With current 2019 contract commitments on the books, the Jags have a reported league worst $16-18m over the projected 2019 cap. Some expensive guys on the 53 this season will likely not be back in 2019. Do the Jags make a draft pick or picks this year, knowing they will need to groom cheap starters to replace some guys they anticipate to let go after this season?
Finding a replacement to groom this year for Parnell makes sense, as he has a 2019 cap of $6.0m and no dead money if released after this season. They are rumored to be bringing in mid round OTs.
Also, for the same future cap rationale, it would not surprise me to see them take a DT to groom somewhere in this draft. Jackson and Dareus are on the 2019 books for about $27m, and could save nearly $23m ($11m Jackson and $12m Dareus) if released following the season. My gut says at least one of these guys will be gone after this season to get the cap.
I assume the Jags will use the draft and replace costly vet approach to manage their cap for sustained success, instead of mortgaging the future by manipulating 2019 contract commitments (convert salary to signing bonus and pushing cap to future years). It will be interesting to watch their strategy with certain picks in the draft.
So I’m 99% sure that number doesn’t include rollover... Try and repeat to yourself, “We’ll be fine. We’ll be fine. We’ll be fine.”
Why why why are some fans so eager to cut Malik Jackson? He's been extremely good for us. Chill
There's just so much that can happen between now and the time the Jags are really approaching a deadline of dishing out big new contracts.
Some of these things will work themselves out organically.
Could the Jags look to draft a DT in 2018 to help out should they need to cut Dareus? Sure. It's possible. I doubt it's a priority - but it could happen.
With the free agent moves and trades they have made this off-season, a defensive tackle or end who unexpectedly fall to pick 29 will be considered. Payne from Alabama or Davenport would be hard to pass on even though these positions currently are very solid. Taking BPA rarely turns out badly and I expect the Jaguars to do this on draft day.
(04-03-2018, 05:44 PM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]So I’m 99% sure that number doesn’t include rollover... Try and repeat to yourself, “We’ll be fine. We’ll be fine. We’ll be fine.”
I think it does include rollover. Spending the rollover in 2018 puts us way over the cap for 2019.
cap space by team
If you click the above link, and click on "2019" you see the Jags are way over the 2019 cap.
Of course, you are correct. We will be fine. But it does mean we will have to do some maneuvering, including cutting some expensive veterans and replacing them with inexpensive draftees. Campbell might be gone, Dareus might be gone, Malik Jackson might get restructured, Parnell might be gone. And so on.
And if you look at the individual contracts, you can see that among the veterans, we could get significant cap savings in 2019 by cutting certain veterans Dareus, Campbell, Gipson, Church, Parnell. I'm leaving out Malik Jackson on purpose but if we released him we could save $11 million on our cap. And that doesn't even include re-signing Dante Fowler, who's not even under contract for 2019.
So it seems like if we go the route of the OP, then our best opportunities for drafting cheaper replacements would be at defensive line and both safety positions, and one offensive tackle.
Fill the needs we need to fill for this coming season and worry about future needs in the 2019 draft.
(04-04-2018, 09:25 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Fill the needs we need to fill for this coming season and worry about future needs in the 2019 draft.
Of course, but it we can do both with the same pick- that's even better. If we get into the 3rd round and beyond, and the highest rated players left on the board would both be backup players in 2018, take the one that is more likely to start in 2019.
There are a lot of options of players that could be cut in order to free up space after the 2018 season.
Players if cut and the Cap savings:
Dareus - 10.6 Million
Campbell - 9.5 Million
Parnell - 6 Million
Gipson - 7.4 Million
Church - 6.2 Million
Nortman 2.2 Million
Dareus is as good as gone next year unless he's willing to take a big pay cut. The cap is going to go up, players salaries will be converted to guaranteed money to free up space, etc. There's no reason to be scared, Idzik is a cap guru and the cap is pretty fluid anyway.
I don't see Jackson going anywhere. We're unlikely to find a 3-tech anywhere near his talent in the draft. He's probably one of the people we can redo his contract so he gets paid about the same but it saves us cap space.
Yeah, the only person I might look at cap casualties to grab now would be Maurice Hurst since Dareus/Malik/Campbell would be where we'd have to start making those $ cuts. He was a top ~10 player before the heart condition sprang up, so if worries about that do cause him to fall to 29 he could be a Myles Jack type steal for us if the team is comfortable with it.
(04-05-2018, 06:08 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, the only person I might look at cap casualties to grab now would be Maurice Hurst since Dareus/Malik/Campbell would be where we'd have to start making those $ cuts. He was a top ~10 player before the heart condition sprang up, so if worries about that do cause him to fall to 29 he could be a Myles Jack type steal for us if the team is comfortable with it.
Why? We wouldn't have to cut him until after the season, so why not keep him and then draft his replacement in 2019. Now, we need to focus on RG, TE, QB, 3rd down LB, competition at Nickle, a big possession WR and a swing Tackle and we only have seven picks.
Because if you get the opportunity to get a top 10 player that falls for reasons you are comfortable with it would be wise to strongly consider it. Especially when it's a position that is likely to be a need in the near future. I am not as myopic as you.
(04-04-2018, 11:07 AM)BlueEyedJag Wrote: [ -> ]There are a lot of options of players that could be cut in order to free up space after the 2018 season.
Players if cut and the Cap savings:
Dareus - 10.6 Million
Campbell - 9.5 Million
Parnell - 6 Million
Gipson - 7.4 Million
Church - 6.2 Million
Nortman 2.2 Million
Church and Gipson to me are liabilities that could be replaced in the draft in 2019/FA. That's 13.6 Million
Bye Bye Nortman. 2.2 Million
Re work Dareus deal.
That's 16 Million+ in Cap savings.
I think this has to be in their thinking.
There’s no need to worry about it, because the roster has got plenty of room for manoeuvre. And it should be straightforward to make space by cutting a couple of players/restructuring/rolling over cap space.
But yes it definitely makes sense to look for cheap replacements for players like Dareus, Gipson, Parnell, Yeldon etc.
I think it gets interesting if they are faced with a choice of doing this or adding another CB or QB in the middle rounds (which arguably won’t need cheaper replacements)
(04-06-2018, 09:11 PM)JAGFAN4EVER! Wrote: [ -> ] (04-04-2018, 11:07 AM)BlueEyedJag Wrote: [ -> ]There are a lot of options of players that could be cut in order to free up space after the 2018 season.
Players if cut and the Cap savings:
Dareus - 10.6 Million
Campbell - 9.5 Million
Parnell - 6 Million
Gipson - 7.4 Million
Church - 6.2 Million
Nortman 2.2 Million
Church and Gipson to me are liabilities that could be replaced in the draft in 2019/FA. That's 13.6 Million
Bye Bye Nortman. 2.2 Million
Re work Dareus deal.
That's 16 Million+ in Cap savings.
I really like Church, but I agree about Gipson and Nortman. They can be upgraded. I wanna keep Parnell for the 2018 season, but I do think we can find a RT who would allow us to cut him as well before the 2019 season. I'd love to find a solid swing Tackle at the end of this draft, that we could groom to be the RT of the future.