Bruce Arians might have to start Blaine Gabbert and he's OK with it... cuz Gabbert wasn't so much a bad QB as he was just on bad teams.
I laughed. Hell, in his head, he mighta chuckled a bit too. But then I read this bit off the PFT article.
Gabbert was drafted by the Jaguars in 2011 and spent three years in Jacksonville, then was traded to San Francisco and played three years for the 49ers. He was never on a team with a winning record, and that was far from only his fault: Last year the 49ers went 1-4 while Gabbert was starting and 1-10 with
Colin Kaepernick starting, and the year before the 49ers went 3-5 while Gabbert was starting and 2-6 while Colin Kaepernick was starting. His three years in Jacksonville his teams went a combined 5-22 in games he started and a combined 4-17 in games he didn’t start.
In the final 2 seasons where they shared a roster, Gabs had a 4-9 record as starter... everyone's favorite SJW Kap? 3-16
In 6 more games as starter, Kap mustered 1 fewer wins? Geez...
But what about them J-Ville days? 5 wins in 27 games, VS 4 in 21
How bad was Gabbert actually? (I know... we watched him... he was bad...) but it was made worse by the lack of talent around him, especially on the OL. We obviously weren't any better without him
Perhaps Gabbert can save the Arizona season?
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He threw a pretty spiral and had good arm strength. His issues were all decision making and confidence related. A top 10 quarterback would have willed his team to wins in more of those games. Gabbert wasn't top 10, nor was he top 20 and if you're not top 20 by year 3 it's time to find your replacement which we did.
If we could just put Gabbert’s arm on Bortles we would be set.
Gabbert isn't a top 60 guy. He just doesn't have it between the ears. He works hard, he wants to be good, but something deep inside won't let him. I saw that article as well and the first thing I thought of was how we had a top 5 D and the league rushing leader in MJD during his first year. How much more help did he want? Then we had Blackmon his 2nd and 3rd year. Gabbs had some help, he just wasn't any good. Seems like he was slightly better in San Fran, but still a backup level player.
(11-16-2017, 01:49 PM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote: [ -> ]Gabbert isn't a top 60 guy. He just doesn't have it between the ears. He works hard, he wants to be good, but something deep inside won't let him. I saw that article as well and the first thing I thought of was how we had a top 5 D and the league rushing leader in MJD during his first year. How much more help did he want? Then we had Blackmon his 2nd and 3rd year. Gabbs had some help, he just wasn't any good. Seems like he was slightly better in San Fran, but still a backup level player.
Totally agree.
My whole post was a tongue in cheek sort of thing.
I know Arians can't trash his QB that is about to start... but someone should have asked him "If Gabs ain't that bad... why was Stanton starting over him?"
He said Gabbert was on terrible teams and that is exactly how I remember it.
I still remember Gabbert's #1 receiver, Jason Hill, trying to body catch a jump ball deep down the field and being cut the same week, right along with Del Rio.
Gabbert had the physical abilities.
I'm sure he knew what to do and when to do it, but he was so easily flustered (by almost anything) that he's unable to do it in practically any given situation.
I think that Blaine Gabbert had the potential to be a good QB.
However, he got thrown into the game way before he was ready and it overwhelmed him. It certainly doesn't help him to be playing on some pretty bad teams. He was pretty much ruined early in his career.
(11-16-2017, 10:41 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]I think that Blaine Gabbert had the potential to be a good QB.
However, he got thrown into the game way before he was ready and it overwhelmed him. It certainly doesn't help him to be playing on some pretty bad teams. He was pretty much ruined early in his career.
Yeah I’d pretty much agree with that.
You can't coach heart or courage.
Gonna get a good look at what we let go...
What might have been
lol
Gabbert lacked the courage to try and fit balls into tight places or throw an improbable ball. That can be a good or bad thing, but on bad teams that lack big plays, it really sticks out. He needed a clean pocket to feel the confidence to step up and make contested throws. On a good team, he would be a very competent game manager. He won't lose you games. On a bad team, he is just another part of the problem.
(11-17-2017, 04:29 PM)FreeAgent01 Wrote: [ -> ]Gabbert lacked the courage to try and fit balls into tight places or throw an improbable ball. That can be a good or bad thing, but on bad teams that lack big plays, it really sticks out. He needed a clean pocket to feel the confidence to step up and make contested throws. On a good team, he would be a very competent game manager. He won't lose you games. On a bad team, he is just another part of the problem.
Sounds familiar...
(11-16-2017, 01:12 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]He threw a pretty spiral and had good arm strength. His issues were all decision making and confidence related. A top 10 quarterback would have willed his team to wins in more of those games. Gabbert wasn't top 10, nor was he top 20 and if you're not top 20 by year 3 it's time to find your replacement which we did.
We will never know if Gabbert could have become a good QB. The teams we put him on were so bad, he just got beaten to death. For a guy with a reputation of shying away from a pass rush, to put him behind the offensive lines we put him behind was a perfect recipe for ruining a young QB.
I will never forget how painfully embarrassing it was to watch him play. Maybe i'm being harsh, but to me, I think it's laughable that people would defend this guy as potentially being better than Bortles...
They both are mediocre, but I STILL have nightmares of Gabbert being this team's starting QB. Bring it on. I'd love to see this guy try to pass on this Jags secondary, with a nasty pass rush in his face.
Gabbert had the arm, the mobility and he knew the playbook very well. He even seemed like he got respect amongst the locker room. His main problem was just that he would feel phantom pressure all the time which would screw his mechanics up
He threw the prettiest balls to Cecil Shorts...
... Gawd I'm so glad we are beyond that era
(11-18-2017, 12:30 PM)Fred Jones-Brunell Wrote: [ -> ]Gabbert had the arm, the mobility and he knew the playbook very well. He even seemed like he got respect amongst the locker room. His main problem was just that he would feel phantom pressure all the time which would screw his mechanics up
Sometimes he would feel phantom pressure, but it was understandable why- he was getting routinely pummeled behind a bad offensive line. To draft a quarterback and put him behind a bad offensive line is a surefire formula for failure. After they get hit from behind 8 or 10 times, it's only natural they feel pressure when there isn't any. Any quarterback would do that.