(10-09-2017, 05:08 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]I really miss the days of the Jags/Steelers annual meetups. Man those were fun times. And though I didn't get to watch the game I followed here on the gameday thread and was excited to read how well our D was doing. I especially liked the comment of how the Steelers fans had their towels to cry into. Hahaha.
I am hoping this Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde business will stop and Mr Hyde comes out and whips everyone's butts from here on out.
Thank you for the great write up and analogy!
I miss those days, too.
This game fits in nicely among my favorite games in the series. Leonard Fournette continued a nice tradition of Jaguars running backs going up to Pittsburgh and running all over that defense.
(10-09-2017, 05:12 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2017, 05:08 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]I really miss the days of the Jags/Steelers annual meetups. Man those were fun times. And though I didn't get to watch the game I followed here on the gameday thread and was excited to read how well our D was doing. I especially liked the comment of how the Steelers fans had their towels to cry into. Hahaha.
I am hoping this Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde business will stop and Mr Hyde comes out and whips everyone's butts from here on out.
Thank you for the great write up and analogy!
I miss those days, too.
This game fits in nicely among my favorite games in the series. Leonard Fournette continued a nice tradition of Jaguars running backs going up to Pittsburgh and running all over that defense.
Didn't we beat them in the snow one year? Or was that Green Bay we beat? I remember everyone talking about how the southern team was going up north and they were going to get beat by the weather alone, never mind the opposing team. Then we went up there and "beat them like a Cherokee drum" as The Rock so eloquently put it, talking to Jason Statham's character in a movie they were in.
The match ups have always been fun. Bill Cowher on the sideline literally spitting mad yelling at players. He was as entertaining as the games.
Man, those were the days. I may have to pull up an old game on youtube and watch it now.....
(10-09-2017, 05:18 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2017, 05:12 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]I miss those days, too.
This game fits in nicely among my favorite games in the series. Leonard Fournette continued a nice tradition of Jaguars running backs going up to Pittsburgh and running all over that defense.
Didn't we beat them in the snow one year? Or was that Green Bay we beat? I remember everyone talking about how the southern team was going up north and they were going to get beat by the weather alone, never mind the opposing team. Then we went up there and "beat them like a Cherokee drum" as The Rock so eloquently put it, talking to Jason Statham's character in a movie they were in.
The match ups have always been fun. Bill Cowher on the sideline literally spitting mad yelling at players. He was as entertaining as the games. Man, those were the days. I may have to pull up an old game on youtube and watch it now.....
Actually we beat both Pittsburgh and Green Bay in the cold at their places, but in two different years.
We beat Green Bay in Lambeau in 2004. The memorable thing about that game is I think it was the coldest (or second to Cincinnati) game in Jaguars history, and that was the game where Darius clotheslined Ferguson.
We beat the Steelers twice in Pittsburgh in the 2007 season. We are the only team to have ever beaten Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh twice in the same season. The first time was in December, and yes that was a snow game. The second game was the playoff game featuring the Garrard scramble late to put the team in FG range to beat them. It shouldn't have been that close, but Garrard let them get back in the game with some INTs.
Another thing that crossed my mind during the early part of the game is Pittsburgh was calling some very gadgety plays to me. They were seeing some success, sure, but I just felt like the stuff they were getting away with wasn't going to work all game. I just have to wonder if there was any level of them being intimidated by our defense coming into the game to where they felt they needed to implement a lot of misdirection to have a chance at winning.
That being said, Brown beat Ramsey on a few occasions which isn't surprising because Brown is an exceptional talent so he's going to make some plays even against the very best the league has to offer.
(10-09-2017, 05:42 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]Another thing that crossed my mind during the early part of the game is Pittsburgh was calling some very gadgety plays to me. They were seeing some success, sure, but I just felt like the stuff they were getting away with wasn't going to work all game. I just have to wonder if there was any level of them being intimidated by our defense coming into the game to where they felt they needed to implement a lot of misdirection to have a chance at winning.
That being said, Brown beat Ramsey on a few occasions which isn't surprising because Brown is an exceptional talent so he's going to make some plays even against the very best the league has to offer.
The reliance on bubble screens was puzzling and excessive, considering there wasn't an abundance of pressure necessitating these quick passes and short routes. In many of those instances, they would have been better served handing it off to Bell.
