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Quote:Ohio St. makes the playoffs if they win out. No question about it.
 

Definitely. And the BTCG probably will be a rematch of Saturday night.
Quote:It's not impossible. 11-1 Michigan would make the playoffs over a 2 loss Pac 12 or Big 12 champion if it came down to that.
 

Michigan must win the BTCG to get in the playoffs. Getting that opportunity requires giving the Buckeyes their second loss, which would knock them out of playoff contention. Only one of those teams can get in.

Quote:Ohio St. makes the playoffs if they win out. No question about it.


Yeah, that's what I meant (I should've been clearer).


OSU would obviously be in the playoffs if they win out and are Big10 Champs.


I was asking about Michigan being only a 1 loss team still making it in. I would think they do.
Quote:Yeah, that's what I meant (I should've been clearer).


OSU would obviously be in the playoffs if they win out and are Big10 Champs.


I was asking about Michigan being only a 1 loss team still making it in. I would think they do.
 

If Michigan loses one game before November 26 and beats Ohio State, then wins the BTCG, yes.

 

If Michigan's loss is at Ohio State, no way.
Quote:If Michigan loses one game before November 26 and beats Ohio State, then wins the BTCG, yes.


If Michigan's loss is at Ohio State, no way.


Possibly.

However, depending on the other teams records (Clemson getting a loss, Washington, etc.) It still could be very possible for Michigan to get in.


If Michigan's only loss is at OSU (especially if it was a very good game), they would still be one of the best 4 teams in the country. It's possible IMO.
Quote:Yeah, that's what I meant (I should've been clearer).


OSU would obviously be in the playoffs if they win out and are Big10 Champs.


I was asking about Michigan being only a 1 loss team still making it in. I would think they do.
 

If Michigan has 1 loss at Columbus, then you will have a trio of teams with similar resumes.

 

TAMU with a loss at Alabama.

Louisville with a loss at Clemson.

Michigan with a loss at Ohio St.

 

 

If Washington doesn't win the PAC 12 Championship game or loses two games before the CCG, one of those teams will get in.

 

 

If TAMU loses to LSU, that fourth spot will be between Michigan and Louisville and flip a coin I guess.
Quote:If Michigan loses one game before November 26 and beats Ohio State, then wins the BTCG, yes.

 

If Michigan's loss is at Ohio State, no way.
 

Clemson wins out

Alabama wins out

Ohio St. wins out

 

TAMU loses to LSU.

Louisville loses to Houston

Washington loses to Cal and Colorado (in the Pac 12 CCG)

 

 

What are your 4 playoff teams?
Quote:Clemson wins out

Alabama wins out

Ohio St. wins out

 

TAMU loses to LSU.

Louisville loses to Houston

Washington loses to Cal and Colorado (in the Pac 12 CCG)

 

 

What are your 4 playoff teams?
 

Washington and Colorado are in the same division. They can't meet in the CCG .

 

How about looking at the entire remaining TAMU, Lousville, and Washington schedules instead of cherry picking?
Quote:Washington and Colorado are in the same division. They can't meet in the CCG .

 

How about looking at the entire remaining TAMU, Lousville, and Washington schedules instead of cherry picking?
 

Washington and Colorado aren't in the same division. Stop lying.

 

 

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That was not a lie. I read when the divisions were created they put Colorado in the North.

Quote:That was not a lie. I read when the divisions were created they put Colorado in the North.
 

You're wrong (no shock there).
To answer your question, I highly doubt Washington loses to Cal.

Quote:To answer your question, I highly doubt Washington loses to Cal.
 

Answer the question using the scenario I provided. Stop making up your own scenario.

Hail, you think if it cam between Louisville and Michigan with identical records (assuming Clemson and OSU win out) that Louisville gets in above Mich?


Idk.


Intersting.
Jagherd, Hail is obviously just trying to make me admit Michigan should be a playoff team regardless of who wins the Big Ten championship. The reality is - and he has to know this by now - only conference champions can get in because of the four-team format.

