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I've been waiting to post my mock draft until the Buffalo Bills ultimately trade up into the top 8 picks, but it's looking more and more likely this won't get done until closer to the draft, So I'm just gonna go ahead and post what I have now. As usual, I do not predict trades, because they are just too hard to anticipate. I should have all the trades included that have already gone down. Once again, this is not what I want to happen in the draft, but it is how I see things playing out. Red type indicates an underclassman. Here goes..........


Round 1


1. Cleveland- Sam Darnold, QB, USC**
2. New York Giants- Bradley Chubb, DE, N.C. State
3. New York Jets (Via Indianapolis)- Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA**
4. Cleveland (Via Houston)- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State**
5. Denver- Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming**
6. Indianapolis (Via New York Jets)- Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame**
7. Tampa Bay- Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/S, Alabama**
8. Chicago- Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State**
9. San Francisco- Derwin James, S, Florida State**
10. Oakland- Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia**
11. Miami- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
12. Buffalo (Via Cincinnati)- Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech**
13. Washington- Vita Vea, DT, Washington
14. Green Bay- Joshua Jackson, CB, Iowa**
15. Arizona- Mike Hughes, CB, UCF**
16. Baltimore- Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama**
17. L.A. Chargers- Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama**
18. Seattle- Connor Williams, OT/OG, Texas**
19. Dallas- D.J. Moore, WR, Maryland**
20. Detroit- Marcus Davenport, DE, UTSA
21. Cincinnati (Via Buffalo)- James Daniels, C/OG, Iowa**
22. Buffalo (Via Kansas City)- Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State
23. L.A. Rams- Harold Landry, DE/OLB, Boston College
24. Carolina- Will Hernandez, OG, UTEP
25. Tennessee- Arden Key, DE/OLB, LSU**
26. Atlanta- Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M**
27. New Orleans- Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU**
28. Pittsburgh- Leighton Vander Esch, ILB, Boise State**
29. Jacksonville- D.J. Chark, WR, LSU
30. Minnesota- Ronnie Harrison, S, Alabama**
31. New England- Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama
32. Philadelphia- Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame


Round 2

33. Cleveland- Isaiah Oliver, CB, Colorado**
34. New York Giants- Derrius Guice, RB, LSU**
35. Cleveland (Via Houston)- Brian O’Neill, OT, Pitt**
36. Indianapolis- Sony Michel, RB, Georgia
37. Indianapolis (Via New York Jets)- Tavon Bryan, DE/DT, Florida**
38. Tampa Bay- Ronald Jones II, RB, USC**
39. Chicago- James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State
40. Denver- Isaiah Wynn, OG/OT, Georgia
41. Oakland- Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville**
42. Miami- Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State
43. New England (Via San Francisco)- Kolton Miller, OT, UCLA**
44. Washington- Anthony Miller, WR, Memphis
45. Green Bay- Justin Reid, S, Stanford**
46. Cincinnati- Jerome Baker, LB, Ohio State**
47. Arizona- Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville**
48. L.A. Chargers- Dante Pettis, WR/KR, Washington
49. Indianapolis (Via New York Jets Via Seattle)- Hercules Mata’afa, OLB, Washington State**
50. Dallas- Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan
51. Detroit- Rashaad Penny, RB, SDSU
52. Baltimore- Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State
53. Buffalo- Tyrell Crosby, OT, Oregon  
54. Kansas City- Armani Watts, S, Texas A&M
55. Buffalo (Via L.A. Rams)- Billy Price, C/OG, Ohio State
56. Carolina- Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State**
57. Tennessee- Tim Settle Jr., DT, Virginia Tech**
58. Atlanta- Frank Ragnow, C/OG, Arkansas
59. San Francisco (Via New Orleans)- Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, LEO/OLB, Oklahoma
60. Pittsburgh- Marcus Allen, S, Penn State
61. Jacksonville- Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina**
62. Minnesota- Shaquem Griffin, LB, UCF
63. New England- Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn**
64. Cleveland (Via Philadelphia)- Jessie Bates lll, S, Wake Forest**


