(02-20-2018, 05:24 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Rivera is so good the Jags released him as soon as they could. A team desperate for TE help didn't even want him in camp...
Where did you see or how do you know the team is desperate for TE help? Maybe they're content with Lewis, Koyack & O'Shaugnessy. Again, I don't understand where all of this love for the TE position is coming from. They had a pass catching athlete at the position in Julius Thomas and traded him away during the off-season last year.
Maybe this system doesn't call for a pass catching threat at the TE position.
(02-22-2018, 03:01 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Where did you see or how do you know the team is desperate for TE help? Maybe they're content with Lewis, Koyack & O'Shaugnessy. Again, I don't understand where all of this love for the TE position is coming from. They had a pass catching athlete at the position in Julius Thomas and traded him away during the off-season last year.
Maybe this system doesn't call for a pass catching threat at the TE position.
They let Thomas go because it was clear he signed his contact for the money not to actually play.
(02-22-2018, 03:01 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2018, 05:24 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Rivera is so good the Jags released him as soon as they could. A team desperate for TE help didn't even want him in camp...
Where did you see or how do you know the team is desperate for TE help? Maybe they're content with Lewis, Koyack & O'Shaugnessy. Again, I don't understand where all of this love for the TE position is coming from. They had a pass catching athlete at the position in Julius Thomas and traded him away during the off-season last year.
Maybe this system doesn't call for a pass catching threat at the TE position.
Because our TE group is the worst in the league.
We signed Thomas to be a weapon in the pass game. Gave him a huge deal.
He ended up being overweight, injury prone and was diabolical at blocking so we got rid of him.
The system Hackett runs absolutely could do with a great pass catching TE. In fact every offensive system could.
(02-22-2018, 03:01 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2018, 05:24 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Rivera is so good the Jags released him as soon as they could. A team desperate for TE help didn't even want him in camp...
Maybe this system doesn't call for a pass catching threat at the TE position.
Then the system is broken and needs to be fixed. Not utilizing the TE position in the passing game would be a mistake.
I bet we see them draft a TE that skillset using one of their first four picks.
(02-22-2018, 05:56 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (02-22-2018, 03:01 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]
Maybe this system doesn't call for a pass catching threat at the TE position.
Then the system is broken and needs to be fixed. Not utilizing the TE position in the passing game would be a mistake.
I bet we see them draft a TE that skillset using one of their first four picks.
Maybe my definition of a pass catching threat varies. I see players like Gronkowski, Kelce, Olson and Reed (When healthy) as a prominent pass catching threat where they're consistently racking up wide receiver like numbers and stretching the field. I don't think you need a guy of that caliber in this offense if you maximize the running game and retain Robinson on the outside.
Between the coverage he should command and the respect Fournette will command you don't need a freak athlete at TE. Just a guy that can work the middle of a field and sell the blocking when needed. If they take one with their first four picks it wouldn't be a surprise (as long as it's not at 29). I just don't see them reaching on the position on day one and definitely not in round two.
(02-23-2018, 05:09 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (02-22-2018, 05:56 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Then the system is broken and needs to be fixed. Not utilizing the TE position in the passing game would be a mistake.
I bet we see them draft a TE that skillset using one of their first four picks.
Maybe my definition of a pass catching threat varies. I see players like Gronkowski, Kelce, Olson and Reed (When healthy) as a prominent pass catching threat where they're consistently racking up wide receiver like numbers and stretching the field. I don't think you need a guy of that caliber in this offense if you maximize the running game and retain Robinson on the outside.
Between the coverage he should command and the respect Fournette will command you don't need a freak athlete at TE. Just a guy that can work the middle of a field and sell the blocking when needed. If they take one with their first four picks it wouldn't be a surprise (as long as it's not at 29). I just don't see them reaching on the position on day one and definitely not in round two.
Yeah they are all elite receiving threats as TEs.
We just need a good receiving TE who can threaten the seams, work the middle as you said, provide a big target/safety net for the QB and be a redzone threat. So far we don't have one of them. It's pretty clear we have a big need for a TE.
I am in the minority. I like the young guys on the roster in Koyack and O'Shaughnessy, behind Lewis. Sure, I would like an upgrade, but I feel confident these guys will continue to develop if given more playing time.