 

Michigan is certainly deserving of a playoff spot, but I am 100% opposed to letting a team that can't win its own division get in the playoffs. It is not like the NFL with four wild card teams.

Quote:Hail, you think if it cam between Louisville and Michigan with identical records (assuming Clemson and OSU win out) that Louisville gets in above Mich?


Idk.


Intersting.
 

Coin flip. Depends on how close the Michigan @ Ohio St. game is maybe.

 

Michigan would have better wins, but Louisville would have the "better loss".
Here's a thought though,


What if neither OSU or Michigan win the Big10 championship game?


Obviously, OSU would have 2 losses.

Michigan? What if they make it to the Conference Championship game, but somehow get beat by Wisconsin?


It's not out of the realm of possibility, seeing as Wisconsin played both teams closely (nearly beating OSU).


If Clemson, Bama, Washington finish undefeated; who gets the 4th spot? 1 loss Louisville (even though they didn't win their conference)?

2 loss Oklahoma (assuming they win the Big 12)?


Who gets it?

It's entirely possible a 1 loss team that didn't win their Conference championship gets in this year.
Quote:Jagherd, Hail is obviously just trying to make me admit Michigan should be a playoff team regardless of who wins the Big Ten championship. The reality is - and he has to know this by now - only conference champions can get in because of the four-team format.

 

Michigan is certainly deserving of a playoff spot, but I am 100% opposed to letting a team that can't win its own division get in the playoffs. It is not like the NFL with four wild card teams.
 

No. Michigan shouldn't get in over a 0 or 1 loss Pac 12 Champion.

 

I'm saying that Michigan should get in over a 2 loss Pac 12 Champion.

 

 

 

If Colorado wins the Pac 12, they shouldn't get in over 1 loss Michigan. Compare their resumes and you'd be stupid to argue for Colorado.
Quote:Here's a thought though,


What if neither OSU or Michigan win the Big10 championship game?


Obviously, OSU would have 2 losses.

Michigan? What if they make it to the Conference Championship game, but somehow get beat by Wisconsin?


It's not out of the realm of possibility, seeing as Wisconsin played both teams closely (nearly beating OSU).


If Clemson, Bama, Washington finish undefeated; who gets the 4th spot? 1 loss Louisville (even though they didn't win their conference)?

2 loss Oklahoma (assuming they win the Big 12)?


Who gets it?

It's entirely possible a 1 loss team that didn't win their Conference championship gets in this year.
 

It certainly is possible that a 1 loss team that didn't win their conference gets in. Especially if Colorado wins the Pac 12.

Quote:Here's a thought though,


What if neither OSU or Michigan win the Big 10 championship game?


Obviously, OSU would have 2 losses.

Michigan? What if they make it to the Conference Championship game, but somehow get beat by Wisconsin?


It's not out of the realm of possibility, seeing as Wisconsin played both teams closely (nearly beating OSU).


If Clemson, Bama, Washington finish undefeated; who gets the 4th spot? 1 loss Louisville (even though they didn't win their conference)?

2 loss Oklahoma (assuming they win the Big 12)?


Who gets it?

It's entirely possible a 1 loss team that didn't win their Conference championship gets in this year.
 

Wisconsin has two losses, but owns the tiebreaker over Nebraska;. If 1-loss Nebraska wins out, Wisconsin has no chance. Nebraska's best chance of losing again is Saturday night in Columbus. Then we have a 2-loss team (if Ohio State beats Nebraska) in the in the BTCG. The interesting scenario here is what if the 2-loss West winner beats the undefeated or one-loss East winner? That is where it gets tricky.

 

One thing I have noticed is for the first time, nobody said the Big 10 is a weak conference all season. If the CFPC wants to put two Big 10 teams in, fewer people will complain than when TCU and Baylor were not selected because Ohio State won an actual CCG.

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