Round 3

65. Buffalo (Via Cleveland)- Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia
66. New York Giants- Braden Smith, OG/OT, Auburn  
67. Indianapolis- Malik Jefferson, ILB, Texas**
68. Houston- Martinas Rankin, OT/OG, Mississippi State
69. New York Giants (Via Tampa Bay)- Mason Cole, C/OT/OG, Michigan
70. San Francisco (Via Chicago)- Uchenna Nwosu, LB, USC
71. Denver- Donte Jackson, CB, LSU**
72. New York Jets- Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma**
73. Miami- Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford**
74. San Francisco- Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame**
75. Oakland- Chukwuma Okorofar, OT, Western Michigan
76. Green Bay- Dorance Armstrong, OLB, Kansas**
77. Cincinnati- Austin Corbett, OG/OT, Nevada
78. Kansas City (Via Washington)- Mike McCray, ILB, Michigan
79. Arizona- Jamarco Jones, OT, Ohio State
80. Houston (Via Seattle)- Tavarus McFadden, CB, Florida State**
81. Dallas- Micah Kiser, LB, Virginia
82. Detroit- Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma**
83. Baltimore- Will Richardson, OT, North Carolina State**
84. L.A. Chargers- Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn
85. Carolina (Via Buffalo)- Jaylen Samuels, RB/FB/TE, North Carolina State
86. Kansas City- Anthony Avertt, CB, Alabama
87. L.A. Rams- Deon Cain, WR, Clemson**
88. Carolina- Keke Coutee, WR, Texas Tech**
89. Tennessee- Duke Dawson, CB, Florida
90. Atlanta- Rasheem Green, DT, USC**
91. New Orleans- Derrick Nnadi, DT, Florida State
92. Pittsburgh- Folorunso Fatukasi, DT, UConn.
93. Jacksonville- Colby Gossett, OG/OT, Appalachian State
94. Minnesota- Ian Thomas, TE, Indiana
95. New England- Luke Falk, QB, Washington State
96. Buffalo (Via Philadelphia)- Quenton Meeks, CB, Stanford**
97. Arizona- Duke Ejiofor, DE, Wake Forest
98. Houston- Jeff Holland, OLB, Auburn**
99. Denver- Geron Christian, OT, Louisville**
100. Cincinnati- Marcell Frazier, DE, Missouri


Round 4

101. Green Bay (Via Cleveland)- Brandon Parker, OT, North Carolina A&T
102. L.A. Rams (Via New York Giants)- Andrew Brown, DE/DT, Virginia 
103. Houston- Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa
104. Indianapolis- B.J. Hill, DT, North Carolina State
105. Chicago- Will Clapp, C/OG, LSU**
106. Denver- Christian Sam, ILB, Arizona State**
107. New York Jets- Lorenzo Carter, OLB, Georgia
108. New York Giants (Via Tampa Bay)- J.C. Jackson, CB, Maryland**
109. Denver (Via San Francisco)- Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon
110. Oakland- Deadrin Senat, DT, South Florida
111. L.A. Rams (Via Miami)- Wyatt Teller, OG, Virginia Tech
112. Cincinnati- Nathan Shepherd, DT, Fort Hays State
113. Washington- Jordan Whitehead, S, Pittsburgh**
114. Cleveland (Via Green Bay)- Josh Sweat, DE, Florida State**
115. Chicago (Via Arizona)- Breeleand Speaks, DE, Mississippi**
116. Dallas- Troy Fumagalli, TE, Wisconsin
117. Detroit- Darius Leonard, LB, South Carolina State
118. Baltimore- Kentavius Street, DE, N.C. State
119. L.A. Chargers- Quin Blanding, S, Virginia
120. Seattle- Dalton Schultz, TE, Stanford**
121. Buffalo- Jordan Lasley, WR, UCLA**
122. Kansas City- Genard Avery, ILB, Memphis
123. Kansas City (Via L.A. Rams)- Da’Shawn Hand, DE, Alabama
124. Miami (Via Cleveland Via Carolina)- Michael Gallup, WR, Colorado State
125. Tennessee- Christian LaCouture, DE, LSU
126. Atlanta- Jeremy Reaves, S, South Alabama
127. New Orleans- Jordan Atkins, TE, UCF**
128. San Francisco (Via Pittsburgh)- Nick Nelson, CB, Wisconsin**
129. Jacksonville- Mike White, QB, Western Kentucky
130. Philadelphia (Via Minnesota)- Sam Jones, OG, ASU**
131. Philadelphia (Via New England)- J’Mon Moore, WR, Missouri
132. Miami (Via Philadelphia)- Cole Madison, OT, Washington State
133. Green Bay- Skyler Phillips, OG, Idaho State
134. Arizona- Allen Lazard, WR, Iowa State
135. Tampa Bay (Via New York Giants)- Taylor Hearn, OG, Clemson**
136. New England- Marquis Haynes, DE/OLB, Mississippi  
137. Dallas- M.J. Stewart, CB, North Carolina


