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Quote:At my age I have to be careful about those. Sometimes a thought could turn into plaster.

Shoot as old as you are, Id imagine just about every toots a gamble at this point.

Quote:Shoot as old as you are, Id imagine just about every toots a gamble at this point.

 

Well... sometimes you "just know" that it's safe.  Other times it could get...  "messy".

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Haha. SOP really.

I would think you need the core of your team to be playoff ready when you sign the future franchise QB for development and salary cap. Its pretty obvious you need as many years as possible with a first contract QB salary if you want to sustain championship appearances. You can't do that trying to build from nothing signing your Qb in the first year.. It would be much much better to sign your furture QB in the 3rd or 4th year of the rebuild. 

 

I wasn't trying to say they chose Blake and Gus to fail,.. just that we as fans (most of us) were thinking this was say 4-5 years and we were competing for a Superbowl.. a lot of people felt that way. In reality it was more like 5-7 years and there was no 100% expectation Blake was really the guy for a Superbowl 

 

Put it this way, Dave Caldwell isn't going anywhere under any circumstance. He is fully aware of the pivots that would be necessary if these 2 extremely important picks weren't the guys. He knew it 3 years ago. 

 

Do you think Carr would have played as many games as Blake under the O-Line we had each of those years? 

 

If we had a bad media coach how do you think the fans would have responded after all those losses the last 3 years?

 

Do you think Caldwell got his job by being less informed of his job than you?

Quote:Hear me out. I've always had the thought from the start of this rebuild and watching the first couple of years, that Bradley and Bortles weren't really who Caldwell thought would be the long term guys. I say this for a few reasons.


1. When you are starting over from scratch, considering the salary cap years into the rebuild. Its not optimal to have the QB hitting a major contract exactly when you think you might be seriously competing. I say this because its more important for the overall team to be a bit more experienced and advanced in the system to allow the young QB to develop correctly. This way you are able to extend the contracts of your core players before signing away a huge chunk of cap space for the QB.


2. Bradley was the perfect coach to move the fans and media through something that's only been done a few times in any sport, a total rebuild. His personality was what was needed to keep hype going and not lose the fan base completely. Bortles is a large QB that was chosen to be the Qb for the rebuild for his durability, Blake was not the best QB in the draft but physically the most reliable. The last thing you need during the rebuild is what the Browns have going and that's never knowing who your Qb will be week to week. In short Bortles is reliable to play every Sunday and they needed that. Obviously if these 2 guys work out that's great, but i don't think Dave actually put his eggs in these baskets.


3. The way this is all playing out is perfect. Next year we bring in the actual coach, the players will have developed and we sign/draft the future QB. The team now has a great foundation of players and a proven coach that can develop the Qb and by the 2nd or 3rd year into his contract, the overall team will be elite with a young promising Qb to take them into the playoffs or further.


Wave to Seattle everyone.


My theory is all about managing the cap space.


My thoughts aren't complete here. i was bored and had a few minutes.

Lay off the OP after what I've seen the last few years I'm starting to create fairy tales in my head aswel.


One thing I will say it makes no sense firing gus in the season, he's leading us to a top 5 pick for the new coach.