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Quote:Are you looking at polling data from today?  They have done a poll or two since October 7th in case you missed it.

 

I read about polls done after that date, yes.

Quote:Your opinion, but sorry... not fact.

 

You are not a well educated and informed voter.  You are part of what doesn't bode well for our country.

 

What is not a fact?

Quote:You are denying the fact Donald Trump is on the right side politically. Fact checkers let everyone know Trump always supported the Iraq war. He talks about wanting to repeal and replace the ACA. He also is pro life and believes "stop and frisk" is a good thing. Republican guy straight up.

What fact checkers?  The laughably "unbiased" Snopes?  Gimme a break.  Whatever they put in the spoon, you lap it up like a good little kitty.

 

He talks about replacing the ACA.  Have you bothered to look at what polling says about that one?  Obviously not.  

 

He's pro life?  So, you're good with abortion at any stage in the pregnancy?  We'll put you in the pro death column then.  

 

Oh no!  Not stop and frisk!  This is such a non-issue, but once again, being a low information voter, this is what you need to cling to.  

Quote:What fact checkers?  The laughably "unbiased" Snopes?  Gimme a break.  Whatever they put in the spoon, you lap it up like a good little kitty.

 

He talks about replacing the ACA.  Have you bothered to look at what polling says about that one?  Obviously not.  

 

He's pro life?  So, you're good with abortion at any stage in the pregnancy?  We'll put you in the pro death column then.  

 

Oh no!  Not stop and frisk!  This is such a non-issue, but once again, being a low information voter, this is what you need to cling to.  

 

If you don't know about www.factcheck.org and similar websites showing clear evidence Donald Trump lied about his stance on the Iraq war, you are a misinformed voter.

 

If you think I was talking about the ACA itself, you need to reread my post. All I said was Trump wants to kill it.

 

Again, I was just telling you what Trump's political views on issues are without giving any hints about mine. Regarding abortion, I do not support after the baby's survival point.

Quote:You are denying the fact Donald Trump is on the right side politically. Fact checkers let everyone know Trump always supported the Iraq war. He talks about wanting to repeal and replace the ACA. He also is pro life and believes "stop and frisk" is a good thing. Republican guy straight up.

 

Again, you're completely uninformed.

 

He does not have the full support of his party.  He is not a Republican or conservative.  However, he is the Republican candidate for President.  It may be a bit confusing to you, but just because someone carries a party name doesn't mean he carries the values of the party.  You might be shocked to know that people do change parties.  The greatest President of my lifetime, Ronald Reagan was a Democrat before he was a Republican.  One of the last good Democrats, Joe Leiberman became independent after his party rejected his objectivity.

 

Everyone should want to repeal and replace Obamacare.  It's been nothing short of a disaster and has harmed more than helped.  The old system was better the way it was.  The only changes needed were to help the few who needed it.  That only needed tweaks.  Now, we have a worse system that's punishing everyone including those it was supposed to "help."  The only thing partisan about Obamacare is that it was only Democrats who were stupid enough to pass it even before reading it.  No one in their right mind would sign or support anyone signing legislation that hasn't been read and understood by those voting on it.  That's not how laws should ever be passed at any level, especially not by Congress.

 

I'm sorry if you're for having a doctor sever the spinal cord of a child during birth.  You're as much a monster as they are if that's what you're for.  I was a preemie.  At the time I was "born" back then it was technically considered a "miscarriage" because few survived being born that early with the technology they had back then.  My birth was well within the period what you back for killing is allowed.  That being said, no candidate will single-handedly outlaw abortion 100%.  I simply won't happen.  The Democrats have brainwashed you into believing this, but it simply isn't true.  Just another tactic to scare you into not thinking for yourself and leaving their reservation for free thought.

 

The wars we've fought for the last eight years all had a net effect worse than the Iraq war.  There's less stabilization and more terror in the region than there ever was prior to the current mismanagement of our military involvement in the middle east.  Relations are worse.  Why?  Incompetent leadership in the White House and at Secretary of State.

 

Hillary has had her chance to solve all the problems she says she's running for.

 

She's done NOTHING to solve them.  Even after getting rich in office where her JOB was to solve those problems.

 

Every single thing she's touched, has gotten WORSE under her meddling.

 

She destroys everything in her wake, including families.  People's lives.

 

Anyone who stands for her is simply a sick person.

Quote:What fact checkers? The laughably "unbiased" Snopes? Gimme a break. Whatever they put in the spoon, you lap it up like a good little kitty.


He talks about replacing the ACA. Have you bothered to look at what polling says about that one? Obviously not.


He's pro life? So, you're good with abortion at any stage in the pregnancy? We'll put you in the pro death column then.


Oh no! Not stop and frisk! This is such a non-issue, but once again, being a low information voter, this is what you need to cling to.

