Only Difference is 9 years ago Obama sent them 1.7 billion dollars and got nothing in return
(07-31-2018, 10:40 AM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]Only Difference is 9 years ago Obama sent them 1.7 billion dollars and got nothing in return
That was three years ago.
(07-31-2018, 10:40 AM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]Only Difference is 9 years ago Obama sent them 1.7 billion dollars and got nothing in return
Unlike Trump who just gave $83 Billion to the top 1%
That said, I assume you didn't feel the impact of either distributions.
(07-31-2018, 10:41 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-31-2018, 10:40 AM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]Only Difference is 9 years ago Obama sent them 1.7 billion dollars and got nothing in return
That was three years ago.
My Bad......
(07-31-2018, 11:18 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (07-31-2018, 10:40 AM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]Only Difference is 9 years ago Obama sent them 1.7 billion dollars and got nothing in return
Unlike Trump who just gave $83 Billion to the top 1%
That said, I assume you didn't feel the impact of either distributions.
Man oh man, you're liberal credentials are showing....
Sound like Nancy Pelosi that the working man get stiffed with "crumbs"
But back on topic
I'd rather engage them (Iran) in a meaningful conversation them have another war break out. Although I know we could pound them back to the stone age in nothing flat
It’s a good thing to reach out to these “hostile” countries. Really, all countries. Diplomacy takes effort. Can’t just slap a country onto “the list” and expect positive change.
But did you guys feel the same way 9 years ago, B2hibry and The Drifter?
(07-31-2018, 12:27 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]But did you guys feel the same way 9 years ago, B2hibry and The Drifter?
In the interest of full disclosure, I was ready to Bomb Iran back to the stone age back in 1979 when they took our people hostage.....
(07-31-2018, 12:27 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]But did you guys feel the same way 9 years ago, B2hibry and The Drifter?
Yes. My beliefs and opinions aren’t hinged with the comming and going of each President. I’ve had issues with each President going back to Carter. But if I’m being honest, Obama was a great talker and down to earth, but absolutely shameful in most other areas. Trump is a horrible public figure but his policies and unorthodox approach are actually getting results. Can’t image what it would be like with just a little bit of cooperation.
Anyways, Every country should have a chance at diplomacy until all reasonable options are exhausted. What is not necessarily unique about Iran is that their government hates and has hated the US for decades. They also brag about supporting terroristic activity in the region. They have made it clear that nothing short of a new Persian Empire is their goal. Diplomacy is a two way street and they only want it one way; their way. Let me be clear that their elected government is usually not as abrasive as their religious leaders. The Iranian people are also pretty awesome. It is the religious leadership tends to get Iran knee deep in trouble. Currently, there is not much wiggle room in U.S./Iran diplomacy. If they make a false move in the Gulf in regards to Saudi Arabia or the Gulf of Hormuz straight, there will be a brief, yet powerful [BLEEP] whoopin’ that would put the 1980’s to shame.
In my opinion, JCPOA was foolish at best and all parties knew there was no real substance except allowing Iran to turn on the cash flow again. I like what Trump is doing with telling Iran to come talk with no preconditions. He is placing the ball in Irans court and within global view. He is basically saying come tells us what your issues are and what will it take to get both nations in good standing with one another. No strings attached. It’s always easy to scream foul and complain but takes effort to identify and address the real issues.
Certainly better than pallets of cash, no matter what year, month, week, or day.