(01-24-2018, 10:31 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (01-23-2018, 10:38 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]Not true.
That number is over 10 years and doesn't take into account for economic growth. The growth, by the way, we never saw under Obama.
The kickbacks for employees is great, but we're also seeing companies spending in the US, too.
Hell, Apple is paying tens of billions in taxes just to bring a couple hundred back into the US. There's no way the deficit increases under the tax plan.
Dude, my properties and 401k went up $750k under Obama.
Sorry you kept your savings under your mattress. .... Southern Georgia ....smh
It's fact that there was zero growth under Obama's petty regime. Just awful politics written by awful people. Nothing worse than hypocrite and liars which, sad to say, is all the democratic party is now.
Oh, Starbucks, the most liberal company I can think of, just gave 150k of their workers more money and better benefits.
Oh and if you want to talk about properties, it's the dems fault in Congress for allowing Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae to give loans to people that couldn't afford it. Bush TRIED to stop it but the lobbying giants just paid off the democrats. But I'm sure you won't read about that in HuffPo.
(01-24-2018, 10:31 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (01-23-2018, 10:38 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]Not true.
That number is over 10 years and doesn't take into account for economic growth. The growth, by the way, we never saw under Obama.
The kickbacks for employees is great, but we're also seeing companies spending in the US, too.
Hell, Apple is paying tens of billions in taxes just to bring a couple hundred back into the US. There's no way the deficit increases under the tax plan.
Dude, my properties and 401k went up $750k under Obama.
Sorry you kept your savings under your mattress .... the waycross way
The only people with your perceived net worth who liked Obama live in California and act in movies.
(01-23-2018, 10:42 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]Wow the trumpettes love a bit of propaganda. I bet there is no great salary increases for the average man in the coming years.
A one off bonus? What about a wage increase?
Everyone at my work just received serious wage increases after being pretty stagnant for the last 4 years.
I work for a "small business" too. Not some rich man corporation.
(01-24-2018, 10:31 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (01-23-2018, 10:38 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]Not true.
That number is over 10 years and doesn't take into account for economic growth. The growth, by the way, we never saw under Obama.
The kickbacks for employees is great, but we're also seeing companies spending in the US, too.
Hell, Apple is paying tens of billions in taxes just to bring a couple hundred back into the US. There's no way the deficit increases under the tax plan.
Dude, my properties and 401k went up $750k under Obama.
Sorry you kept your savings under your mattress .... the waycross way
1 person does not represent America as a whole.
My 401k increased about a total of 8k over 8 years with Obama.
It went up like 3k in this first Trump year.
(01-24-2018, 10:39 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-24-2018, 10:31 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Dude, my properties and 401k went up $750k under Obama.
Sorry you kept your savings under your mattress .... the waycross way
The only people with your perceived net worth who liked Obama live in California and act in movies.
Yep, because nobody in the best educated cities in the US (Boston, NY, DC, Philly, Baltimore, Pittsburgh) like Obama. Oh wait, those people probably didn't accumulate a high net worth during the Obama era so let's disregard them. It's just me and Tom Cruise that took advantage of a booming housing and stock market from 2010-2016.
(01-24-2018, 10:52 AM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]1 person does not represent America as a whole.
My 401k increased about a total of 8k over 8 years with Obama.
It went up like 3k in this first Trump year.
Dude, the stock market had a 235% rate of return during Obama. I assume you are about 29 years old and was just starting your contributions to 401k during the Obama era. to have an $8k return on investment. Otherwise, all things being equal, your ROI numbers don't add up.
(01-24-2018, 11:40 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (01-24-2018, 10:52 AM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]1 person does not represent America as a whole.
My 401k increased about a total of 8k over 8 years with Obama.
It went up like 3k in this first Trump year.
Dude, the stock market had a 235% rate of return during Obama. I assume you are about 29 years old and was just starting your contributions to 401k during the Obama era. to have an $8k return on investment.
Pretty close. 33.
But I've been putting in before Obama got in.
401k took a heavy hit and lost a lot of money during the crisis of 08. Granted, I don't put in a ton of money (only about 25 per week) and I'm guesstimating because I don't have my portfolio statement in front of me. But during Obama's tenure it was a slow and steady grind.
And it is moving in leaps and bounds comparatively. Perhaps it is what stocks and bonds I'm allocated in, who knows.
But the proof is in the pudding. It has certainly done better the past year than any of the 8 years when Obama was in.
(01-24-2018, 12:36 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ] (01-24-2018, 11:40 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Dude, the stock market had a 235% rate of return during Obama. I assume you are about 29 years old and was just starting your contributions to 401k during the Obama era. to have an $8k return on investment.
Pretty close. 33.
But I've been putting in before Obama got in.
401k took a heavy hit and lost a lot of money during the crisis of 08. Granted, I don't put in a ton of money (only about 25 per week) and I'm guesstimating because I don't have my portfolio statement in front of me. But during Obama's tenure it was a slow and steady grind.
And it is moving in leaps and bounds comparatively. Perhaps it is what stocks and bonds I'm allocated in, who knows.
But the proof is in the pudding. It has certainly done better the past year than any of the 8 years when Obama was in.
OK ... that makes sense. Actually, your early contributions under Bush most likely got depleted as the Market was plunging (pre-Obama) so your return on investment under Obama was decent but the problem was your 401k base wasn't sufficient at your early age (and the Bush plunge) to really recognize a substantial $$ return.
I agree, 401k has been great under Trump .... don't get me wrong but once shouldn't look at the Obama numbers and think that he didn't pull us out of the [BLEEP] hole
(01-24-2018, 12:44 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (01-24-2018, 12:36 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]Pretty close. 33.
But I've been putting in before Obama got in.
401k took a heavy hit and lost a lot of money during the crisis of 08. Granted, I don't put in a ton of money (only about 25 per week) and I'm guesstimating because I don't have my portfolio statement in front of me. But during Obama's tenure it was a slow and steady grind.
And it is moving in leaps and bounds comparatively. Perhaps it is what stocks and bonds I'm allocated in, who knows.
But the proof is in the pudding. It has certainly done better the past year than any of the 8 years when Obama was in.
OK ... that makes sense. Actually, your early contributions under Bush most likely got depleted as the Market was plunging (pre-Obama) so your return on investment under Obama was decent but the problem was your 401k base wasn't sufficient at your early age (and the Bush plunge) to really recognize a substantial $$ return.
I agree, 401k has been great under Trump .... don't get me wrong but once shouldn't look at the Obama numbers and think that he didn't pull us out of the [BLEEP] hole
There was no where to go but up, but one could also look at it as "pulling us out".
(01-24-2018, 01:04 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-24-2018, 12:44 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]OK ... that makes sense. Actually, your early contributions under Bush most likely got depleted as the Market was plunging (pre-Obama) so your return on investment under Obama was decent but the problem was your 401k base wasn't sufficient at your early age (and the Bush plunge) to really recognize a substantial $$ return.
I agree, 401k has been great under Trump .... don't get me wrong but once shouldn't look at the Obama numbers and think that he didn't pull us out of the [BLEEP] hole
There was no where to go but up, but one could also look at it as "pulling us out".
Obama prevented an all out market collapse as you all complained about the bailouts that were eventually paid back. Probably one of the significant financial moves in US History.
(01-24-2018, 10:11 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (01-24-2018, 01:18 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Obama prevented an all out market collapse as you all complained about the bailouts that were eventually paid back. Probably one of the significant financial moves in US History.
Lol.
Yeah, I had to pull out at that point. The trollin' got too heavy, lol.