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(12-31-2017, 09:42 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]He is much better when he gets in rhythm early in the game.  We need to throw to set up the run.  We do the opposite when Fournette is playing.

^ #nailedit

(12-31-2017, 09:42 PM)luigi Wrote: [ -> ]Do you think Cousins being the QB of this team next year is a realistic expectation?

I'd much rather let Bortles play out his 5th year option and draft a QB in this coming draft.

(12-31-2017, 09:42 PM)luigi Wrote: [ -> ]Do you think Cousins being the QB of this team next year is a realistic expectation?

Expectation? Probably not. Very realistic? Yes. Preferable? I think so. I wouldn't complain about a rookie 1st rd'er though

Bortles is just regressing back to himself. He's an inefficient turnover prone QB whos madly inconsistent week to week.

Bortles at QB for 2018 will be a wasted year.

I get tired of Jaguars fans who have been changing their tune about Bortles from week to week. The reality about Blake is that he can be very successful when the offensive line is effective and he isn't without his top 2 or 3 receivers.
He will never be a pro-bowl quarterback, but how many great quarterbacks are there in the NFL? His durability is second to none and the importance of that can't be overestimated. Kirk Cousins did not look like a $100 million quarterback today and the team that pays him will regret it. Some on this board wanted Brett Hundley and look what he has done since Rodgers got injured.

I expect the Jaguars to beat the Bills and the Steelers game will be very close. With Robinson back at left tackle, Fournette will have a big day and Blake will look like the guy who beat the Seahawks, Texans and Colts.The Jags will draft a quarterback in the 1st 3 or 4 rounds to replace Henne and be groomed to eventually become the starter. Just as important, the Jaguars need to continue to strengthen the offensive line. It is imperative that they draft someone very early, because the depth at this position is not good. Drafting someone like Hernandez or Nelson will help take the offense to a new level, especially with the return of Allen Robinson.

Bortles deserved all the criticism he received last season and early on this season. However, he has improved significantly and having the same offensive coordinator for a couple seasons is a big part of the reason. Regardless of how this season ends, I believe Jaguars fans have all the reasons in the world to be optimistic about this team moving forward and that includes the quarterback position.

(12-31-2017, 10:35 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ]I get tired of Jaguars fans who have been changing their tune about Bortles from week to week. The reality about Blake is that he can be very successful when the offensive line is effective and he isn't without his top 2 or 3 receivers.
He will never be a pro-bowl quarterback, but how many great quarterbacks are there in the NFL? His durability is second to none and the importance of that can't be overestimated. Kirk Cousins did not look like a $100 million  quarterback today and the team that pays him will regret it. Some on this board wanted Brett Hundley and look what he has  done since Rodgers got injured.

I expect the Jaguars to beat the Bills and the Steelers game will be very close. With Robinson back at left tackle, Fournette will have a big day and Blake will look like the guy who beat the Seahawks, Texans and Colts.The Jags will draft a quarterback in the 1st 3 or 4 rounds to replace Henne and be groomed to eventually become the starter. Just as important, the Jaguars need to continue to strengthen the offensive line. It is imperative that they draft someone very early, because the depth at this position is not good. Drafting someone like Hernandez or Nelson will help take the offense to a new level, especially with the return of Allen Robinson.

Bortles deserved all the criticism he received last season and early on this season. However, he has improved significantly and having the same offensive coordinator for a couple seasons is a big part of the reason. Regardless of how this season ends, I believe Jaguars fans have all the reasons in the world to be optimistic  about this team moving forward and that includes the quarterback position.

Yes, Bortles can hit the broad side of a barn, but he still can't, and probably never will, hit the barn door from 20 paces.

(12-31-2017, 09:50 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Bortles is just regressing back to himself. He's an inefficient turnover prone QB whos madly inconsistent week to week.  

Bortles at QB for 2018 will be a wasted year.

Good points...his dropped passes were just pathetic and I can't believe he muffed that one punt.  Cut Bortles today!

(01-01-2018, 02:04 AM)Jest101 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-31-2017, 09:50 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Bortles is just regressing back to himself. He's an inefficient turnover prone QB whos madly inconsistent week to week.  

Bortles at QB for 2018 will be a wasted year.

Good points...his dropped passes were just pathetic and I can't believe he muffed that one punt.  Cut Bortles today!

Don't forget his 2nd muffed punt that made us start at our own 5 yard line, or that fumble that he had inside of our own 30 yard line as well.

(01-01-2018, 02:14 AM)TEric1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-01-2018, 02:04 AM)Jest101 Wrote: [ -> ]Good points...his dropped passes were just pathetic and I can't believe he muffed that one punt.  Cut Bortles today!

Don't forget his 2nd muffed punt that made us start at our own 5 yard line, or that fumble that he had inside of our own 30 yard line as well.

Yes, none of those things are his fault but at the end of the day he has to lead the offense to more than 3 (or even 10 counting the dropped TD, which is generous)

(01-01-2018, 02:16 AM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-01-2018, 02:14 AM)TEric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Don't forget his 2nd muffed punt that made us start at our own 5 yard line, or that fumble that he had inside of our own 30 yard line as well.

Yes, none of those things are his fault but at the end of the day he has to lead the offense to more than 3 (or even 10 counting the dropped TD, which is generous)

It's actually comedy that you believe he can block, run and catch all by himself.