My biggest takeaway from the game is that this was the first time I saw the Oline consistently open big holes into the second level of the defense.
Hopefully they're hitting their groove.
(10-09-2017, 05:47 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: [ -> ]My biggest takeaway from the game is that this was the first time I saw the Oline consistently open big holes into the second level of the defense.
Hopefully they're hitting their groove.
I saw this more in the second half.
The first half run blocking was worrisome to me and is still a concern overall.
(10-09-2017, 05:24 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2017, 05:18 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Didn't we beat them in the snow one year? Or was that Green Bay we beat? I remember everyone talking about how the southern team was going up north and they were going to get beat by the weather alone, never mind the opposing team. Then we went up there and "beat them like a Cherokee drum" as The Rock so eloquently put it, talking to Jason Statham's character in a movie they were in.
The match ups have always been fun. Bill Cowher on the sideline literally spitting mad yelling at players. He was as entertaining as the games. Man, those were the days. I may have to pull up an old game on youtube and watch it now.....
Actually we beat both Pittsburgh and Green Bay in the cold at their places, but in two different years.
We beat Green Bay in Lambeau in 2004. The memorable thing about that game is I think it was the coldest (or second to Cincinnati) game in Jaguars history, and that was the game where Darius clotheslined Ferguson.
We beat the Steelers twice in Pittsburgh in the 2007 season. We are the only team to have ever beaten Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh twice in the same season. The first time was in December, and yes that was a snow game. The second game was the playoff game featuring the Garrard scramble late to put the team in FG range to beat them. It shouldn't have been that close, but Garrard let them get back in the game with some INTs.
Thank you. I remember these now. Oh, to be that team again. Or one like it. Isn't 2007 the last time we went postseason? I need to look these things up instead of asking but the memories included with the stories are nostalgic! Lol.
I went ahead and looked it up and yes, the last time we were in the playoffs was against Pittsburgh in 2007 for a wildcard game. Dang. 10 freaking years.
(10-09-2017, 06:33 PM)OBullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2017, 02:29 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]I think something that's been overlooked regarding yesterday's game is Nortman pinning them at or inside their own 5 twice in the first half and inside the 20 a couple of other times during the game. That type of field position enables our defense to shine and get turnovers which is exactly what happened. I think if Pittsburgh would have been able to go up by two scores in the first half this could have been a completely different game as we saw what happened to us against Tennessee when they went up 2 scores in the 3rd quarter.
Remember this...?
Quote:6. When Myers missed that extra point, i was not happy. i was certain it would come back to bite us in the butt. However, Special teams as a whole played very well. Myers atoned for his extra point miss with a 48 yard FG in the 2nd half. Nortman was unconscious punting the ball today, putting 3 inside the 20, including 2 inside the 5. The one short punt I recall Nortman having was a 40 yarder with a 6 yard return, but that was mitigated by a penalty against the Steelers. The coverage was good, too.
(Emphasis added)
Like I said, I'm glad you gave credit to Nortman in the OP as he really deserves it.
(10-09-2017, 04:41 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]We should acknowledge how completely idiotic the Steelers gameplan was too. The tweet below was made right when Telvin took the 2nd INT to the house. It obviously got worse from there. Thank god Tomlin turned into Gus Bradley for at least one Sunday.
Warren SharpVerified account @SharpFootball Oct 8
Pittsburgh Steelers just can't think logically or rationally:
JAC #1 pass D
JAC #32 run D
Ben: 33 attempts (2 INTs, 52 RTG)
Bell: 12 carries
I really am starting to believe that Tomlin just isn't a very good football coach. He got a SB with Cowlers talented team, and has never consistently looked good since. Maybe its the GM and they can't replace the talent? Don't know, I just feel like the Steelers and Packers pretty much have always underachieved for the amount of hype they get for at least the last 5 years.
(10-09-2017, 06:38 PM)MoJagFan Wrote: [ -> ]Oh 2007 WRs
https://i.imgur.com/ED2RKXs.jpg
It is more scary when you throw in the TEs
Unless you deal Coke, then it looks pretty alright.
Looking at the various clips, I would be remiss if I did not give credit to Chris Ivory for good pass protection. There were at least 3 times he crossed the QB to pick up a blitzer coming from the opposite side of the formation, giving Bortles time to throw.
Kudos to Ivory.