Round 5

138. Green Bay (Via Cleveland)- Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana**
139. New York Giants- James Hearns, OLB, Louisville
140. Indianapolis- Tre’Quan Smith, WR, UCF**
141. Seattle (Via Houston)- Ja’Von Rolland-Jones, LEO/OLB, Arkansas State
142. Denver- Godwin Igwebuike, S, Northwestern
143. San Francisco (Via New York Jets)- Tony Adams, OG, N.C. State
144. Tampa Bay- Deontay Burnett, WR, USC**
145. Chicago- Garrett Dooley, OLB, Wisconsin
146. Seattle (Via Oakland)- Antonio Callaway, WR, Florida**  
147. New Orleans (Via Miami)- Darius Phillips, CB, Western Michigan
148. Pittsburgh (Via San Francisco)- Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama**
149. Washington- Terrell Edmunds, S, Virginia Tech**
150. New England (Via Cleveland Via Green Bay)- Kerryon Johnson, RB, Auburn**
151. Cincinnati- DeShon Elliott, S, Texas**
152. Arizona- Tray Matthews, S, Auburn
153. Detroit- Sean Welsh, OG/C, Iowa
154. Baltimore- Olasunkanmi Adeniyi, OLB, Toledo**
155. L.A. Chargers- Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond
156. Philadelphia (Via Seattle)- Dorian O’ Daniel, LB, Clemson
157. New York Jets (Via Dallas)- Durham Smythe, TE, Notre Dame
158. Cincinnati (Via Buffalo)- DaeSean Hamilton, WR, Penn State
159. Cleveland (Via Kansas City)- Cody O’Connell, OG, Washington State
160. Denver (Via L.A. Rams)- Auden Tate, WR, Florida State**
161. Carolina- Holton Hill, CB, Texas**
162. Tennessee- Maea Teuhema, OG, Southeast Louisiana**
163. Denver (Via Atlanta)- Chad Thomas, DE, Miami
164. New Orleans- Desmond Harrison, OT, West Georgia
165. Pittsburgh- Chase Litton, QB, Marshall**
166. Buffalo (Via Jacksonville)- Tyquan Lewis, DE, Ohio State
167. Minnesota- Kevin Toliver, CB, LSU**
168. Oakland (Via New England)- Christopher Herndon IV, TE, Miami (Fla.)
169. Seattle (Via Philadelphia)- Siran Neal, S, Jacksonville State
170. Cincinnati- Kurt Benkert, QB, Virginia
171. Dallas- Kemoko Turay, DE, Rutgers
172. Green Bay- R.J. McIntosh, DE/DT, Miami**
173. Oakland (Via Dallas)- Marcell Ateman, WR, Oklahoma State
174. Green Bay- Dmitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma

