(05-22-2018, 08:27 AM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ] (05-22-2018, 07:18 AM)Achilles Wrote: [ -> ]https://washingtonpress.com/2018/05/17/a...ent-viral/
Maybe there is no "foot in mouth" clause, but whether you like it or not, he's been removed from his office building with no recourse, and he's facing disbarment and working against the government now. He's toast, and he deserves it.
If you research him on the internet you'll find that he's a white supremacist, he has more videos out there where he either speaks hatefully towards people he thinks are immigrants or bumps into them and threatens to call the police. The guy is a bag of garbage and he's getting his just desserts.
The guy may be a tool bag, but your statement about no recourse and inevitable disbarment are false. Our rights are not assigned based on individual morals and ethics. Fortunately, law doesn’t typically rule on feelings and emotion either. While I don’t support his behavior, this guy can sue for numerous reason and would win. As far as the Congressman, this is a states issue where he has zero jurisdiction, unless this attorney files a constitutional rights grievance at the federal level. This may happen if he is disbarred based on public pressure, not cause.
Your link is nothing more than a synopsis of some exchanges and who is bothered. Discussion here was beyond that. If you are responding to my post based on “law”, perhaps you could provide a legal basis for why you think he has no remedy and he can’t continue to practice law based on his actions.
Could you imagine if, lets say, Wells Fargo could just terminate your mortgage contract and kick you out simply because you are a ****?
There are several provisions within a Services Agreement that can result in termination at the Landlord's sole discretion. Corporate Suites leases out their office space in a very progressive and contemporary manner, most of which is on a short term basis. Most of the office space they lease out at the Madison Avenue location are to attorney's, start-up businesses, and other small business seeking small office spaces and even conjoined spaces to enable them to have a lucrative address without a lot of wasted space or investment dollars that accompany a Madison Avenue street address and a 212 area code. In fact their website markets space for attorneys featuring 6 month leases which I'm most certain contains a clause to allow for one of the following:
Termination for Convenience,
Right to Quiet Enjoyment (meaning the landlord or a tenant cannot disrupt other tenants from quiet residency), or
Termination for Cause (which would include Tenant actions that violate ethical standards, etc.).
Quote from Hayim Grant, President of Corporate Suites (Landlord):
We have terminated his services agreement with us,” .... adding that he was “completely shocked” by the nearly minute-long clip. “His actions are just not consistent with our community and rules and regulations … It’s totally contrary to everything we believe in as a company and personally.”
Based on the above quote, it's very clear there is a termination provision within his agreement that allows the landlord to terminate for such cause, whether it be for his actions alone or due to the indirect circumstances that resulted in a disruption outside of the leased premises, directly as a result of his actions. Attorneys don't just accept eviction if their Agreements don't allow for such action by the landlord.
CORPORATE SUITES WEBSITE LINK BELOW + extracted marketing page illustrating they types of clients they engage.
https://www.corporatesuites.com/case-studies
The Solo Professional
A sole practitioner attorney would like to quickly set up an office to best service her clients and grow her business in Manhattan while minimizing costs and maximizing his billing hours.
The Corporate Suites Solution
The attorney joins Corporate Suites. His phone is answered in his name during business hours and he receives his messages promptly and his packages are accepted. His IT and administrative tasks are seamlessly handled by in-house staff. He also has access to fully equipped conference rooms and his office is situated in a vibrant social atmosphere with the potential to service his neighbors’ legal needs. The attorney signs a six month contract which provides him with the flexibility to grow or redesign his office solution. He focuses most of his time on developing his business and growing his client base while Corporate Suites focuses on running his office. Eventually, he builds professional and social relationships with his neighbors at Corporate Suites.
Since when did morality and ethicality mean the same thing?
(05-22-2018, 02:06 PM)Achilles Wrote: [ -> ] (05-22-2018, 02:04 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]Since when did morality and ethicality mean the same thing?
mo·ral·i·ty
[məˈralədē]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]NOUN[/font]
- principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.
synonyms: ethics · rights and wrongs · correctness · ethicality · virtue · goodness · good behavio
Legally they are very different
(05-22-2018, 02:09 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ] (05-22-2018, 02:06 PM)Achilles Wrote: [ -> ]mo·ral·i·ty
[məˈralədē]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]NOUN[/font]
- principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.
synonyms: ethics · rights and wrongs · correctness · ethicality · virtue · goodness · good behavio
Legally they are very different
Oh ok. Well if you say so.
(05-22-2018, 11:49 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (05-22-2018, 08:27 AM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]The guy may be a tool bag, but your statement about no recourse and inevitable disbarment are false. Our rights are not assigned based on individual morals and ethics. Fortunately, law doesn’t typically rule on feelings and emotion either. While I don’t support his behavior, this guy can sue for numerous reason and would win. As far as the Congressman, this is a states issue where he has zero jurisdiction, unless this attorney files a constitutional rights grievance at the federal level. This may happen if he is disbarred based on public pressure, not cause.
