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(01-22-2018, 12:00 AM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]Let him play through the option. Improve the receiving core, replace Cann, find some additional defensive talent, a possible QB upgrade and let er ride for another year.

This.

(01-22-2018, 12:16 AM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-21-2018, 11:52 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]Yup the AFCCG is Bortles ceiling. Super Bowl QB he is not.

Sure....you're a nobody. Last year you were saying Bortles would never make the playoffs and his ceiling is a losing NFL QB.

He is 25 years old genius.

He's gonna be a top 10 NFL QB in his career and outplayed Brady 3/4's the game.

And you’re [BLEEP] somebody lol. 3/4 of a game gets you a paperweight. Ask Mark Brunell he’ll show you his. Just promise me that if the Jags draft a QB within the first 3 rounds, you’ll disappear for good and troll some other fan base.

(01-22-2018, 12:04 AM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-21-2018, 11:56 PM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]Do you honestly think he hasn’t made nice improvements this year? Why is this year his ceiling? Heck Alex Smith had his best ever year this year and he’s a lot older than Blake

He had a chance to win the game and he didn’t. Down by 4 with 3 TOs and 4 minutes and change on the clock and he couldn’t will his team to a win. Great players make big plays in big games. Bottom line is he came up short. History of the NFL is littered with players who came up short in big moments. Bortles won’t be the last.

Yes he did. Bortles had this team in a position to win the game, against a team that has been to 7 straight AFC Championship games and a team who has won 2 of the last 3 Super Bowls. Did he come up short? Yea he came up about 3 inches and a great play by the defender short. Are you really trying to knock him for this?..

(01-22-2018, 12:29 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 12:04 AM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]He had a chance to win the game and he didn’t. Down by 4 with 3 TOs and 4 minutes and change on the clock and he couldn’t will his team to a win. Great players make big plays in big games. Bottom line is he came up short. History of the NFL is littered with players who came up short in big moments. Bortles won’t be the last.

Yes he did. Bortles had this team in a position to win the game, against a team that has been to 7 straight AFC Championship games and a team who has won 2 of the last 3 Super Bowls. Did he come up short? Yea he came up about 3 inches and a great play by the defender short. Are you really trying to knock him for this?..

The whole offense is dumbed down because of the QB. He is literally the weakest link on that side of the the ball and anyone with eyes can see it. To answer your question; yes.

(01-22-2018, 12:26 AM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 12:16 AM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ]Sure....you're a nobody. Last year you were saying Bortles would never make the playoffs and his ceiling is a losing NFL QB.

He is 25 years old genius.

He's gonna be a top 10 NFL QB in his career and outplayed Brady 3/4's the game.

And you’re [BLEEP] somebody lol. 3/4 of a game gets you a paperweight. Ask Mark Brunell he’ll show you his. Just promise me that if the Jags draft a QB within the first 3 rounds, you’ll disappear for good and troll some other fan base.

Ok keep hating Bortles for the next 12 years he's a Jag. I don't care. Go turn on CNN while you're at it if you like fake news.

(01-22-2018, 12:32 AM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 12:29 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Yes he did. Bortles had this team in a position to win the game, against a team that has been to 7 straight AFC Championship games and a team who has won 2 of the last 3 Super Bowls. Did he come up short? Yea he came up about 3 inches and a great play by the defender short. Are you really trying to knock him for this?..

The whole offense is dumbed down because of the QB. He is literally the weakest link on that side of the the ball and anyone with eyes can see it. To answer your question; yes.

And this team isn't even in this game if he's not the QB. Blame the OC for going conservative. Now is the time you put the ball in the QB's hands regardless. Let him go win or lose it. Both the OC and DC were scared and they lost it. Not Bortles.

(01-22-2018, 12:32 AM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 12:29 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Yes he did. Bortles had this team in a position to win the game, against a team that has been to 7 straight AFC Championship games and a team who has won 2 of the last 3 Super Bowls. Did he come up short? Yea he came up about 3 inches and a great play by the defender short. Are you really trying to knock him for this?..

The whole offense is dumbed down because of the QB. He is literally the weakest link on that side of the the ball and anyone with eyes can see it. To answer your question; yes.

That's not true at all. 1. It's dumbed down because the Jags have marginal WR talent after losing A Rob. 2. Coughlin/Marrone WILL ALWAYS play smash mouth football. 

I'm sure you're one of those inept people who wanted to draft Johnny Manziel. You're like a white crayon- useless.

(01-22-2018, 12:38 AM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 12:26 AM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]And you’re [BLEEP] somebody lol. 3/4 of a game gets you a paperweight. Ask Mark Brunell he’ll show you his. Just promise me that if the Jags draft a QB within the first 3 rounds, you’ll disappear for good and troll some other fan base.

Ok keep hating Bortles for the next 12 years he's a Jag. I don't care. Go turn on CNN while you're at it if you like fake news.

This is a serious question, are you related in any way to Bortles? Your obsession with him is odd, if you're not.

(01-22-2018, 12:13 AM)BamboozledAgain Wrote: [ -> ]Alex Smith. Doesnt turn the ball over, is mobile, would not require a long term contract, and KC is gonna be willing to get whatever they can for him because everyone knows the rookie is starting next year

He has a limited route tree. He did start the year off gang busters, but definitely leveled off and returned to what his baseline was for most of the season. Most of his big plays also involve a lot of misdirection and YAC. Things for which the Jags' coaching staff does not really scheme.