Round 6  
 
175. Cleveland- Daurice Fountain, WR, Northern Iowa
176. L.A. Rams (Via New York Giants)- Peter Kalambayi, OLB, Stanford
177. Houston- Kalen Ballage, RB, Arizona State
178. Indianapolis- Tony Brown, CB, Alabama  
179. New York Jets- Mark Walton, RB, Miami (Fla.)**
180. Tampa Bay- Greg Gilmore, DT, LSU
181. Chicago- Nick Gates, OG/OT, Nebraska**
182. Denver- Sione Teuhema, OLB, Southeast Louisiana
183. L.A. Rams (Via Miami)- Joel Iyiegbuniwe ILB Western Kentucky
184. San Francisco- Joseph Noteboom, OT, TCU
185. New England (Via Oakland)- JoJo Wicker, DE, Arizona State**
186. Green Bay- Justin Jones, DT, N.C. State
187. Buffalo (Via Cincinnati)- Poona Ford, DT, Texas
188. Washington- Josh Adams, RB, Notre Dame**  
189. New Orleans (Via Arizona)- Tegray Scales, LB, Indiana
190. Baltimore- Riley Ferguson, QB, Memphis
191. L.A. Chargers- Timon Parris, OT, Stony Brook
192. Dallas (Via Oakland Via Seattle)- Ike Boettger, OT/OG, Iowa
193. Dallas- Isaac Yiadom, S/CB, Boston College
194. L.A. Rams (Via Detroit)- Tyler Conklin, TE, Central Michigan
195. L.A. Rams (Via Buffalo)- Scott Quessenberry, C/OG, UCLA**
196. Kansas City- Jamil Demby, OG/OT, Maine
197. Miami (Via L.A. Rams)- Brendan Mahon, OG, Penn State
198. Carolina- P.J. Hall, DT, Sam Houston State
199. Tennessee- Trey Walker, S, La. Lafayette
200. Atlanta- Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech
201. New Orleans- Logan Woodside, QB, Toledo
202. Tampa Bay (Via Pittsburgh)- Kyzir White, S, West Virginia
203. Jacksonville- Oren Burks, LB, Vanderbilt
204. Minnesota- Javon Wims, WR, Georgia
205. Cleveland (via New England)- Fred Warner, LB, BYU
206. Philadelphia- Michael Dickson, P, Texas
207. Green Bay- Shaun Dion Hamilton, ILB, Alabama
208. Dallas- David Bright, OG/OT, Stanford
209. L.A. Rams (via Kansas City)- Aaron Stinnie, OT, James Madison
210. Oakland- Tyrone Crowder, OG, Clemson
211. Houston- Bradley Bozeman, C/OG, Alabama
212. Oakland- Secdrick Cooper, S, La. Tech
213. Minnesota- Toby Weathersby, OT, LSU**
214. Houston- Cam Serigne, TE, Wake Forest
215. Baltimore- Byron Pringle, WR, Kansas State**
216. Oakland- Nyheim Hines, RB, North Carolina State**
217. Oakland- Justin Lawler, DE, SMU
218. Minnesota- Josh Fatu, DT, USC