Your link is nothing more than a synopsis of some exchanges and who is bothered. Discussion here was beyond that. If you are responding to my post based on “law”, perhaps you could provide a legal basis for why you think he has no remedy and he can’t continue to practice law based on his actions.
Could you imagine if, lets say, Wells Fargo could just terminate your mortgage contract and kick you out simply because you are a ****?
There are several provisions within a Services Agreement that can result in termination at the Landlord's sole discretion. Corporate Suites leases out their office space in a very progressive and contemporary manner, most of which is on a short term basis. Most of the office space they lease out at the Madison Avenue location are to attorney's, start-up businesses, and other small business seeking small office spaces and even conjoined spaces to enable them to have a lucrative address without a lot of wasted space or investment dollars that accompany a Madison Avenue street address and a 212 area code. In fact their website markets space for attorneys featuring 6 month leases which I'm most certain contains a clause to allow for one of the following: Termination for Convenience, Right to Quiet Enjoyment (meaning the landlord or a tenant cannot disrupt other tenants from quiet residency), or Termination for Cause (which would include Tenant actions that violate ethical standards, etc.).
Quote from Hayim Grant, President of Corporate Suites (Landlord):
We have terminated his services agreement with us,” .... adding that he was “completely shocked” by the nearly minute-long clip. “His actions are just not consistent with our community and rules and regulations … It’s totally contrary to everything we believe in as a company and personally.”
Based on the above quote, it's very clear there is a termination provision within his agreement that allows the landlord to terminate for such cause, whether it be for his actions alone or due to the indirect circumstances that resulted in a disruption outside of the leased premises, directly as a result of his actions. Attorneys don't just accept eviction if their Agreements don't allow for such action by the landlord.
CORPORATE SUITES WEBSITE LINK BELOW + extracted marketing page illustrating they types of clients they engage.
https://www.corporatesuites.com/case-studies
The Solo Professional
A sole practitioner attorney would like to quickly set up an office to best service her clients and grow her business in Manhattan while minimizing costs and maximizing his billing hours.
The Corporate Suites Solution
The attorney joins Corporate Suites. His phone is answered in his name during business hours and he receives his messages promptly and his packages are accepted. His IT and administrative tasks are seamlessly handled by in-house staff. He also has access to fully equipped conference rooms and his office is situated in a vibrant social atmosphere with the potential to service his neighbors’ legal needs. The attorney signs a six month contract which provides him with the flexibility to grow or redesign his office solution. He focuses most of his time on developing his business and growing his client base while Corporate Suites focuses on running his office. Eventually, he builds professional and social relationships with his neighbors at Corporate Suites.
Well aware of who Corporate Suites, LLC is. They operate in other states and cities as well. Including Jacksonville. Appreciate you actually researching the company and catching up, however, my statements stand.
(05-22-2018, 02:09 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ] (05-22-2018, 02:06 PM)Achilles Wrote: [ -> ]mo·ral·i·ty
[məˈralədē]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]NOUN[/font]
- principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.
synonyms: ethics · rights and wrongs · correctness · ethicality · virtue · goodness · good behavio
Legally they are very different
Correct indeed. Morals are single person events not necessarily supported by all, nor enforceable by law. The actions related may be. Ethics may be adopted by a group, but still not supported by all. Law is based on a normative system of objective content for the masses. The rule of law must be intersubjectivelly intelligible, meaning the rule must be substantially understood by all. This guy broke no law or enforceable, intelligible norm. Now, New York does have a pretty broad human rights statute that he could be in violation of. But it's a stretch. The irony here is that the schmuck is the one suffering damages of harassment, discrimination, and a bevy of others.
(05-22-2018, 03:30 PM)Achilles Wrote: [ -> ] (05-22-2018, 03:20 PM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]Well aware of who Corporate Suites, LLC is. They operate in other states and cities as well. Including Jacksonville. Appreciate you actually researching the company and catching up, however, my statements stand.
So no bet then?
Sorry, did we have a bet? Are you the other guy's handler? I'll offer this. Fairly certain I've already explained why he may not file a civil suit. For your clarity...New York caps civil at $25,000. Unless he can somehow gain jurisdiction outside of New York for conflict of interest, he won't file. The loss versus gain is extremely out of balance unless this escalates further. Doesn't mean he has no grounds. As far as disbarment, it won't happen. Guaranteed! I don't bet, so if it turns out I'm wrong, you two can jump up and down and high five.
