Quote:Boy the board has been infected with no brain cell activity lately.
There's that, and the fact that there's an entire generation of Jag fans who never actually saw Fred Taylor play other than in highlight videos. Anyone who was able to see both men play recognize the absolute chasm in talent / abilities that exists between the two.
Quote:There's that, and the fact that there's an entire generation of Jag fans who never actually saw Fred Taylor play other than in highlight videos
. Anyone who was able to see both men play recognize the absolute chasm in talent / abilities that exists between the two.
That part really makes me feel old.
Quote:That part really makes me feel old.
A child born in year 1 of the franchise playing back in 1995 has been able to legally buy a beer for 1-2 years. Yeah, that's not making me feel any younger either!
Quote:Not even close.
Taylor missed 55 career games and still wound of 15th all time when he retired.
Taylor's best game - 234 yards vs Pit.
MJD's best game - 177 vs Titans.
Taylor rushed for 11,695 yards with a 4.6 yard average. And scored 66 TDs.
MJD rushed for 8,167 yards with a 4.4 yard average. And score 68 TDs.
Taylor also ran for 100 yards in 8 straight games. Only Barry Sanders can top that with 9 straight 100 yard games.
Taylor was faster in the 40. He was bigger. He also holds the record for most yards in a playoff game in a half. And I believe he has the longest run.
It's not even a debate. Fred Taylor is the best RB this team will ever have. MJD is in a far distant 2nd place.
Don't get this twisted as I think Fred is clearly better. But In fairness to MJD, he oftentimes WAS the offense, if not the whole team for a good portion of his career. Even though Fred was injury prone he still played on teams with Jimmy Smith for 7 years and had other playmakers to take pressure off of him, MJD definitely played on far worse teams.
Further, MJD's best game... yea he "only" had 177 yards...... but he did that on EIGHT CARRIES!!!!!!! him and CJ2K were one upping each other with long runs that game, unfortunately the Jaguars inept coaching staff decided to be pass happy rather than just feed MJD who was hot. Had they given him the ball 20 times ... yea he would've topped Freds 234 mark against the Steelers (although if Taylor wasn't severely hungover that day, he could've debatably set the single game rushing record that
day)
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009110109...=fullstory
Love Mojo! But Fred is the greatest Jag and defintely greater than MJD. Not close....
Fred Taylor was the king. Most of MJD's success came off from Fred's success.
Fred Taylor is top 15 all-time.
MJD is maybe top 25? top 30?
Quote:Don't get this twisted as I think Fred is clearly better. But In fairness to MJD, he oftentimes WAS the offe
nse, if not the whole team for a good portion of his career. Even though Fred was injury prone he still played on teams with Jimmy Smith for 7 years and had other playmakers to take pressure off of him, MJD definitely played on far worse teams.
Further, MJD's best game... yea he "only" had 177 yards...... but he did that on EIGHT CARRIES!!!!!!! him and CJ2K were one upping each other with long runs that game, unfortunately the Jaguars inept coaching staff decided to be pass happy rather than just feed MJD who was hot. Had they given him the ball 20 times ... yea he would've topped Freds 234 mark against the Steelers (although if Taylor wasn't severely hungover that day, he could've debatably set the single game rushing record that
day)
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009110109...=fullstory
Come on man, after 2003 till 2007 the same thing could be said about Fred. He was a workhorse for us. Yeah MJD had heavy years too, but Freds best years were when he was the offense. Garrard wasn't very good till 2007, and Leftwich never was good. Freddy T made this team go during those years.
Either way, I love them both, but Fred was better and for a much longer period of time. I can still see him juking players out of their shoes and then trucking the next player. You just don't get that combo of speed strength and agility.
Freddy T was the best...Let me add this to the discussion...How much credit does Greg Jones deserve for MJD's success?
What's unreal is when you consider how many yards Fred actually ran. When you look at MJD's stats, his yardage totally basically matches what he actually ran because he's such a north-south runner. Jones drew never ran laterally.... he might bounce outside on occasion, but that's not what I mean.
Fred, on the other hand, might run 20 yards to gain 10. You pretty much have to take his total and at least double it because half of his running was laterally or even backwards as he maneuvered around defenders. Fred ran like a finesse guy avoiding contact, but then he'd finish his runs like a power back.
Fred is an all time great. Why he was taken out in goal line sets is beyond me. His injuries killed him though. If not for those he would have 13000 or so yards, one of the best. MJD was a good back though.
Not to mention that Fred has 10x more character and respect than MJD. The Jaguars were extremely fortunate to have someone like Fred Taylor help define the early history of this franchise. He will go down as a legend.