Round 7

219. New England (Via Cleveland)- Dane Cruikshank, S, Arizona
220. Pittsburgh (Via New York Giants)- Alex Cappa, OG/OT, Humboldt State
221. Indianapolis- Matt Pryor, OT/OG, TCU
222. Houston- Kendrick Norton, DT, Miami**
223. Miami (Via Tampa Bay)- Frank Ginda, LB, San Jose State**
224. Chicago- Cedrick Wilson, WR, Boise State
225. Minnesota (Via Denver)- Matt Gono, OG/OT, Wesley
226. Philadelphia (Via Seattle Via New York Jets)- Nic Shimonek, QB, Texas Tech
227. Miami (Via San Francisco)- Kameron Kelly, S/CB, San Diego State
228. Oakland- Christian Campbell, CB, Penn State
229. Miami- Joe Ostman, DE, Central Michigan
230. Jacksonville (Via Cincinnati)- Jalen Davis, CB, Utah State
231. Washington- D.J. Reed, CB, Kansas State**
232. Green Bay- Rashaan Gaulden, CB, Tennessee**  
233. Arizona- Nick DeLuca, LB, North Dakota State
234. Buffalo (Via L.A. Chargers)- Damon Webb, S, Ohio State
235. New York Jets (Via Seattle)- James Looney, DE, California
236. Green Bay (Via Dallas)- Ito Smith, RB, Southern Mississippi
237. Detroit- Bilal Nichols, DT, Delaware
238. Arizona (Via Baltimore)- Corey Helms, OG/C, South Carolina
239. Green Bay (Via Buffalo)- Jaleel Scott, WR, New Mexico State
240. San Francisco (Via Kansas City)- John Kelly, RB, Tennessee**
241. Washington (Via L.A. Rams)- Mat Boesen, OLB, TCU
242. Carolina- Tre Flowers, S, Oklahoma State
243. Kansas City (Via Tennessee)- Anthony Winbush, OLB, Ball State
244. Atlanta- Trent Harris, LEO/OLB, Miami
245. New Orleans- Van Smith, S, Clemson**
246. Pittsburgh- Parry Nickerson, CB, Tulane
247. Jacksonville- Jeromy Irwin, OT, Colorado
248. Seattle (Via Minnesota)- Bruce Hector, DT, South Florida
249. Cincinnati (Via New England)- Michael Joseph, CB, Dubuque
250. Philadelphia- Will Dissly, TE, Washington
251. L.A. Chargers- Danny Johnson, CB, Southern
252. Cincinnati- Bunmi Rotimi, DE, Old Dominion
253. Cincinnati- Zach Crabtree, OT, Oklahoma State
254. Arizona- Quinton Flowers, RB/QB/WR, South Florida
255. Tampa Bay- Skai Moore, LB, South Carolina
254. Atlanta- Jalyn Holmes, DE, Ohio State

Really not a fan of WR in round 1. Where do you think he gets PT? We PAID 2 guys who obviously won't sit on the bench earning that much coin and there are two exciting 2nd year guys who need to get PT as well. I think Chark would be at best the #4 WR in this group
In this mock I would go:
Rd. 1: Dallas Goedert/Isiah Wynn/Mike Gesicki/Frank Ragnow/Ronnie Harrison/Lamar Jackson
Rd. 2: Hayden Hurst/Shaq Griffin/Braden Smith/Chukwuma Okorofar/Dorance Armstrong/Mark Andrews
Rd. 3: Luke Falk/Joey Jewell/Michael Gallup/Deadrin Senat
Rd. 4: Kalen Ballage/Kyzir White
The rest irdk about so I won't argue you on those

(03-23-2018, 01:00 AM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]Really not a fan of WR in round 1. Where do you think he gets PT? We PAID 2 guys who obviously won't sit on the bench earning that much coin and there are two exciting 2nd year guys who need to get PT as well. I think Chark would be at best the #4 WR in this group

Maybe at first, but I could see him eventually battling Moncrief and possibly taking over the top spot by season's end.

Two more thoughts on the early rounds as I still don't know much after about round two...

1. I'd still have to consider Lamar Jackson at #29.
2. When I saw Goedert and Gesicki getting passed up at #29, at first I thought we need to grab one of them, but then knowing they both dropped makes the chances of Hurst being there for our round two pick even more likely. Getting Hurst in round two in my book is the better bargain so I get taking the risk. Still, it's really tough for me to actually pass on Goedert if he does fall. 