(01-01-2018, 02:04 AM)Jest101 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-31-2017, 09:50 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Bortles is just regressing back to himself. He's an inefficient turnover prone QB whos madly inconsistent week to week.  

Bortles at QB for 2018 will be a wasted year.

Good points...his dropped passes were just pathetic and I can't believe he muffed that one punt.  Cut Bortles today!

You took a lot extra from what I said. If you want to blame Blake for those things that's completely up to you dear sir.

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Thinking Bortles isn't good doesn't = Bortles is totally to blame for this loss.

Surely a relatively simple concept to understand.

The great Tyrod will be in town this week. Blake will learn alot by watching him.

(01-01-2018, 03:35 AM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]The great Tyrod will be in town this week. Blake will learn alot by watching him.

If he could at least learn to keep the ball like Tyrod we might be in for a deep run.

(12-31-2017, 09:43 PM)Jest101 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-31-2017, 09:42 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]He is much better when he gets in rhythm early in the game.  We need to throw to set up the run.  We do the opposite when Fournette is playing.

^ #nailedit

This is what I was preaching in the game day thread during the second half. When Fournette plays we just run heavy even when it never works and only pass when it is predictable and necessary. Hand cuff offense. I've tried watching the Ravens, Colts, Texans, Bengals games again to see what was different. Really we were able to just set and throw a lot to beat man coverage. Once this happened the running game was magically there. I know we had Wells out there but you can't play scared. When the game finally rested on us needing a TD to win and having to rhythm on offense Blake was just lobbing stuff off his back foot. It was either a very poorly managed game or the Titans defense was just elite.

(01-01-2018, 07:03 AM)JaguarJosh05 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-31-2017, 09:43 PM)Jest101 Wrote: [ -> ]^ #nailedit

This is what I was preaching in the game day thread during the second half. When Fournette plays we just run heavy even when it never works and only pass when it is predictable and necessary. Hand cuff offense. I've tried watching the Ravens, Colts, Texans, Bengals games again to see what was different. Really we were able to just set and throw a lot to beat man coverage. Once this happened the running game was magically there. I know we had Wells out there but you can't play scared. When the game finally rested on us needing a TD to win and having to rhythm on offense Blake was just lobbing stuff off his back foot. It was either a very poorly managed game or the Titans defense was just elite.

I agree...

The game plan is predictable when Fournette is in. The fact that we won every game he was out this season is testament that we don't have to lean on him as a workhorse.


GAME PLAN FOR PLAYOFFS :

Throw early... get Blake into a rhythm... Take a comfortable lead... Pound out the clock on a tired defense with your powerful backs.

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FYI.... ^^^that game plan is how you beat Tom Brady and the Patriots

Bortles isn't good, BUT needless to say, our terrible OC is not utilizing the best of his abilities. If we stay with Bortles next year, it would do the Jags some good to part ways with Hackett.

(01-01-2018, 10:31 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Bortles isn't good, BUT needless to say, our terrible OC is not utilizing the best of his abilities. If we stay with Bortles next year, it would do the Jags some good to part ways with Hackett.

Hackett has done a really nice job.

(01-01-2018, 10:39 AM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-01-2018, 10:31 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Bortles isn't good, BUT needless to say, our terrible OC is not utilizing the best of his abilities. If we stay with Bortles next year, it would do the Jags some good to part ways with Hackett.

Hackett has done a really nice job.

At what? Being completely predictable and gassing out the best defense in the NFL on a routine basis? Hackett has not been that great man.

(01-01-2018, 01:42 AM)jseymour Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-31-2017, 10:35 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ]I get tired of Jaguars fans who have been changing their tune about Bortles from week to week. The reality about Blake is that he can be very successful when the offensive line is effective and he isn't without his top 2 or 3 receivers.
He will never be a pro-bowl quarterback, but how many great quarterbacks are there in the NFL? His durability is second to none and the importance of that can't be overestimated. Kirk Cousins did not look like a $100 million  quarterback today and the team that pays him will regret it. Some on this board wanted Brett Hundley and look what he has  done since Rodgers got injured.

I expect the Jaguars to beat the Bills and the Steelers game will be very close. With Robinson back at left tackle, Fournette will have a big day and Blake will look like the guy who beat the Seahawks, Texans and Colts.The Jags will draft a quarterback in the 1st 3 or 4 rounds to replace Henne and be groomed to eventually become the starter. Just as important, the Jaguars need to continue to strengthen the offensive line. It is imperative that they draft someone very early, because the depth at this position is not good. Drafting someone like Hernandez or Nelson will help take the offense to a new level, especially with the return of Allen Robinson.

Bortles deserved all the criticism he received last season and early on this season. However, he has improved significantly and having the same offensive coordinator for a couple seasons is a big part of the reason. Regardless of how this season ends, I believe Jaguars fans have all the reasons in the world to be optimistic  about this team moving forward and that includes the quarterback position.

Yes, Bortles can hit the broad side of a barn, but he still can't, and probably never will, hit the barn door from 20 paces.

Sure looked like he was hitting those barn doors Dede Westbrook calls "hands" yesterday.

(01-01-2018, 10:59 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-01-2018, 10:39 AM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Hackett has done a really nice job.

At what? Being completely predictable and gassing out the best defense in the NFL on a routine basis? Hackett has not been that great man.

You have to give him credit. When Fournette isn't playing, he calls one hell of a game.