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Who is it..

Impossible to say at this time because we are so far down.

But let's assume for argument's sake McCarron goes to Cleveland and Cousins goes to the Jets.

I still think Cleveland would go QB at either 1 or 4.
If Cousins lands with the Jets or Broncos, whichever team landed him would trade down.

I mean, ideally Rosen, but seems like there's a better chance BCC posts a positive article on Blake Bortles than Rosen falling to us.

If this happens - I trepidatiously hope for Josh Allen to fall to the Jags.

In the same fashion that Hackett mitigated Blake's mistakes in 2017, I could see this raw prospect benefitting even more from a similar approach in 2019 after sitting for a year and learning the play book.

I think he can be reigned in and developed, and when he is, he'll be very good.

(02-20-2018, 05:48 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]If this happens - I trepidatiously hope for Josh Allen to fall to the Jags.

In the same fashion that Hackett mitigated Blake's mistakes in 2017, I could see this raw prospect benefitting even more from a similar approach in 2019 after sitting for a year and learning the play book.

I think he can be reigned in and developed, and when he is, he'll be very good.

I agree, and would not at all object to trading up for Allen if it becomes possible. He's an exceptionally gifted QB with one hell of an arm that will be put on display when throwing to NFL caliber receivers.

Allen has a potentially great arm with the power to rival any in league history.  He can be a little more accurate although he still has room to improve on his footwork and mechanics which alone may very well solve his accuracy issues. Josh is now being talked about as possibly the first overall pick, but hopefully that's just talk.

Check out this game tape...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqa39wzrhh8

(02-20-2018, 05:48 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]If this happens - I trepidatiously hope for Josh Allen to fall to the Jags.

In the same fashion that Hackett mitigated Blake's mistakes in 2017, I could see this raw prospect benefitting even more from a similar approach in 2019 after sitting for a year and learning the play book.

I think he can be reigned in and developed, and when he is, he'll be very good.

If he were to fall out of the top 10 ( Unlikely at this point, but you never know) , I would love to see a move up.

Ok, let’s list the teams that might realistically want to draft a QB ahead of us.

I reckon you’ve probably got the Browns, Giants, Broncos, Jets, Dolphins, Cardinals and Bills.

Let’s assume one of those teams gets Cousins and the Giants decide to fill another position.

And maybe the Cardinals decide they can make do with McCarron.

That’s still four teams probably looking to draft a QB ahead of us.

I just can’t see any chance one of the “top four” is reachable, barring a surprise fall because of injury (or stupidity) or a future-wrecking trade.


Having said that, if anyone falls it’s Allen (because of doubts over his ability) or Mayfield (doubts over his character)

I’d take either without question.



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(02-21-2018, 07:58 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]Allen has a potentially great arm with the power to rival any in league history.  He can be a little more accurate although he still has room to improve on his footwork and mechanics which alone may very well solve his accuracy issues. Josh is now being talked about as possibly the first overall pick, but hopefully that's just talk.

Check out this game tape...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqa39wzrhh8

You’re a big stats guy 02. Tell me your thoughts:

• Player A: 59.1 percent completion, 3,660 yards, 27 touchdowns, 10 interceptions, 8.7 adjusted yards per attempt, 1,601 yards rushing, and 18 rushing touchdowns in a Power 5 conference.
  
  
  
• Player B: 56.3 percent completion, 1,812 yards, 16 touchdowns, six interceptions, 6.9 adjusted yards per attempt, 204 yards rushing, and five rushing touchdowns in Group of 5 conference.
  

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Josh Allen getting the Kyle Boller comps.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...osh-allen/

(02-22-2018, 07:42 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-21-2018, 07:58 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]Allen has a potentially great arm with the power to rival any in league history.  He can be a little more accurate although he still has room to improve on his footwork and mechanics which alone may very well solve his accuracy issues. Josh is now being talked about as possibly the first overall pick, but hopefully that's just talk.

Check out this game tape...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqa39wzrhh8

You’re a big stats guy 02. Tell me your thoughts:

• Player A: 59.1 percent completion, 3,660 yards, 27 touchdowns, 10 interceptions, 8.7 adjusted yards per attempt, 1,601 yards rushing, and 18 rushing touchdowns in a Power 5 conference.
  
  
  
• Player B: 56.3 percent completion, 1,812 yards, 16 touchdowns, six interceptions, 6.9 adjusted yards per attempt, 204 yards rushing, and five rushing touchdowns in Group of 5 conference.
  

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Josh Allen getting the Kyle Boller comps.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...osh-allen/

Or you can go with Player C 02

Player C : 65 percent completion, 4,904 yards, 37 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 10.03 adjusted yards per attempt, 10 rushing touchdowns in a Power 5 conference

hmmmmmm

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I really wasnt a Josh Allen fan at all but when I seen him at the Senior Bowl the guy was impressive. I wouldn't hate the pick but is a high risk high reward, the highest ceiling of any player in the draft though.

(02-22-2018, 07:52 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-22-2018, 07:42 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]You’re a big stats guy 02. Tell me your thoughts:

• Player A: 59.1 percent completion, 3,660 yards, 27 touchdowns, 10 interceptions, 8.7 adjusted yards per attempt, 1,601 yards rushing, and 18 rushing touchdowns in a Power 5 conference.
  
  
  
• Player B: 56.3 percent completion, 1,812 yards, 16 touchdowns, six interceptions, 6.9 adjusted yards per attempt, 204 yards rushing, and five rushing touchdowns in Group of 5 conference.
  

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Josh Allen getting the Kyle Boller comps.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...osh-allen/

Or you can go with Player C 02

Player C : 65 percent completion, 4,904 yards, 37 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 10.03 adjusted yards per attempt, 10 rushing touchdowns in a Power 5 conference

hmmmmmm

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I really wasnt a Josh Allen fan at all but when I seen him at the Senior Bowl the guy was impressive.  I wouldn't hate the pick but is a high risk high reward, the highest ceiling of any player in the draft though.

Mason Rudolph? I’m a fan if he’s there in the 2nd.

Allen is intriguing mainly because he has such a strong arm, however, the more I actually watch him the less impressed I am. I can totally see him falling as draftniks scratch their heads. If you draft him, the hope is you can fix his mechanics, etc, so you can truly take advantage of that arm. He needs to play with much greater accuracy.

As for Rudolph, the write-ups I've read are scary suggesting he'd be an INT machine in the NFL, and he's got no mobility so you have to protect him in the pocket. That said, let's watch a game tape...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzToIJj8MIc

How about player D

67% completion, 3,581 yards, 25 TDs, 9 interceptions, 9.4 YPA, 6 rushing TDs.

?


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All these QBs in the draft are like a coin flip between moderate success and failure. That said, I'd stick to drafting a TE or OL in round 1 and go for a lower tier QB in round 6 (Memphis QB Riley Ferguson is a gun slinger that kind of reminds me of Bortles in college -- better spiral though so i'd give him a shot)