01-30-2018, 09:37 AM
Seems to be a few kooks in this very thread that hold the same disdain for our military as that [BLEEP] clown does. Isn't that just great? Damn kooks.
(01-30-2018, 09:37 AM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]Seems to be a few kooks in this very thread that hold the same disdain for our military as that [BLEEP] clown does. Isn't that just great? Damn kooks.
(01-30-2018, 08:42 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ](01-29-2018, 10:51 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]McDonald's recruiter: "Come work for us! We have lots of room for growth and upward mobility!"
Reality: Flipping burgers for $8/hr. until you get promoted to assistant manager and start flipping burgers for $9.50/hr.
Military recruiter: "Sign up! See the world! Great educational opportunities! Specialized training you can use when your two years are up!"
Reality: You're lying on the sand bleeding out through a gaping hole in your torso, and the last thing you hear is a band of ISIS fighters celebrating your death
The promises made by the recruiters aren't too different, really, and neither one is entirely honest, but one of those two recruiters knows that there are even odds your career ends with a bang, and the other one just wants a warm body working the microwave until Dollar General comes along to snap up those managerial skills for $9.60 an hour.
Hyperbole FTW!
(01-30-2018, 10:01 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ](01-30-2018, 08:42 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Hyperbole FTW!
BTW, did you know that the deaths per 100,00 for the military is lower than several blue collar occupations in America? And I would say that it's probably more dangerous to flip burgers on the Southside of Chicago than it is to do a 4 year hitch in the Air Force.
(01-30-2018, 10:08 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ](01-30-2018, 10:01 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]BTW, did you know that the deaths per 100,00 for the military is lower than several blue collar occupations in America? And I would say that it's probably more dangerous to flip burgers on the Southside of Chicago than it is to do a 4 year hitch in the Air Force.
Anyone, regardless of specialty or branch of service, can be pulled from their assigned duties, from anywhere in the world, at any time, and sent to a combat zone to fight in a foxhole under direct orders from the president. Yep, that’s how it works.
(01-30-2018, 10:18 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ](01-30-2018, 10:08 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone, regardless of specialty or branch of service, can be pulled from their assigned duties, from anywhere in the world, at any time, and sent to a combat zone to fight in a foxhole under direct orders from the president. Yep, that’s how it works.
Yes, but that is still an incredibly rare occurrence, and if they're pulling desk jockeys for live fire duty then a draft probably won't be far behind and the point will be moot.
(01-30-2018, 11:09 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ](01-30-2018, 10:18 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, but that is still an incredibly rare occurrence, and if they're pulling desk jockeys for live fire duty then a draft probably won't be far behind and the point will be moot.
I need to work on my sarcasm font. I was poking fun at the assertion of high schoolers who join the service automatically becoming bullet sponges. Surely TJ must know that those who go into combat made a clear decision to volunteer for combat arms specialties. Supply clerks, aircraft mechanics, and other support specialties don’t just somehow magically find themselves in foxholes.
(01-29-2018, 10:51 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ](01-29-2018, 09:10 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]So recruiters...recruit? My diety, what a revelation.
McDonald's recruiter: "Come work for us! We have lots of room for growth and upward mobility!"
Reality: Flipping burgers for $8/hr. until you get promoted to assistant manager and start flipping burgers for $9.50/hr.
Military recruiter: "Sign up! See the world! Great educational opportunities! Specialized training you can use when your two years are up!"
Reality: You're lying on the sand bleeding out through a gaping hole in your torso, and the last thing you hear is a band of ISIS fighters celebrating your death
The promises made by the recruiters aren't too different, really, and neither one is entirely honest, but one of those two recruiters knows that there are even odds your career ends with a bang, and the other one just wants a warm body working the microwave until Dollar General comes along to snap up those managerial skills for $9.60 an hour.
(01-30-2018, 11:09 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ](01-30-2018, 10:18 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, but that is still an incredibly rare occurrence, and if they're pulling desk jockeys for live fire duty then a draft probably won't be far behind and the point will be moot.
