(10-11-2017, 01:28 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: [ -> ]We're also 5th in the league in scoring, and first in point differential.
This statistic is misleading. It gives one the impression we did not lose by double digits against Tennessee, which is important. Point differential
per game is more accurate.
(10-11-2017, 02:11 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: [ -> ] (10-11-2017, 01:28 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: [ -> ]We're also 5th in the league in scoring, and first in point differential.
This statistic is misleading. It gives one the impression we did not lose by double digits against Tennessee, which is important. Point differential per game is more accurate.
If we lead the league in point differential, then we lead the league in point differential per game. That’s how math works.
Unless you mean the actual specific score of the tacks game individually set aside, in which case I don’t think you quite grasp the ‘point’ of point differential to begin with.
Granted, it’s importance as a stat typically holds more weight the larger the sample size, and we’re only 5 games deep, but it’s still a very good thing to be leading in.
(10-11-2017, 02:25 PM)RedRooster28 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-11-2017, 02:11 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: [ -> ]This statistic is misleading. It gives one the impression we did not lose by double digits against Tennessee, which is important. Point differential per game is more accurate.
If we lead the league in point differential, then we lead the league in point differential per game. That’s how math works.
Unless you mean the actual specific score of the tacks game individually set aside, in which case I don’t think you quite grasp the ‘point’ of point differential to begin with.
Granted, it’s importance as a stat typically holds more weight the larger the sample size, and we’re only 5 games deep, but it’s still a very good thing to be leading in.
Well that's not true since teams have been on a BYE already. Meaning if the Jags have a point differential of 50 in 5 games, their differential per game is +10. But if a team has played 4 games and has a point differential of +44, they are +11 per game.
I believe that's how math works.
(10-11-2017, 10:14 AM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]To keep it in perspective. We faced Tom Savage and fresh off the bench rookie Watson. Then we got tossed up by TEN. Then we beat an over rated Ravens team with no receivers, no RB, over hyped defense, then we lose to McCown. Then Ben had his worst game ever.
Seriously not being a downer. I just hope it's not a fluke like the Vikings started out last year.
I think after the Rams game I'll feel more comfortable with where we truly are. Gurley might go for 200 and 4 TDs. While Goff goes for 95 yards. They could beat us at our own game.
Maybe.... just MAYBE..... our defense was partially responsible for Ben having the worst game of his career.
i've decided to withhold judgement on the passing game until Westbrook comes back.
(10-11-2017, 07:37 PM)realtorpat Wrote: [ -> ]I've decided to withhold judgement on the passing game until Westbrook comes back.
I will withhold judgment on our passing game until Allen Robinson comes back.
(10-11-2017, 02:37 PM)Frailbones Wrote: [ -> ] (10-11-2017, 02:25 PM)RedRooster28 Wrote: [ -> ]If we lead the league in point differential, then we lead the league in point differential per game. That’s how math works.
Unless you mean the actual specific score of the tacks game individually set aside, in which case I don’t think you quite grasp the ‘point’ of point differential to begin with.
Granted, it’s importance as a stat typically holds more weight the larger the sample size, and we’re only 5 games deep, but it’s still a very good thing to be leading in.
Well that's not true since teams have been on a BYE already. Meaning if the Jags have a point differential of 50 in 5 games, their differential per game is +10. But if a team has played 4 games and has a point differential of +44, they are +11 per game.
I believe that's how math works.
Guess I should’ve inserted the disclaimer “over a 16 game season” for the more dense/desperate for attention crowd. Give yourself a hand there.
(10-10-2017, 04:26 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: [ -> ] (10-10-2017, 04:21 PM)rufftime Wrote: [ -> ]Really shows how useless it is to have yards allowed as the primary ranking of a defense.
The only defensive statistics that matter are takeaways (we are #1) and points allowed. However, if we don't give up yards, the opponents are unlikely to score.
scores by opposing defense they can get safeties,pick sixes and fumbles
(10-11-2017, 02:37 PM)Frailbones Wrote: [ -> ] (10-11-2017, 02:25 PM)RedRooster28 Wrote: [ -> ]If we lead the league in point differential, then we lead the league in point differential per game. That’s how math works.
Unless you mean the actual specific score of the tacks game individually set aside, in which case I don’t think you quite grasp the ‘point’ of point differential to begin with.
Granted, it’s importance as a stat typically holds more weight the larger the sample size, and we’re only 5 games deep, but it’s still a very good thing to be leading in.
Well that's not true since teams have been on a BYE already. Meaning if the Jags have a point differential of 50 in 5 games, their differential per game is +10. But if a team has played 4 games and has a point differential of +44, they are +11 per game.
I believe that's how math works.
