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I'd like to note that nobody has said he's a better runner, but that he has the second most yards per run. Stop building your strawman and learn to read.

You do realize that his ypc.is 4.8 not even top ten. But also he has over 500 more carriers then bortles. No one is saying bortles is a.better scrambler then.vick and Cunningham, but carreer ypc he is almost a 2 more ypc.

Cunningham had designed bootlegs, bortles doesn't.lets give blake 7 more years than compare.

My point is Bortles is not a running QB. But he has to cause is not very accurate.

And that stat on carries is invalid as well. Once he left the eagles he had no choice but to be a pure pocket passer. Cause in those days defenders could actually hit and was brutal. What they can't do now a days.

And. Cunningham had several knee surgeries due to that fact. If Bortles tried that back in the day like today. He would t be around long.

I love when people throw in all time stats. And don't realize the game today is basically one step down from two hand touch. Compared to the nastiest hits ever back in the day. And call that valid.


All these excuses for Blake when is not a good QB. Not a good runner nor passer. But it is what it is. And hopefully he finds some spark come playoff time.

The thread title police is at it again

(12-02-2017, 01:38 PM)Teal Time Radio Wrote: [ -> ]My point is Bortles is not a running QB.  But he has to cause is not very accurate.  

And that stat on carries is invalid as well.  Once he left the eagles he had no choice but to be a pure pocket passer.  Cause in those days defenders could actually hit and was brutal.  What they can't do now a days.  

And. Cunningham had several knee surgeries  due to that fact.  If Bortles tried that back in the day like today.  He would t be around long.  

I love when people throw in all time stats. And don't realize the game today is basically one step down from two hand touch.  Compared to the nastiest hits ever back in the day. And call that valid.


All these excuses for Blake when is not a good QB. Not a good runner nor passer.  But it is what it is.   And hopefully he finds some spark come playoff time.

He is a good runner, sorry that doesn't fit your agenda here. Not a very good quarterback overall, but he has shown the ability to make plays with his legs on a number of occasion9.

Yawn. No one cares about his running ability.

(12-02-2017, 03:23 PM)WhoYouBE Wrote: [ -> ]Yawn. No one cares about his running ability.

Yeah, because you don't want to be able to use it on short yardage plays in the post season.

Just curious, what is this list based off? Like a certain amount of games or a certain amount of attempts? If so, how many?

(12-02-2017, 04:07 PM)Brett Wrote: [ -> ]Just curious, what is this list based off? Like a certain amount of games or a certain amount of attempts? If so, how many?

Ypc

(12-02-2017, 04:02 PM)atburg Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-02-2017, 03:23 PM)WhoYouBE Wrote: [ -> ]Yawn. No one cares about his running ability.

Yeah, because you don't want to be able to use it on short yardage plays in the post season.

No because I want my QB to learn how to throw not run.

(12-02-2017, 04:40 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-02-2017, 04:07 PM)Brett Wrote: [ -> ]Just curious, what is this list based off? Like a certain amount of games or a certain amount of attempts? If so, how many?

Ypc

Yeah, I understood that but I'm saying what's the cut off for how this list was made? Like let's say Garoppolo only runs twice this weekend but he averages 10 yards on those 2 carries...would he make this list?

So my question is, how many games is this based out of or how many carries per attempt? It's a great stat and I'm glad you came up with it, just was curious on that part.

(12-02-2017, 04:41 PM)WhoYouBE Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-02-2017, 04:02 PM)atburg Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, because you don't want to be able to use it on short yardage plays in the post season.

No because I want my QB to learn how to throw not run.

Well it's week 13, and we should be playoff bound. His throwing tendencies probably are not changing in the next couple months, so I'm willing to take whatever positives we can get.

(12-02-2017, 04:45 PM)Brett Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-02-2017, 04:40 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Ypc

Yeah, I understood that but I'm saying what's the cut off for how this list was made? Like let's say Garoppolo only runs twice this weekend but he averages 10 yards on those 2 carries...would he make this list?

So my question is, how many games is this based out of or how many carries per attempt?

Great question

(12-02-2017, 04:45 PM)Brett Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-02-2017, 04:40 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Ypc

Yeah, I understood that but I'm saying what's the cut off for how this list was made? Like let's say Garoppolo only runs twice this weekend but he averages 10 yards on those 2 carries...would he make this list?

So my question is, how many games is this based out of or how many carries per attempt? It's a great stat and I'm glad you came up with it, just was curious on that part.

I can't answer this, but among players with at least 200 attempts (enough to qualify Bortles) he still ranks second all time behind Vick.

(12-02-2017, 04:45 PM)Brett Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-02-2017, 04:40 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Ypc

Yeah, I understood that but I'm saying what's the cut off for how this list was made? Like let's say Garoppolo only runs twice this weekend but he averages 10 yards on those 2 carries...would he make this list?

So my question is, how many games is this based out of or how many carries per attempt? It's a great stat and I'm glad you came up with it, just was curious on that part.

Not sure what the minum number of carries is to make the list

Sports reference do 6 rushing attempts per game as the minimum to make the list. Think you have to have 300 carries minimum as well. Not sure what the official NFL stats use.

Cunningham was the better QB but Michael Vick was a freak.

Vick often times was the fastest player on the football field. Explosive play making ability.

It is also ironic Vick suffered from the same things that Bortles have. Vick had a a rocket of an arm but accuracy he had not. His career completion percentage is 56.2. Blake Bortles is a little higher at 58.7. A good range for an nfl QB is normally above 63 percent.

(12-02-2017, 09:41 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Cunningham was the better QB but Michael Vick was a freak.

Vick often times was the fastest player on the football field.  Explosive play making ability.

It is also ironic Vick suffered from the same things that Bortles have.  Vick had a a rocket of an arm but accuracy he had not.  His career completion percentage is 56.2.   Blake Bortles is a little higher at 58.7. A good range for an nfl QB is normally above 63 percent.

Disagree.

He might not of being a really good accurate passer but he was very good at intermediate passes. If you watched Vick in his prime no way would you ever compare his accuracy to Bortles.

(12-02-2017, 09:53 PM)WhoYouBE Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-02-2017, 09:41 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Cunningham was the better QB but Michael Vick was a freak.

Vick often times was the fastest player on the football field.  Explosive play making ability.

It is also ironic Vick suffered from the same things that Bortles have.  Vick had a a rocket of an arm but accuracy he had not.  His career completion percentage is 56.2.   Blake Bortles is a little higher at 58.7. A good range for an nfl QB is normally above 63 percent.

Disagree.

He might not of being a really good accurate passer but he was very good at intermediate passes. If you watched Vick in his prime no way would you ever compare his accuracy to Bortles.

You have to be kidding. 

The only things he had going for him was arm strength and his feet.

Bortles play action/ ball fakes are amongst the best in the league