(10-09-2017, 05:08 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]I really miss the days of the Jags/Steelers annual meetups. Man those were fun times. And though I didn't get to watch the game I followed here on the gameday thread and was excited to read how well our D was doing. I especially liked the comment of how the Steelers fans had their towels to cry into. Hahaha.
I am hoping this Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde business will stop and Mr Hyde comes out and whips everyone's butts from here on out.
Thank you for the great write up and analogy!
Yeah, I miss those times, too. I remember when we got the team, and one of the reasons I was so excited was because we would be able to see these storied franchises like the Steelers here in our stadium. To me, playing the Steelers was always an event that went way beyond season records.
I remember back in 1995 when we hosted the Steelers for the first time, and we hung on to beat them. I vividly remember very late in the game, the Steelers were driving for what would have been the winning score, and Neil O-Donnell floated this pass down field, the ball hanging in the air for what seemed like forever, and at the very last second, Harry Colon got a hand on it and broke it up.
It was a wild scene leaving the stadium. The fans were chanting "Super Bowl! Super Bowl!" We were 3-5 or something like that. We wound up 4-12. Those were great times. We were young and naive and not yet scarred by years of failure. If we won a game, the endorphins flowed for a week.
(10-11-2017, 07:07 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2017, 05:08 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]I really miss the days of the Jags/Steelers annual meetups. Man those were fun times. And though I didn't get to watch the game I followed here on the gameday thread and was excited to read how well our D was doing. I especially liked the comment of how the Steelers fans had their towels to cry into. Hahaha.
I am hoping this Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde business will stop and Mr Hyde comes out and whips everyone's butts from here on out.
Thank you for the great write up and analogy!
Yeah, I miss those times, too. I remember when we got the team, and one of the reasons I was so excited was because we would be able to see these storied franchises like the Steelers here in our stadium. To me, playing the Steelers was always an event that went way beyond season records.
I remember back in 1995 when we hosted the Steelers for the first time, and we hung on to beat them. I vividly remember very late in the game, the Steelers were driving for what would have been the winning score, and Neil O-Donnell floated this pass down field, the ball hanging in the air for what seemed like forever, and at the very last second, Harry Colon got a hand on it and broke it up.
It was a wild scene leaving the stadium. The fans were chanting "Super Bowl! Super Bowl!" We were 3-5 or something like that. We wound up 4-12. Those were great times. We were young and naive and not yet scarred by years of failure. If we won a game, the endorphins flowed for a week.
I'm smiling as I recall that day. Our first home win.
Don Davey had a key sack late to help clinch that game.
TC/Gilbride called a play that beautifully and simply illustrated how formation can create opportunities on a long pass to TE Rich Griffith.
I remember the chants of "Playoffs" on the stadium ramps after the game.
In one of my all time favorite TC press conference moments, when asked about those "playoffs" chants, he chuckled, shook his head and said "God bless the fans."
(10-11-2017, 07:22 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (10-11-2017, 07:07 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, I miss those times, too. I remember when we got the team, and one of the reasons I was so excited was because we would be able to see these storied franchises like the Steelers here in our stadium. To me, playing the Steelers was always an event that went way beyond season records.
I remember back in 1995 when we hosted the Steelers for the first time, and we hung on to beat them. I vividly remember very late in the game, the Steelers were driving for what would have been the winning score, and Neil O-Donnell floated this pass down field, the ball hanging in the air for what seemed like forever, and at the very last second, Harry Colon got a hand on it and broke it up.
It was a wild scene leaving the stadium. The fans were chanting "Super Bowl! Super Bowl!" We were 3-5 or something like that. We wound up 4-12. Those were great times. We were young and naive and not yet scarred by years of failure. If we won a game, the endorphins flowed for a week.
I'm smiling as I recall that day. Our first home win.
Don Davey had a key sack late to help clinch that game.
TC/Gilbride called a play that beautifully and simply illustrated how formation can create opportunities on a long pass to TE Rich Griffith.
I remember the chants of "Playoffs" on the stadium ramps after the game.
In one of my all time favorite TC press conference moments, when asked about those "playoffs" chants, he chuckled, shook his head and said "God bless the fans."
Wow, Don Davey, Rich Griffith, offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride. Those are some great memories. Those were the days when everything was brand new, and we were just happy to have a team.