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(11-25-2017, 10:30 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2017, 07:05 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]There still isn't many QBs I'd take over Dak if I was starting a franchise tomorrow.

Really? I can name a ton easily. 

Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Roethilsberger
Wilson
Stafford
Ryan 
Newton
Wentz
Cousins
Watson
Mariota
Smith
Dalton
Flacco
Keenum 
Goff

I mean, outside of Arizona's, Buffalo's, Denver and Cleveland's and Tampa Bay's situation at QB including ours as well I am not all that impressed with Dak. He's proving to be a game manager at best with Elliot in the line-up and now he's proving to be a liability without Elliot in the line up. I understand it's his second year. But he's got some serious doubts now and questions that must be answered at some point. Even if this team were a play-off caliber team this year at some point he would have to face a stout defense that takes Elliot out of the game anyway and he would be forced to win it with his abilities. Didn't Denver expose this back in week two this year?Agree with all them except Mariota, Mariota is trash

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(11-25-2017, 08:26 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-25-2017, 10:30 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Really? I can name a ton easily. 

Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Roethilsberger
Wilson
Stafford
Ryan 
Newton
Wentz
Cousins
Watson
Mariota
Smith
Dalton
Flacco
Keenum 
Goff

I mean, outside of Arizona's, Buffalo's, Denver and Cleveland's and Tampa Bay's situation at QB including ours as well I am not all that impressed with Dak. He's proving to be a game manager at best with Elliot in the line-up and now he's proving to be a liability without Elliot in the line up. I understand it's his second year. But he's got some serious doubts now and questions that must be answered at some point. Even if this team were a play-off caliber team this year at some point he would have to face a stout defense that takes Elliot out of the game anyway and he would be forced to win it with his abilities. Didn't Denver expose this back in week two this year?

Agree with all them except Mariota, Mariota trash

(11-25-2017, 04:55 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Dak is who we thought he was. A rookie who's offensive line made him look 10x better than he was. The same applies for guys like Carr.

The Cowboys aren't genius. he is playing to his draft position.

This x1000.  He had the best oline in football, one of the best RBs, a good veteran TE, a number 1 WR and a few other decent WR.  If Carr and Dak played with Blake's rookie supporting cast they wouldnt of looked much better if any.

(11-25-2017, 10:30 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2017, 07:05 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]There still isn't many QBs I'd take over Dak if I was starting a franchise tomorrow.

Really? I can name a ton easily. 

Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Roethilsberger
Wilson
Stafford
Ryan 
Newton
Wentz
Cousins
Watson
Mariota
Smith
Dalton
Flacco
Keenum 
Goff

I mean, outside of Arizona's, Buffalo's, Denver and Cleveland's and Tampa Bay's situation at QB including ours as well I am not all that impressed with Dak. He's proving to be a game manager at best with Elliot in the line-up and now he's proving to be a liability without Elliot in the line up. I understand it's his second year. But he's got some serious doubts now and questions that must be answered at some point. Even if this team were a play-off caliber team this year at some point he would have to face a stout defense that takes Elliot out of the game anyway and he would be forced to win it with his abilities. Didn't Denver expose this back in week two this year?

Figured the old guys wouldn't be included in a "starting franchise with" scenario. I'll go through your list. Would of course take prime Brady and Brees over Dak.


Brady (Of course but too old)
Rodgers (Yep easily) 
Brees (Old but yeah)
Roethilsberger (Old) 
Wilson (Yep)
Stafford (Yep)
Ryan (Yep)
Newton (Nope)
Wentz (Yep)
Cousins (Fairly even to me)
Watson (Yep)
Mariota (Nope)
Smith (Nope)
Dalton (Not a hope) 
Flacco (Jesus no)
Keenum (No way)
Goff (Nope, need to see more)

Lol more than one person really said Flacco, Dalton, and Smith to start a franchise with over Dak? I don't have words...

(11-25-2017, 10:53 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Lol more than one person really said Flacco, Dalton, and Smith to start a franchise with over Dak? I don't have words...

Reminds me of more than half the things you say.

(11-25-2017, 11:51 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]I'd take Goff over Dak.

Wouldn't mind too much either way. Just would like to see another season of Goff ballin

(11-25-2017, 11:13 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-25-2017, 10:53 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Lol more than one person really said Flacco, Dalton, and Smith to start a franchise with over Dak? I don't have words...

Reminds me of more than half the things you say.

Considering how drenched in bias aka fandom most things around here are, I can understand that someone who speaks honestly and without such emotions would be confounding.