http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...r-mayfield
In this draft we trade back with the Browns (they come up to 29 to get Connor Williams) and we get #33 and their 4th rd pick (#114).
Our picks:
2nd rd From Browns (#33): Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M
2nd rd (#61) Isiah Oliver, CB, Colorado
3rd rd (#93) Troy Fumagalli, TE, Wisconsin
4th rd From Browns (#114) Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon
4th rd (#129) Micah Kiser, LB, Virginia
(Draft only goes 5 rounds and we don't have a 5th rd pick because of the Dareus trade)
I like the trade because we got a guy most people would consider a 1st rd talent at #33 and Royce Freeman. I'm very anti-WR with our 1st pick, so my preference with this mock would be:
2nd rd From Browns (#33) Will Hernandez/Isiah Wynn/Brian O'Neill/Rashaan Evans/Tyrell Crosby/Billy Price/Malik Jefferson
2nd rd (#61) Mason Rudolph/Anthony Miller/Braden Smith/Mark Andrews/Arden Key/Equanimeious St. Brown/Shaq Griffin
3rd rd (#93) Duke Dawson/Michael Gallup/Austin Corbett/Jamarco Jones
4th rd From Browns (#114) Royce Freeman (I like the pick)/Kemoko Turay/Chukwuma Okorafor/Jaylen Samuels
4th rd (#129) Deadrin Senat/Armani Watts/Tim Settle/Luke Falk/Auden Tate/Chase Litton
I think it'll be pretty universal that we'd all be happy with the trade down and unhappy with the actual picks.
I'm sure glad Reuter will have nothing to do with our actual draft picks. The only thing he did which was fine was trading down to gain an extra 4th rounder. Kirk and Oliver are good players, but in this scenerio the Jags should go with either Wynn or Crosby with their first pick and Rudolph with the 2nd. I doubt seriously Rudolph will be available at that point anyway. I also like Dawson or Gallup in the 3rd round. Of all the tight ends, Fumagalli is the last one I'd take. He's a good blocker, but not a great receiving threat.
(04-07-2018, 04:41 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]I think it'll be pretty universal that we'd all be happy with the trade down and unhappy with the actual picks.
Agreed. If we go 4 rounds without adding a QB, I'm gonna be livid.
A draft of Hernandez, Rudolph, Gallup/Dawson, Freeman, and BAP would make me very very happy
(04-07-2018, 04:46 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (04-07-2018, 04:41 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]I think it'll be pretty universal that we'd all be happy with the trade down and unhappy with the actual picks.
Agreed. If we go 4 rounds without adding a QB, I'm gonna be livid.
I wouldn't care. I don't want to spend a 1st rounder on a QB. Kessler is as good as anything available after round 1. A QB just doesn't make sense in this draft.
(04-07-2018, 05:09 PM)brianmsbc Wrote: [ -> ] (04-07-2018, 04:46 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed. If we go 4 rounds without adding a QB, I'm gonna be livid.
I wouldn't care. I don't want to spend a 1st rounder on a QB. Kessler is as good as anything available after round 1. A QB just doesn't make sense in this draft.
I disagree. 110%.
I honestly don't like any of it. I don't mind the trade down though. But as far as the actual selections it just doesn't make a ton of sense to me.
Kirk is another small, shifty receiver. We have three of those guys on the team already built like that between Lee, Cole & Westbrook. Oliver at CB, again, kind of a head scratcher there if they go CB that early when they've already invested in Ramsey, Bouye and picked up Hayden to replace Colvin. Fumagalli isn't a bad pick up. But I would rather go TE a round later potentially and land a more prominent blocker. And I honestly don't know who the last two players are.
I would do this with those selections. And I am being as realistic as possible where most guys are projected to go.
2nd rd From Browns (#33): Billy Price, G/C, Ohio State
2nd rd (#61) Orlando Brown, RT, Oklahoma
3rd rd (#93) Darius Leonard, ILB/OLB, South Carolina State
4th rd From Browns (#114) Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond
4th rd (#129) Rashaad Penny, RB, San Diego State
(04-07-2018, 08:01 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]I honestly don't like any of it. I don't mind the trade down though. But as far as the actual selections it just doesn't make a ton of sense to me.
Kirk is another small, shifty receiver. We have three of those guys on the team already built like that between Lee, Cole & Westbrook. Oliver at CB, again, kind of a head scratcher there if they go CB that early when they've already invested in Ramsey, Bouye and picked up Hayden to replace Colvin. Fumagalli isn't a bad pick up. But I would rather go TE a round later potentially and land a more prominent blocker. And I honestly don't know who the last two players are.
I would do this with those selections. And I am being as realistic as possible where most guys are projected to go.
2nd rd From Browns (#33): Billy Price, G/C, Ohio State
2nd rd (#61) Orlando Brown, RT, Oklahoma
3rd rd (#93) Darius Leonard, ILB/OLB, South Carolina State
4th rd From Browns (#114) Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond
4th rd (#129) Rashaad Penny, RB, San Diego State
Penny in the 4th would be a big surprise.
(04-07-2018, 08:15 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (04-07-2018, 08:01 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]I honestly don't like any of it. I don't mind the trade down though. But as far as the actual selections it just doesn't make a ton of sense to me.