I chuckle everytime I hear the words "Repeal and Replace". How does he figure that will happen in aSenate with majority?

Quote:I chuckle every time I hear the words "Repeal and Replace". How does he figure that will happen in a Senate with majority?

 

The current Senate majority is Republican. He ignores the fact that a red Senate may turn blue in January.

 

I bet Trump does not know a 60% majority is required to get enough votes for a repeal.

Doesn't matter how it happens, it needs to happen.  The smarter of the Democrats even see it now.

Quote:The current Senate majority is Republican. He ignores the fact that a red Senate may turn blue in January.

 

I bet Trump does not know a 60% majority is required to get enough votes for a repeal.

Or he thinks he can come up with a better plan that everyone will be on board with.


You know, you don't become a billionaire by being totally ignorant about how things work.

Quote:Or he thinks he can come up with a better plan that everyone will be on board with.


You know, you don't become a billionaire by being totally ignorant about how things work.

 

Obviously. All it takes to get rich is knowing how to avoid taxes for 18 years LOL.

Quote:Obviously. All it takes to get rich is knowing how to avoid taxes for 18 years LOL.

You really do need to read more. Seriously.

Quote:You really do need to read more. Seriously.

 

I was kidding about getting rich. But it certainly helped him financially to avoid paying taxes for nearly two decades.

Quote:Obviously. All it takes to get rich is knowing how to avoid taxes for 18 years LOL.

 

Says someone that doesn't pay them. 

Quote:I was kidding about getting rich. But it certainly helped him financially to avoid paying taxes for nearly two decades.

He didn't avoid paying taxes, but keep thinking that's the case. Anyone who takes a write off on their taxes is doing exactly the same thing. Even your beloved Hillary has done this. It's perfectly legal. Even the conservative newspaper, the New York Times had to concede it was legal.

Quote:Says someone that doesn't pay them. 

 

Donald Trump could have paid every penny of taxes he kept for himself.

 

Quote:He didn't avoid paying taxes, but keep thinking that's the case. Anyone who takes a write off on their taxes is doing exactly the same thing. Even your beloved Hillary has done this. It's perfectly legal. Even the conservative newspaper, the New York Times had to concede it was legal.

 

I read a lot about Trump avoiding taxes for 18 years because of a huge debt in 1995. No matter Trump did it, he was using a tax avoidance strategy and nobody likes that.

Quote:Donald Trump could have paid every penny of taxes he kept for himself.

 

 

I read a lot about Trump avoiding taxes for 18 years because of a huge debt in 1995. No matter Trump did it, he was using a tax avoidance strategy and nobody likes that.

 

Do you hand people money that you don't owe them?

 

Didn't think so.

 

Neither should he.

 

Please tell me you're intelligent enough to understand he shouldn't pay what he doesn't owe.

Quote:Do you hand people money that you don't owe them?

 

Didn't think so.

 

Neither should he.

 

Please tell me you're intelligent enough to understand he shouldn't pay what he doesn't owe.

 

I have no idea what you are talking about, but feel free to believe what you want about Trump's tax avoidance strategy. Just don't try to convince me I am wrong without proving it.

As someone who has been called a Hillary shill, I don't care about whether Donnie paid taxes or not! If anything I am jealous.


Non issue

Quote:Donald Trump could have paid every penny of taxes he kept for himself.

 

 

I read a lot about Trump avoiding taxes for 18 years because of a huge debt in 1995. No matter Trump did it, he was using a tax avoidance strategy and nobody likes that.

 

 

This is probably one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen, and it shows just how willing you are to be spoon fed your "thoughts" about Trump and his taxes. 

 

Tell us how what he did was illegal.  You call it a "tax avoidance strategy" as if this is somehow illegal, so tell us how that's the case.  And when you say "nobody likes that" when referring to this "tax avoidance strategy", who are you talking about?  I know I do everything I can to avoid paying the government any more than they're absolutely entitled to, and I take advantage of EVERY write off and deduction that is available to me.  So, I can tell you that not everyone dislikes avoiding paying taxes.  The vast majority who DO pay taxes (something you apparently know nothing about) look for every possible way to utilize the tax code to minimize their obligation as much as is legally possible.  You'd know this if you actually paid income taxes.

Quote:I have no idea what you are talking about, but feel free to believe what you want about Trump's tax avoidance strategy. Just don't try to convince me I am wrong without proving it.

Okay, in the most simplest of forms, with nice, easy numbers.



Say you lost 100 dollars, then you turn around and find one dollar. That does not mean you are ahead a dollar, it just means you are now only 99 dollars in the hole. That's is kind of what happened with Trump.


Trump lost a bunch of money one year, and it took him a bunch of years to get the money he lost back. During those years, the money he made is not considered profit because he's still not earned back the money he lost. If you don't have a profit (income) then you don't pay income tax.