(03-23-2018, 01:04 AM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-23-2018, 01:00 AM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]Really not a fan of WR in round 1. Where do you think he gets PT? We PAID 2 guys who obviously won't sit on the bench earning that much coin and there are two exciting 2nd year guys who need to get PT as well. I think Chark would be at best the #4 WR in this group

Maybe at first, but I could see him eventually battling Moncrief and possibly taking over the top spot by season's end.

Two more thoughts on the early rounds as I still don't know much after about round two...

1. I'd still have to consider Lamar Jackson at #29.
2. When I saw Goedert and Gesicki getting passed up at #29, at first I thought we need to grab one of them, but then knowing they both dropped makes the chances of Hurst being there for our round two pick even more likely. Getting Hurst in round two in my book is the better bargain so I get taking the risk. Still, it's really tough for me to actually pass on Goedert if he does fall. 

I just can't see them putting $10 million guy 2nd fiddle to a rookie in a weak class and then putting the $18 million guy at #3, not to mention Cole falling to the #4 and rarely seeing the field. Then Dede becomes never used and that pick was wasted.

Good stuff.

Haven't looked through it all yet but the John Kelly, Mark Walton and Nyheim Hines in rounds 6/7 seems bananas. Particularly given they are all top 10/15 backs in this class, for me at least.

(03-23-2018, 12:55 AM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]I could get behind DJ Chark if he's the pick. Gutsy call tho over Isaiah Wynn and Rashaan Evans.

I'm not a huge Rashaan Evans fan, especially for our defensive scheme. Isaiah Wynn is a LG/LT prospect and moving him to the right side would be a bit of a change. This definitely factored into my decision. My gut tells me we will be looking for a natural RG/RT. I don't know why, but there's just something about Gossett that makes me believe he is our target. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of taking a WR with our first pick, given our QB situation. With Mason Rudolph gone though, Chark shows the most upside of any receiver (WR or TE), in this draft. He has height, speed, athleticism, hands and route running. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he was gone by the time we pick. If he would have been on a college team with more of an emphasis on the passing game or even if he had a somewhat competent QB throwing to him, I really believe he would be the hands down, top receiver in this class. I know this is controversial, but I see more potential upside in him than OBJ.

Solid draft but if I'm the Jags I'm taking Wynn or Guice over Chark. We need help up front and Wynn helps the team more than Chark. Guice over Chark for pure need of offense. They wanna pound da rock and we need a big horse behind LF. If LF goes down with a big injury we ain't pounding da rock with Yeldon and Grant. Not happening.

(03-23-2018, 01:00 AM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]Really not a fan of WR in round 1. Where do you think he gets PT? We PAID 2 guys who obviously won't sit on the bench earning that much coin and there are two exciting 2nd year guys who need to get PT as well. I think Chark would be at best the #4 WR in this group
In this mock I would go:
Rd. 1: Dallas Goedert/Isiah Wynn/Mike Gesicki/Frank Ragnow/Ronnie Harrison/Lamar Jackson
Rd. 2: Hayden Hurst/Shaq Griffin/Braden Smith/Chukwuma Okorofar/Dorance Armstrong/Mark Andrews
Rd. 3: Luke Falk/Joey Jewell/Michael Gallup/Deadrin Senat
Rd. 4: Kalen Ballage/Kyzir White
The rest irdk about so I won't argue you on those

I think he would be worked in gradually as the X receiver. That is something we are obviously missing for this lineup. He may not start right away, as WR's rarely make an impact their rookie season, especially with the emphasis on the running game, but I truly believe he would be the perfect compliment to Cole and Westbrook, giving us the most dynamic young WR trio in the NFL. He would make Lee expendable, which is what I thought he was already. Lee's skill set or lack thereof, just makes him an odd fit for this offense. I have no idea why he was re-signed to begin with. 