The Dolphins*, Buccaneers*, Falcons, Redskins, Saints, and Broncos had their bye weeks already. We will not have an accurate number until Week 12 (after the Buccaneers/Dolphins game) based on that math. It would be much easier in normal years, when all 32 teams play in Week 1.
Rooster, I was thinking the overall point differential gives one the false impression that we don't allow any teams to score 38 points on us. That does not mean we should omit a loss.
I will feel better when we actually put two wins in a row on paper. With all the good play, we have not done that yet. Maybe this week, maybe.
(10-11-2017, 10:31 PM)jseymour Wrote: [ -> ]I will feel better when we actually put two wins in a row on paper. With all the good play, we have not done that yet. Maybe this week, maybe.
I will be surprised if we lose.
(10-11-2017, 02:04 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: [ -> ] (10-11-2017, 12:36 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not sure whether you're arguing with me or agreeing with me. I'm not exactly sure if your head is in the sand or not but I'm pretty sure it's somewhere it's not supposed to be.
Hint: I never said the Rams were a bad team, in fact, I said they were better than average in another post.
I thought you were saying the Rams are a bad team and losing to them by 2 TDs would make people think our win at Pittsburgh was a fluke. I must have missed the other post.
No my point was that a loss would probably change the narrative that this team is legit unless it was a close hard fought game with a last second score by the Rams. A loss would continue the trend of win one, lose one and it would be yet another home loss. That doesn't sound very legit to me.
I don't think the Rams being considered a good team really matters. They're flying across the country and Jags fans are expecting the Jags to come out strong at home and win it. What if they don't though? Will confidence remain high that this team is legit if that's the case? That's why I think this game will reveal a lot about this team.
(10-11-2017, 11:14 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ] (10-11-2017, 02:04 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: [ -> ]I thought you were saying the Rams are a bad team and losing to them by 2 TDs would make people think our win at Pittsburgh was a fluke. I must have missed the other post.
No my point was that a loss would probably change the narrative that this team is legit unless it was a close hard fought game with a last second score by the Rams. A loss would continue the trend of win one, lose one and it would be yet another home loss. That doesn't sound very legit to me.
I don't think the Rams being considered a good team really matters. They're flying across the country and Jags fans are expecting the Jags to come out strong at home and win it. What if they don't though? Will confidence remain high that this team is legit if that's the case? That's why I think this game will reveal a lot about this team.
Alternating wins and losses is a schedule fluke. If we played against the Texans, Ravens, and Steelers, then the Titans and Jets, we would have winning and losing streaks.
What really matters in terms of being legit is being able to play two good games in a row, not just winning them. If we win despite making more mistakes by the Rams, people aren't as likely to take us seriously as if we do most things right and lose on one play. That is what I would want to see if I was just watching games with no team preference.
(10-11-2017, 07:39 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: [ -> ] (10-11-2017, 07:37 PM)realtorpat Wrote: [ -> ]I've decided to withhold judgement on the passing game until Westbrook comes back.
I will withhold judgment on our passing game until Allen Robinson comes back.
Lol... come this time next year you'll realize how much footage you missed out on Westbrook at Oklahoma. Dude is going to put Robinson to shame as long as he stays healthy and out of trouble. Robinson was already pretty questionable with all of his drama last year, giving up on plays, dropping passes etc... now he's got an ACL injury along with it? Damaged goods. See ya AR15.
(10-12-2017, 10:41 AM)Tyler1Reformed Wrote: [ -> ] (10-11-2017, 07:39 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: [ -> ]I will withhold judgment on our passing game until Allen Robinson comes back.
LOL. Come this time next year you'll realize how much footage you missed out on Westbrook at Oklahoma. Dude is going to put Robinson to shame as long as he stays healthy and out of trouble. Robinson was already pretty questionable with all of his drama last year, giving up on plays, dropping passes etc... now he's got an ACL injury along with it? Damaged goods. See ya AR15.
Last year everyone talked about how WRs were dropping passes because Blake Bortles regressed and stuff like that.
(10-12-2017, 10:41 AM)Tyler1Reformed Wrote: [ -> ] (10-11-2017, 07:39 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: [ -> ]I will withhold judgment on our passing game until Allen Robinson comes back.
Lol... come this time next year you'll realize how much footage you missed out on Westbrook at Oklahoma. Dude is going to put Robinson to shame as long as he stays healthy and out of trouble. Robinson was already pretty questionable with all of his drama last year, giving up on plays, dropping passes etc... now he's got an ACL injury along with it? Damaged goods. See ya AR15.
I am very excited for Westbrook but I don't discount Robinson at all. Both players on the field at the same time could be really good. Hurns in the slot?
Let Lee walk and start next season with:
1. Arob
2. Westbrook
3. Hurns
4. Vet
5. Rookie