Kirk is another small, shifty receiver. We have three of those guys on the team already built like that between Lee, Cole & Westbrook. Oliver at CB, again, kind of a head scratcher there if they go CB that early when they've already invested in Ramsey, Bouye and picked up Hayden to replace Colvin. Fumagalli isn't a bad pick up. But I would rather go TE a round later potentially and land a more prominent blocker. And I honestly don't know who the last two players are.
I would do this with those selections. And I am being as realistic as possible where most guys are projected to go.
2nd rd From Browns (#33): Billy Price, G/C, Ohio State
2nd rd (#61) Orlando Brown, RT, Oklahoma
3rd rd (#93) Darius Leonard, ILB/OLB, South Carolina State
4th rd From Browns (#114) Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond
4th rd (#129) Rashaad Penny, RB, San Diego State
Penny in the 4th would be a big surprise.
It would, but I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to it. He's my favorite RB in the entire class. I think a one-two punch of him and Fournette could be like what we had with Fred Taylor and MJD.
(04-07-2018, 08:34 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (04-07-2018, 08:15 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Penny in the 4th would be a big surprise.
It would, but I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to it. He's my favorite RB in the entire class. I think a one-two punch of him and Fournette could be like what we had with Fred Taylor and MJD.
Nah I love the player. Just won't make it to the 4th.
(04-07-2018, 08:41 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (04-07-2018, 08:34 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]It would, but I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to it. He's my favorite RB in the entire class. I think a one-two punch of him and Fournette could be like what we had with Fred Taylor and MJD.
Nah I love the player. Just won't make it to the 4th.
I agree with you on that. I don't think he makes it out of round 2.
The draft party at the stadium is gonna suck if this mockery mock draft comes true which is highly unlikely.
(04-07-2018, 08:47 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (04-07-2018, 08:41 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Nah I love the player. Just won't make it to the 4th.
I agree with you on that. I don't think he makes it out of round 2.
Would love to see that backfield though. Big mauling line with two big home run threats barreling at defenses every play.
No defense in the league wants to play against that.
Only thing stopping Penny is his pass blocking.
I was tempted to slot Penny in the 3rd RD. He's very talented. It may be wishful thinking with him being that far down in RD4. The only other RB that I can think of in RD4 there instead of Penny is Kalen Ballage out of Arizona State. Whose decent in his own right. He just wasn't used a whole lot in college. But he has an excellent nose for the end zone and he's surprisingly really good coming out of the backfield in passing situations. He's another big dude with speed like Fournette.
There's zero chance Mason Rudolph doesn't go in the first 2 rounds. Personally, I think he goes in the first.
(04-07-2018, 11:47 PM)JagswinJagswin Wrote: [ -> ]There's zero chance Mason Rudolph doesn't go in the first 2 rounds. Personally, I think he goes in the first.
Agreed. Especially now with New England and Buffalo scheduling meetings with him. This is a very QB needy year and once you get through the top five - six prospects there's a sharp decline in talent and potential. But I still feel like this year's QB class reeks of the 2011 QB class. We'll see a handful of QB's over drafted in RD1 that end up amounting to nothing and then probably a pair of QB's selected in RD2 that turn out decent.
(04-07-2018, 11:47 PM)JagswinJagswin Wrote: [ -> ]There's zero chance Mason Rudolph doesn't go in the first 2 rounds. Personally, I think he goes in the first.
I agree.
(04-07-2018, 11:54 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (04-07-2018, 11:47 PM)JagswinJagswin Wrote: [ -> ]There's zero chance Mason Rudolph doesn't go in the first 2 rounds. Personally, I think he goes in the first.
Agreed. Especially now with New England and Buffalo scheduling meetings with him. This is a very QB needy year and once you get through the top five - six prospects there's a sharp decline in talent and potential. But I still feel like this year's QB class reeks of the 2011 QB class. We'll see a handful of QB's over drafted in RD1 that end up amounting to nothing and then probably a pair of QB's selected in RD2 that turn out decent.
If the Pats take Rudolph, I'll be sick. It'll be like the Colts going from Peyton Manning to Andrew Luck or the San Antonio Spurs going from David Robinson to Tim Duncan.
(04-07-2018, 11:57 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (04-07-2018, 11:47 PM)JagswinJagswin Wrote: [ -> ]There's zero chance Mason Rudolph doesn't go in the first 2 rounds. Personally, I think he goes in the first.
I agree.
(04-07-2018, 11:54 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed. Especially now with New England and Buffalo scheduling meetings with him. This is a very QB needy year and once you get through the top five - six prospects there's a sharp decline in talent and potential. But I still feel like this year's QB class reeks of the 2011 QB class. We'll see a handful of QB's over drafted in RD1 that end up amounting to nothing and then probably a pair of QB's selected in RD2 that turn out decent.
If the Pats take Rudolph, I'll be sick. It'll be like the Colts going from Peyton Manning to Andrew Luck or the San Antonio Spurs going from David Robinson to Tim Duncan.
Hahahahaha, relax.
Rudolph is likely the 5th QB of the board. He ain't Tim Duncan and he ain't Andrew Luck.