Personally, I see no TE worthy of a first round pick and Wynn is a natural LG/LT. I believe we will be looking for a natural RG/RT. I believe Billy Price would be an option before Ragnow. In fact, I almost made Price the selection. Harrison is more of a Strong Safety IMO and if we took a Safety, I believe we'd go with a true Free Safety. I am no fan at all of Jackson. He is a skinny, project QB who relies too much on his running. I believe he is a bad fit for this offense and may never develop as a passer. On top of that, he is an unfinished product who should have stayed in school. Coughlin doesn't like early entries at the QB position. I believe he is targeting a Senior at the QB spot.

(03-23-2018, 01:04 AM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-23-2018, 01:00 AM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]Really not a fan of WR in round 1. Where do you think he gets PT? We PAID 2 guys who obviously won't sit on the bench earning that much coin and there are two exciting 2nd year guys who need to get PT as well. I think Chark would be at best the #4 WR in this group

Maybe at first, but I could see him eventually battling Moncrief and possibly taking over the top spot by season's end.

Two more thoughts on the early rounds as I still don't know much after about round two...

1. I'd still have to consider Lamar Jackson at #29.
2. When I saw Goedert and Gesicki getting passed up at #29, at first I thought we need to grab one of them, but then knowing they both dropped makes the chances of Hurst being there for our round two pick even more likely. Getting Hurst in round two in my book is the better bargain so I get taking the risk. Still, it's really tough for me to actually pass on Goedert if he does fall. 

Jackson isn't even an option in my mind. He's a skinny, unfinished product at QB and I don't believe he will ever develop as a passer. He should've stayed in school. Coughlin is not a fan of early entries at the QB position either. I believe he covets a Senior signal caller. If Jackson gets chosen in round one by a team, it's purely out of desperation. IMO, drafting Jackson would be the worst mistake we could make at QB. It would be a wasted opportunity to get an immediate starter or future star.

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(03-23-2018, 01:12 AM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-23-2018, 01:04 AM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe at first, but I could see him eventually battling Moncrief and possibly taking over the top spot by season's end.

Two more thoughts on the early rounds as I still don't know much after about round two...

1. I'd still have to consider Lamar Jackson at #29.
2. When I saw Goedert and Gesicki getting passed up at #29, at first I thought we need to grab one of them, but then knowing they both dropped makes the chances of Hurst being there for our round two pick even more likely. Getting Hurst in round two in my book is the better bargain so I get taking the risk. Still, it's really tough for me to actually pass on Goedert if he does fall. 

I just can't see them putting $10 million guy 2nd fiddle to a rookie in a weak class and then putting the $18 million guy at #3, not to mention Cole falling to the #4 and rarely seeing the field. Then Dede becomes never used and that pick was wasted.

That money we paid Lee was out of desperation and it's really not much considering what other guys got. This was a very weak FA WR class and we didn't want to pay big bucks for a mid tier receiver, when Norwell was apparently our big FA target all along. I believe Dede and Cole would get used the same as they ever would be. Their spots would be safe. Lee would be the odd man out. He just brings nothing special to this offense and would be easily replaceable.

(03-23-2018, 05:45 AM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]Solid draft but if I'm the Jags I'm taking Wynn or Guice over Chark. We need help up front and Wynn helps the team more than Chark. Guice over Chark for pure need of offense. They wanna pound da rock and we need a big horse behind LF. If LF goes down with a big injury we ain't pounding da rock with Yeldon and Grant. Not happening.

As I said before, I believe we covet a true RG/RT and Wynn has started on the left side his entire college career. For some players changing sides is no big deal and for others it is. Guice? I don't get that one. Fournette is our workhorse and we have very good depth behind him. I'm a huge fan of Rashad Penny, but considering what we already have at RB, I wouldn't even consider him for this team. If we take another RB, I believe it will come via UDFA. There should still be some decent quality on the board after the draft.

(03-23-2018, 01:42 AM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Good stuff.