(01-22-2018, 12:38 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 12:32 AM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]The whole offense is dumbed down because of the QB. He is literally the weakest link on that side of the the ball and anyone with eyes can see it. To answer your question; yes.

And this team isn't even in this game if he's not the QB. Blame the OC for going conservative. Now is the time you put the ball in the QB's hands regardless. Let him go win or lose it. Both the OC and DC were scared and they lost it. Not Bortles.

The QBs job is to get the ball in the end zone. He had a very good opportunity to win the game and couldn’t put a game winning drive together when it mattered the most. He’s a mediocre QB who will never lead a team to a Super Bowl.

(01-22-2018, 12:43 AM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 12:38 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]And this team isn't even in this game if he's not the QB. Blame the OC for going conservative. Now is the time you put the ball in the QB's hands regardless. Let him go win or lose it. Both the OC and DC were scared and they lost it. Not Bortles.

The QBs job is to get the ball in the end zone. He had a very good opportunity to win the game and couldn’t put a game winning drive together when it mattered the most. He’s a mediocre QB who will never lead a team to a Super Bowl.

So now he's just a mediocre QB who will never lead this team to a Super Bowl? 

Before this season, wasn't he just a bad QB who wouldn't ever lead this team to the playoffs? How fast things can change huh.

(01-22-2018, 12:40 AM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 12:32 AM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]The whole offense is dumbed down because of the QB. He is literally the weakest link on that side of the the ball and anyone with eyes can see it. To answer your question; yes.

That's not true at all. 1. It's dumbed down because the Jags have marginal WR talent after losing A Rob. 2. Coughlin/Marrone WILL ALWAYS play smash mouth football. 

I'm sure you're one of those inept people who wanted to draft Johnny Manziel. You're like a white crayon- useless.

So wrong can’t stand Manziel. If you were to go back to the old message board and dig through threads from Bortles rookie season, you’ll find a thread that I started which posed the question of whether or not Bortles was a transcendent talent. (Which at the time I believed he was.) I tried to give him a pass his rookie year, but he was a turnover machine and doubt started to set in. Then in his 2nd year he put up great numbers, but unfortunately most of themselves came when the team was already down by 2 scores. Most players are shown the door after the season he had in year 3, so really he’s lucky to still even be playing. He is who he is: mediocre.

(01-22-2018, 12:55 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 12:43 AM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]The QBs job is to get the ball in the end zone. He had a very good opportunity to win the game and couldn’t put a game winning drive together when it mattered the most. He’s a mediocre QB who will never lead a team to a Super Bowl.

So now he's just a mediocre QB who will never lead this team to a Super Bowl? 

Before this season, wasn't he just a bad QB who wouldn't ever lead this team to the playoffs? How fast things can change huh.

If you had to choose: 

Which of the following statements would you find to be more accurate?

1.  Blake Bortles led the Jags to the AFC championship contest. 

2. The Jags defense led their team to the AFC championship contest.

(01-22-2018, 12:59 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 12:55 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]So now he's just a mediocre QB who will never lead this team to a Super Bowl? 

Before this season, wasn't he just a bad QB who wouldn't ever lead this team to the playoffs? How fast things can change huh.

If you had to choose: 

Which of the following statements would you find to be more accurate?

1.  Blake Bortles led the Jags to the AFC championship contest. 

2. The Jags defense led their team to the AFC championship contest.

Well you admit that the QB position is the most important position on the field correct? So wouldn't that tell you that a team isn't going to get this far unless the QB does his part?

Of course this Defense is the stronger side. You could insert any QB on this team, except for the likes of Brady, Rodgers and Brees, and this Defense would still be the strongest part of this team.

The question one has to ask themselves is, would Bortles be your man if our defense was average?

(01-22-2018, 01:03 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 12:59 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]If you had to choose: 

Which of the following statements would you find to be more accurate?

1.  Blake Bortles led the Jags to the AFC championship contest. 

2. The Jags defense led their team to the AFC championship contest.

Well you admit that the QB position is the most important position on the field correct? So wouldn't that tell you that a team isn't going to get this far unless the QB does his part?

Of course this Defense is the stronger side. You could insert any QB on this team, except for the likes of Brady, Rodgers and Brees, and this Defense would still be the strongest part of this team.

I'm saying they got to/advanced in the playoffs WITH Bortles. Not LED BY Bortles.  And I think the distinction between those two things is very important. 

I'd love to see the kid develop to the point where the OC isn't scared to death to let him throw an out route from his own ten yard line. But that's where we're at right now unfortunately.

(01-22-2018, 01:04 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]The question one has to ask themselves is, would Bortles be your man if our defense was average?

If he was a finished product it’s hard to say yes. I don’t believe he’s a finished product. I guess that’s our difference?

No, he's under contract for next season and while there were definitive improvements, he's still needs to be much more consistent if he wants to be the long term option.

(01-22-2018, 01:10 AM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 01:04 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]The question one has to ask themselves is, would Bortles be your man if our defense was average?

If he was a finished product it’s hard to say yes. I don’t believe he’s a finished product. I guess that’s our difference?

I am willing to accept he isn't a finished product IF Hackett is fired. Else, we are running on a hamster wheel here. The lack of Trust shown in Bortles from his own staff is incredible.