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WalterFootball was enthusiastic in their praise of our draft thus far.

MMQB.si.com...not so much


Taven Bryan B-

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Taven Bryan
DT | Florida
Does Bryan fill a need? Of course not. But we should know by now not to scold the Jaguars for overloading on defensive talent, because it’s worked out almost perfectly thus far. Bryan is said to be a bit of a project. With Malik Jackson, Marcell Dareus, Abry Jones and occasional defensive tackle Calais Campbell (an All-Pro defensive end) on the roster, he can develop initially from the bench. Stylistically, he fits Jacksonville’s gap-attacking 4-3 defense.
Scouting Report: Long and athletic, Bryan is raw but flashes rare movement skills for his size. He explodes off the line and plays with a relentless motor—a fluid mover who can bend around a blocker and make plays in the backfield. He’s a bit lanky for the interior and might ultimately be molded into a five-technique.

DJ Chark  C

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DJ Chark
WR | LSU
It’s a little surprising the Jaguars didn’t go O-line or tight end and try to augment their thundering ground game. Perhaps they didn’t love the prospects at those positions. The hope is Chark will bring playmaking prowess to a receiving corps that overachieved late last year, with rookies Dede Westbrook and Keelan Cole leading the way.
Scouting Report: Chark is another LSU receiver with underwhelming production but big-time measurables, so teams will have to determine how much untapped potential he has. He’s had a promising postseason though, shining at the Senior Bowl and at the combine (4.34 40, 40-inch vertical leap). Chark’s a developmental prospect who at least has the explosive speed to concern opposing defenses as a situational deep threat.

Ronnie Harrison C-

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Ronnie Harrison
S | Alabama
Starters Barry Church and Tashaun Gipson are both signed beyond 2020 so this pick is nothing more than a great defense adding depth. Considering that the Jaguars play nickel (two linebackers, two safeties) and never big dime (one linebacker, three safeties), Harrison will have to embrace special teams if he wants to get significant snaps.
Scouting Report: A big, physical safety, Harrison can play in the box, but he also has the athleticism and speed to roam in centerfield. He's a bit stiff as a mover and has some limitations if asked to play man coverage, but he could thrive if put in a role similar to fellow Alabama alum Landon Collins.

https://www.si.com/draft/nfl/2018/draft-tracker?round=3

All valid points with legitimate concerns both from an athletic and depth standpoint. None of these picks fills a need like the TE or OL, but the value was there. Clearly, the FO went BAP. Will it workout? Just like in any draft, grades are meaningless. Only time will tell.

(04-28-2018, 11:04 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]WalterFootball was enthusiastic in their praise of our draft thus far.

MMQB.si.com...not so much


Taven Bryan B-

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Jaguars
Taven Bryan
DT | Florida
Does Bryan fill a need? Of course not. But we should know by now not to scold the Jaguars for overloading on defensive talent, because it’s worked out almost perfectly thus far. Bryan is said to be a bit of a project. With Malik Jackson, Marcell Dareus, Abry Jones and occasional defensive tackle Calais Campbell (an All-Pro defensive end) on the roster, he can develop initially from the bench. Stylistically, he fits Jacksonville’s gap-attacking 4-3 defense.
Scouting Report: Long and athletic, Bryan is raw but flashes rare movement skills for his size. He explodes off the line and plays with a relentless motor—a fluid mover who can bend around a blocker and make plays in the backfield. He’s a bit lanky for the interior and might ultimately be molded into a five-technique.

DJ Chark  C

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Jaguars
DJ Chark
WR | LSU
It’s a little surprising the Jaguars didn’t go O-line or tight end and try to augment their thundering ground game. Perhaps they didn’t love the prospects at those positions. The hope is Chark will bring playmaking prowess to a receiving corps that overachieved late last year, with rookies Dede Westbrook and Keelan Cole leading the way.
Scouting Report: Chark is another LSU receiver with underwhelming production but big-time measurables, so teams will have to determine how much untapped potential he has. He’s had a promising postseason though, shining at the Senior Bowl and at the combine (4.34 40, 40-inch vertical leap). Chark’s a developmental prospect who at least has the explosive speed to concern opposing defenses as a situational deep threat.

Ronnie Harrison C-

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Ronnie Harrison
S | Alabama
Starters Barry Church and Tashaun Gipson are both signed beyond 2020 so this pick is nothing more than a great defense adding depth. Considering that the Jaguars play nickel (two linebackers, two safeties) and never big dime (one linebacker, three safeties), Harrison will have to embrace special teams if he wants to get significant snaps.
Scouting Report: A big, physical safety, Harrison can play in the box, but he also has the athleticism and speed to roam in centerfield. He's a bit stiff as a mover and has some limitations if asked to play man coverage, but he could thrive if put in a role similar to fellow Alabama alum Landon Collins.

https://www.si.com/draft/nfl/2018/draft-tracker?round=3

Peter King is a jerk. Nobody with common sense pays any attention to his opinion. Probably angry because he didn't collect a media consultant check on the side.

i saw that its only a 1.6 mil penalty to release one of those two safeties, I don't remember which. So his point about them being signed beyond 2020 is misleading.

With Deon Cain falling, I feel like we might have been able to wait for him over Chark, and taken an O-linemen in the 2nd.

Still, hard to hate the Ronnie Harrison pick. Seems like Peter King is a big fan of Needs drafting.

(04-28-2018, 11:41 AM)brianmsbc Wrote: [ -> ]i saw that its only a 1.6 mil penalty to release one of those two safeties, I don't remember which. So his point about them being signed beyond 2020 is misleading.

You are thinking of Tashaun Gipson.  He would have $1.6 million in dead money if cut next year.  However, he also has a salary over $9 million.  As such, when you do the math, cutting him would save the Jaguars over $7.4 million off the salary cap next year.  He's definitely a candidate to be a salary cap casualty.

Barry Church has a salary over $6 million in 2019 with no dead money if we cut him.  He's also currently 30 years old.  Again, another candidate to be a salary cap casualty in 2019.

While safety isn't a need for the 2018 team, it definitely could help us with our salary cap position in 2019 and beyond assuming the guy we took is capable of being a legitimate starter.