Haven't looked through it all yet but the John Kelly, Mark Walton and Nyheim Hines in rounds 6/7 seems bananas. Particularly given they are all top 10/15 backs in this class, for me at least.

IMO, Kelly and Hines are complimentary/3rd down backs, thus pushing them down the board. I just don't see them as "the guy" for an NFL running game. I do believe they will end up being very important pieces, especially as pass catchers out of the backfield. I see them both as "poor man's" Alvin Kamara's. With Walton, the one year out of football and disappointing 40 time, might push him down the board, but if he comes back 100% healthy, he could be a steal.

Glad you like DJ Moore as much as I do, I feel like he's very high in our board due to his relationship with Coach Thunder

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That being said, I personally am not a fan of Chark. Just doesn't have the production and I know LSU offense and Etling were bad but I just don't see him being that much more productive due to his limited route tree.

(03-23-2018, 06:06 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-23-2018, 01:42 AM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Good stuff.

Haven't looked through it all yet but the John Kelly, Mark Walton and Nyheim Hines in rounds 6/7 seems bananas. Particularly given they are all top 10/15 backs in this class, for me at least.

IMO, Kelly and Hines are complimentary/3rd down backs, thus pushing them down the board. I just don't see them as "the guy" for an NFL running game. I do believe they will end up being very important pieces, especially as pass catchers out of the backfield. I see them both as "poor man's" Alvin Kamara's. With Walton, the one year out of football and disappointing 40 time, might push him down the board, but if he comes back 100% healthy, he could be a steal.

Pass catching backs are quite valuable in today's NFL. Hines is a legit 4.3 guy who used to be a WR in college. Good blocker and can split out wide. He'll go top 3 rounds.   

Kelly and Walton are both very talented runners in their own right. I'd say top 4 rounds for both.

Would rather Goedert, Gesicki, Price, or Ragnow in the first and would sprint to the podium if Gallup was there in the 3rd

(03-23-2018, 06:24 AM)ColoJag Wrote: [ -> ]Glad you like DJ Moore as much as I do, I feel like he's very high in our board due to his relationship with Coach Thunder

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That being said, I personally am not a fan of Chark. Just doesn't have the production and I know LSU offense and Etling were bad but I just don't see him being that much more productive due to his limited route tree.

To be totally honest, once Rudolph was gone, I wasn't totally on board with any one guy for this pick. I don't project trades, because they are too hard to predict, but if Rudolph is gone as in this scenario and the board falls like it did here, I'd do everything in my power to trade down.

(03-23-2018, 07:06 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Would rather Goedert, Gesicki, Price, or Ragnow in the first and would sprint to the podium if Gallup was there in the 3rd

Gallup isn't even quite 6'1" and given what we already have, I wouldn't draft a WR under 6'2". We need big, redzone targets. I don't wanna take shots in the redzone by trying to throw fades to average size receivers. We need to add a big bodied pass catcher to play opposite a couple of TE's in redzone schemes.

(03-23-2018, 06:00 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]As I said before, I believe we covet a true RG/RT and Wynn has started on the left side his entire college career.

This is a huge "so what?" It takes OTs about 4 starts to comfortably change sides. Guards even less. Wynn would be an awesome pick, and I'd take him EASILY over Hernandez.

(03-23-2018, 09:38 AM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-23-2018, 06:00 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]As I said before, I believe we covet a true RG/RT and Wynn has started on the left side his entire college career.

This is a huge "so what?" It takes OTs about 4 starts to comfortably change sides. Guards even less. Wynn would be an awesome pick, and I'd take him EASILY over Hernandez.

For some guys it doesn't matter, but for others it does. Sometimes moving to the other end of the line means they have to adjust to using their non-dominant side and it is something they just never get adjusted to. For others, it is no big deal, but it's different for everyone.

Not buying the Josh Sweat hype I guess? I've seen him in the first round in some mocks lately.