I need to work on my sarcasm font. I was poking fun at the assertion of high schoolers who join the service automatically becoming bullet sponges. Surely TJ must know that those who go into combat made a clear decision to volunteer for combat arms specialties. Supply clerks, aircraft mechanics, and other support specialties don’t just somehow magically find themselves in foxholes.
(01-31-2018, 10:55 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ](01-29-2018, 10:51 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]McDonald's recruiter: "Come work for us! We have lots of room for growth and upward mobility!"
Reality: Flipping burgers for $8/hr. until you get promoted to assistant manager and start flipping burgers for $9.50/hr.
Military recruiter: "Sign up! See the world! Great educational opportunities! Specialized training you can use when your two years are up!"
Reality: You're lying on the sand bleeding out through a gaping hole in your torso, and the last thing you hear is a band of ISIS fighters celebrating your death
The promises made by the recruiters aren't too different, really, and neither one is entirely honest, but one of those two recruiters knows that there are even odds your career ends with a bang, and the other one just wants a warm body working the microwave until Dollar General comes along to snap up those managerial skills for $9.60 an hour.
Anyone at this point who joins any branch outside of the Coast Guard who doesn't know the reality of what they're getting into does not need to be in uniform. Period. Unless you've been living under a rock the past 15 years you know exactly what enlisting means.
It's like the idiots who were shocked they were having to deploy. Um, we are at war folks. It's a post-9/11 world. Don't be so stupid.
(01-30-2018, 11:09 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I need to work on my sarcasm font. I was poking fun at the assertion of high schoolers who join the service automatically becoming bullet sponges. Surely TJ must know that those who go into combat made a clear decision to volunteer for combat arms specialties. Supply clerks, aircraft mechanics, and other support specialties don’t just somehow magically find themselves in foxholes.
No, but they do find themselves to be under fire more often than a lot of people realize.
(02-01-2018, 12:21 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: [ -> ]The Founders had their doubts about standing armies, and I tend to agree. The deployment of forces is rarely defensive in nature, therefore the reason for war must always be fabricated.
(01-31-2018, 11:40 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]If you say so.....but you're wrong.(01-31-2018, 10:55 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone at this point who joins any branch outside of the Coast Guard who doesn't know the reality of what they're getting into does not need to be in uniform. Period. Unless you've been living under a rock the past 15 years you know exactly what enlisting means.
It's like the idiots who were shocked they were having to deploy. Um, we are at war folks. It's a post-9/11 world. Don't be so stupid.
No, but they do find themselves to be under fire more often than a lot of people realize.
No, they really don't.
(02-01-2018, 12:21 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: [ -> ]The Founders had their doubts about standing armies, and I tend to agree. The deployment of forces is rarely defensive in nature, therefore the reason for war must always be fabricated.
(01-28-2018, 06:22 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/28/cal...video.html
This is absolutely UNBELIEVABLE! Wow! Do all California teachers teach this type of stuff??
(02-02-2018, 12:53 PM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote: [ -> ](01-28-2018, 06:22 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/28/cal...video.html
This is absolutely UNBELIEVABLE! Wow! Do all California teachers teach this type of stuff??
Come on its California, I wouldn't be shocked if a teacher wearing only a rainbow sash and a 'build bridges' pin took a dump on a flag and called it art there. Hence why the arts are in chronic need of defunding. Any good art will be paid for on its own, none of it needs the governments endowments.
(02-02-2018, 03:24 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]The implication that a lack of art causes communism is pretty funny. Soviets had plenty of art, just like North Korea. It was all state sponsored too, all over the schools, everywhere you went: plays, television shows, paintings, pictures, museums. It teaches their history just how they want.(02-02-2018, 12:53 PM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote: [ -> ]Come on its California, I wouldn't be shocked if a teacher wearing only a rainbow sash and a 'build bridges' pin took a dump on a flag and called it art there. Hence why the arts are in chronic need of defunding. Any good art will be paid for on its own, none of it needs the governments endowments.
Well there's a leap of logic broader than the gap from here to the moon. "One teacher hurt my feelings, so let's defund the arts entirely."
I'm as strongly pro-STEM education as anyone, but cutting the arts out of the educational process is how you get a neo-Soviet nation.