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Quote:Yeah, I agree. Illegals with no ID should be able to vote.

 

A photo ID is required to register. How can you vote without being registered?

 

Quote:Do you have an ID?

 

Of course I do.

Quote:A photo ID is required to register. How can you vote without being registered?

 


 

Of course I do.

Because you need an ID to apply for and receive your benefits, right? The argument is always that poor people don't have identification because they can't afford it, but you need identification to apply for any kind of public assistance, to prove who you are when you use your Medicaid card...etc. Unless you're homeless or illegal, you can't get through life without having identification. Why should voting be any different?

"because supression"

 

/ignorance

Quote:Then Republicans make up reasons to make people believe Democrats are the frauds. I always opposed voter ID laws because they reduce voter turnout.

 

If you look at the predominance of voter fraud being reported (that democrats say doesn't exist), it's linked to democrats almost exclusively.  Not entirely, but the vast majority (democrats deny it exits).  

 

You have always opposed the basic requirement of someone proving they are who they say they are by providing an ID?  I know the Mark Brunells on this board say it is disenfranchisement, but you need an ID to cash a check, buy alcohol, drive a car, and in many instances, to use a credit card.  You need your ID in all sorts of circumstances to prove you are who you say you are, and rightfully so.  State issued IDs are not so difficult to obtain that this oppresses anyone's ability to vote, but you still oppose requiring someone to prove they are who they say they are?

 

Suppose someone comes to your house, knocks on your door, and says he's the cable guy there to fix a problem with the wiring in your house.  Do you let him in because he says he's the cable guy?  Or, do you look for some form of ID?  

I know it may be asking too much from those happy to be low information, but if you would like to comment on the article posted below please read completely and for comprehension first.

 

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewS...sp?id=2143

Quote:Because you need an ID to apply for and receive your benefits, right? The argument is always that poor people don't have identification because they can't afford it, but you need identification to apply for any kind of public assistance, to prove who you are when you use your Medicaid card...etc. Unless you're homeless or illegal, you can't get through life without having identification. Why should voting be any different?

In most states, the cost for a state ID is minimal, or in the case of someone who is financially unable to pay for it, free.  It depends on the state, but even the most expensive states charge less than $30 for a state ID, which is required to apply for any sort of state or federal assistance.  

Quote:I know it may be asking too much from those happy to be low information, but if you would like to comment on the article posted below please read completely and for comprehension first.

 

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewS...sp?id=2143

That article refers to them as the political left.  I think we need to clarify that we're talking about Mark Brunells here.

Quote:The automobile industry has this specifically written in the union contract. Now Spotify, Patagonia, and many small retailers are following suit.

 

http://www.aol.com/article/finance/2016/...ws-main-bb

 

Many companies/industries have been doing this for years.  Some of the companies that I've worked for used to do so because of our work shifts (7am - 7pm).

Quote:In most states, the cost for a state ID is minimal, or in the case of someone who is financially unable to pay for it, free.  It depends on the state, but even the most expensive states charge less than $30 for a state ID, which is required to apply for any sort of state or federal assistance.  

 

It is not about money. I read articles about people not having their votes counted despite being on the voter rolls just because they had to use "provisional ballots," which were invented by Republicans. This wasn't voter fraud. It was caused by the voter ID law.

Quote:It is not about money. I read articles about people not having their votes counted despite being on the voter rolls just because they had to use "provisional ballots," which were invented by Republicans. This wasn't voter fraud. It was caused by the voter ID law.

 

If they don't have an ID to prove who they are, those provisional ballots are the only way they can cast a ballot.  Simple fix.  Bring a stinking ID with you.  As I pointed out, it's not difficult to get one and the cost is minimal, and in some instances, completely free.

 

I guess in your little world, we should just take their word for it that they are who they say they are, right?  I'm sure nobody would dare lie about such things, right?

Quote:It is not about money. I read articles about people not having their votes counted despite being on the voter rolls just because they had to use "provisional ballots," which were invented by Republicans. This wasn't voter fraud. It was caused by the voter ID law.

The only way a provisional ballot is not counted is if they are unable to verify that the person is eligible to vote in the first place.

Quote:The only way a provisional ballot is not counted is if they are unable to verify that the person is eligible to vote in the first place.

 

And what's the easiest way to verify that the person is eligible?

Quote:And what's the easiest way to verify that the person is eligible?

Blood test? Forced catheterization?

Quote:And what's the easiest way to verify that the person is eligible?

That would be an ID.

I don't know about other places, but when I go vote I always present my voter ID card as well as a photo ID.

Quote:That would be an ID.

IUD you say?

Quote:Blood test? Forced catheterization?

 

I cringed at the thought of a catheterization.  Yikes!

Quote:I don't know about other places, but when I go vote I always present my voter ID card as well as a photo ID.

When I went to vote last week, I had to provide my driver's license, which was promptly swiped, and my information was verified.  I feel so disenfranchised.

Quote:If they don't have an ID to prove who they are, those provisional ballots are the only way they can cast a ballot.  Simple fix.  Bring a stinking ID with you.  As I pointed out, it's not difficult to get one and the cost is minimal, and in some instances, completely free.

 

I guess in your little world, we should just take their word for it that they are who they say they are, right?  I'm sure nobody would dare lie about such things, right?

 

My whole point is before there was a voter ID law, it was guaranteed all votes would count. Republicans knowingly made votes not count by making voters present IDs. It was clearly a partisan move to take away our democracy.

Quote:My whole point is before there was a voter ID law, it was guaranteed all votes would count. Republicans knowingly made votes not count by making voters present IDs. It was clearly a partisan move to take away our democracy.

 

nope