think a lot of credit goes to Campbell. He is a true leader in the locker room and when he speaks, the players listen. The Jags haven't had a presence like his in the locker room for some time now.
Marrone is 3-2 so far as the coach of the Jags. Blake has 8 TDs and 2 picks in those 6 games. I'm digging this.
(09-25-2017, 04:07 AM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: [ -> ]After watching Tom Brady?
You'd rather have to squeak out a win in the last minute than win 44-7? What are you talking about?
What I ment was his ability to lead a comeback like that. How many wins does BB5 have coming from behind? I was just trying to point out that when we are trailing we are going to struggle to pull out a win. We won't lead every game..and the offense don't seem to have that dynamic to bring us back. When you lose as much as we have its difficult to stay hyped. Week 2 proved that theory.
(09-25-2017, 02:25 PM)Jags4lyfe85 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-25-2017, 04:07 AM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: [ -> ]After watching Tom Brady?
You'd rather have to squeak out a win in the last minute than win 44-7? What are you talking about?
What I ment was his ability to lead a comeback like that. How many wins does BB5 have coming from behind? I was just trying to point out that when we are trailing we are going to struggle to pull out a win. We won't lead every game..and the offense don't seem to have that dynamic to bring us back. When you lose as much as we have its difficult to stay hyped. Week 2 proved that theory.
I get it now.
What you're saying is if we had something comparable to the greatest talent of all time playing QB, we'd be a better team. Profound.
We should totally do that.
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