(05-22-2018, 03:20 PM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ] (05-22-2018, 11:49 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]There are several provisions within a Services Agreement that can result in termination at the Landlord's sole discretion. Corporate Suites leases out their office space in a very progressive and contemporary manner, most of which is on a short term basis. Most of the office space they lease out at the Madison Avenue location are to attorney's, start-up businesses, and other small business seeking small office spaces and even conjoined spaces to enable them to have a lucrative address without a lot of wasted space or investment dollars that accompany a Madison Avenue street address and a 212 area code. In fact their website markets space for attorneys featuring 6 month leases which I'm most certain contains a clause to allow for one of the following: Termination for Convenience, Right to Quiet Enjoyment (meaning the landlord or a tenant cannot disrupt other tenants from quiet residency), or Termination for Cause (which would include Tenant actions that violate ethical standards, etc.).
Quote from Hayim Grant, President of Corporate Suites (Landlord):
We have terminated his services agreement with us,” .... adding that he was “completely shocked” by the nearly minute-long clip. “His actions are just not consistent with our community and rules and regulations … It’s totally contrary to everything we believe in as a company and personally.”
Based on the above quote, it's very clear there is a termination provision within his agreement that allows the landlord to terminate for such cause, whether it be for his actions alone or due to the indirect circumstances that resulted in a disruption outside of the leased premises, directly as a result of his actions. Attorneys don't just accept eviction if their Agreements don't allow for such action by the landlord.
CORPORATE SUITES WEBSITE LINK BELOW + extracted marketing page illustrating they types of clients they engage.
https://www.corporatesuites.com/case-studies
The Solo Professional
A sole practitioner attorney would like to quickly set up an office to best service her clients and grow her business in Manhattan while minimizing costs and maximizing his billing hours.
The Corporate Suites Solution
The attorney joins Corporate Suites. His phone is answered in his name during business hours and he receives his messages promptly and his packages are accepted. His IT and administrative tasks are seamlessly handled by in-house staff. He also has access to fully equipped conference rooms and his office is situated in a vibrant social atmosphere with the potential to service his neighbors’ legal needs. The attorney signs a six month contract which provides him with the flexibility to grow or redesign his office solution. He focuses most of his time on developing his business and growing his client base while Corporate Suites focuses on running his office. Eventually, he builds professional and social relationships with his neighbors at Corporate Suites.
Well aware of who Corporate Suites, LLC is. They operate in other states and cities as well. Including Jacksonville. Appreciate you actually researching the company and catching up, however, my statements stand.
I'm sure their business model is the same here in Jacksonville, given the demand of our local attorneys to set up shop on the prestigious Water Street address.
This dude is a track star.
https://youtu.be/fi0K3mRPwCY
(05-21-2018, 08:54 AM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]If we are to start locking up folks with what is perceived as racism/racist remarks the OP KFC here has got some jail time coming his way. KFC is the most obvious racist that posts to this board.
You have the option to press the ignore button Gagwired.
(05-18-2018, 09:55 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]As many articles that you post about racism, I wonder why none of them show racist black men or women?
I had a detailed discussion with Dakota about this last year that you barely participated in, go back and read what I posted.
(05-24-2018, 10:26 AM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: [ -> ]You have the option to press the ignore button Gagwired.
Breast and a leg please. Side of mashed potatoes and a biscuit.
(05-24-2018, 10:33 AM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: [ -> ] (05-18-2018, 09:55 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]As many articles that you post about racism, I wonder why none of them show racist black men or women?
I had a detailed discussion with Dakota about this last year that you barely participated in, go back and read what I posted.
I don't even know which thread you're talking about. How would I know since this is almost all you talk about?
You take instances like these, that happen to everyone, and claim that it's a problem exclusive to blacks.
(05-24-2018, 11:56 AM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2018, 10:26 AM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: [ -> ]You have the option to press the ignore button Gagwired.
Breast and a leg please. Side of mashed potatoes and a biscuit.
I see we like mixed meat, but I like BREAST and THIGHS.
(05-24-2018, 02:19 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2018, 10:33 AM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: [ -> ]I had a detailed discussion with Dakota about this last year that you barely participated in, go back and read what I posted.
I don't even know which thread you're talking about. How would I know since this is almost all you talk about?
You take instances like these, that happen to everyone, and claim that it's a problem exclusive to blacks.
You have all the time in the world to concentrate on the type of posts I make, you can use that same energy to go back through my history to look up the discussions I had regarding your previous question to me.
I never portray racism as a exclusive problem to African American as it can happen to anyone. I am not bi racial or any other race but black, so I can only speak from that perspective.
(05-24-2018, 10:54 PM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2018, 11:56 AM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]Breast and a leg please. Side of mashed potatoes and a biscuit.
I see we like mixed meat, but I like BREAST and THIGHS.
Always about color with you...
(05-24-2018, 10:26 AM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: [ -> ]This dude is a track star.
HA !! Nice find.
Hopefully, he'll become a better person and then get a 2nd chance in the long run.