10-17-2016, 01:34 PM
Quote:Your posting history shows you want to be Mr. Negative about everything.
Go to the game day thread, everyone was giving up on Bortles yesterday lol and you want to make up something that i was.
10-17-2016, 01:34 PM
10-17-2016, 01:35 PM
Quote:My initial takeaway was what the heck happen to Yeldon? Why was he so little used?Yeldon out of the backfield is an option that I really like and we should use more and we did it efficiently against Indianapolis. I don't know why we haven't used him more like that considering the run blocking was outrageous.
But the same thing applies to Blake runs that we used so well against the Colts and we seemed to forget to use this week.
Sometimes we are a real mistery, something that works one week we come out the week after and we don't even try it.
10-17-2016, 01:39 PM
I didn't notice Omameh yesterday, which is nice.
10-17-2016, 01:41 PM
Quote:Yeldon out of the backfield is an option that I really like and we should use more and we did it efficiently against Indianapolis. I don't know why we haven't used him more like that considering the run blocking was outrageous.Yeah it was just so surprising since I thought he had a great game against the Colts. Yeldon just wasnt part of the gameplan at all. Baffling.
But the same thing applies to Blake runs that we used so well against the Colts and we seemed to forget to use this week.
Sometimes we are a real mistery, something that works one week we come out the week after and we don't even try it.
10-17-2016, 01:46 PM
Quote:I didn't notice Omameh yesterday, which is nice.
I saw him on the field. He was flagged once - can't remember if it was a false start or holding.
10-17-2016, 02:00 PM
Quote:My initial takeaway was what the heck happen to Yeldon? Why was he so little used?Yeah...I noticed like after the first carry, I really didn't see much of him after that.
10-17-2016, 02:05 PM
Quote:I just saw a replay of the final Ramsey pass breakup. He showed good burst and closing speed in undercutting that route. I didn't appreciate it from the TV angle.
Also saw the Myles Jack mic'd up clips, and he was more active than I gave him credit for.
Kudos to both.
That Ramsey play had my excited to tune in and watch him for the rest of the year. He has crazy burst and good football IQ. In that play he took away every possible way a ref could have throw a hankie. Takes tons of talent to be able to shadow the receiver like that. Very, very impressive closing speed and ability to cut in front of the receiver like that.
10-17-2016, 02:09 PM
Quote:That Ramsey play had my excited to tune in and watch him for the rest of the year. He has crazy burst and good football IQ. In that play he took away every possible way a ref could have throw a hankie. Takes tons of talent to be able to shadow the receiver like that. Very, very impressive closing speed and ability to cut in front of the receiver like that.Watching it live, it was impressive because it was clutch for days.
But seeing the replay from the different angle, you saw his acceleration, burst, closing speed, and, one thing I forgot to mention earlier-anticipation.
Either his instincts are very good, or he studied film and knew the pattern Jeffery would run with that formation/down and distance, but he seemed to anticipate exactly where the pass was going and jumped the route.
10-17-2016, 02:14 PM
Quote:Watching it live, it was impressive because it was clutch for days.
But seeing the replay from the different angle, you saw his acceleration, burst, closing speed, and, one thing I forgot to mention earlier-anticipation.
Either his instincts are very good, or he studied film and knew the pattern Jeffery would run with that formation/down and distance, but he seemed to anticipate exactly where the pass was going and jumped the route.
Good instincts and he knows how to mirror. I bet they called that play up earlier and he improved on it. The broadcast team is down on us so we don't see any of the sideline shots that include the defense huddled over the surface tablets and what have you.
When the broadcasters like a team, they are sure to show them looking at stuff on the sideline. I think this part of why I am so darned bias against my team. I am so tired of the rah rah and clapping sideline shots of Gus.
10-17-2016, 02:19 PM
Quote:Watching it live, it was impressive because it was clutch for days.Jalen said this about the last play:
But seeing the replay from the different angle, you saw his acceleration, burst, closing speed, and, one thing I forgot to mention earlier-anticipation.
Either his instincts are very good, or he studied film and knew the pattern Jeffery would run with that formation/down and distance, but he seemed to anticipate exactly where the pass was going and jumped the route.
“They got in a stack look and I was really anticipating either a stop or a comeback like he’d been doing all game,” Ramsey said. “Once he planted, I planted too, broke on the ball and cut him off inside.”
10-17-2016, 02:24 PM
Quote:Jalen said this about the last play:
“They got in a stack look and I was really anticipating either a stop or a comeback like he’d been doing all game,” Ramsey said. “Once he planted, I planted too, broke on the ball and cut him off inside.”
Using his football instincts and learning on the fly. I like it. :thumbsup:
10-17-2016, 02:24 PM
Quote:Jalen said this about the last play:
“They got in a stack look and I was really anticipating either a stop or a comeback like he’d been doing all game,” Ramsey said. “Once he planted, I planted too, broke on the ball and cut him off inside.”
We haven't had this caliber of play since... Rasheen?
10-17-2016, 03:21 PM
Quote:We haven't had this caliber of play since... Rasheen?Earlier today, I was wondering who is the better of the two.
Speed wise, I'd say about even. Ramsey supposedly has world class speed. Mathis was always among the fastest Jaguars when here.
Ball skills, I'd give the edge to Rashean. He always had a knack for interceptions. That was always the knock on Ramsey.
Physicality-edge to Ramsey. From his jam of Cobb in the Packers game, to his run support, Ramsey is easily the most physical CB in team history.
10-17-2016, 03:23 PM
Quote:Football is a strange and great game. More than any game in recent memory, I spent the overwhelming majority of the game [BAD WORD REMOVED] at the Jaguars, but when the dust settled and the smoke cleared, the Jaguars emerged victorious. I still have mixed feelings, but I know I feel much better than I would have felt had the Jaguars lost. My thoughts...
1. Something must be done about the officiating. From the phantom false start to the blatant no call on the PI on Julius Thomas, the abiding sense I got was that the WWE is providing the officials. I would have gone apoplectic had they upheld that PI against Amukumara. As bad as those plays were, they weren't even the most egregious blown calls of the day. The call of defensive pass interference on Dominique Rogers Cromartie against the Ravens, and the Seahawks no PI call against Julio Jones shocks the conscience of most observers. Though I have done no surveys or seen the results of any surveys to tell me this, I submit the NFL tv ratings have dropped in part because fans are weary of the rotten, seemingly corrupt officiating. The only saving grace, if there is any to be had, is that at least the Jaguars and the Giants were able to overcome those outrageous calls. I know officials have a tough job given the countless tweaks and nuances to the rules and the speed of the game, but they can do better.
2. Watching the first offensive drive of the game for the Jaguars, given how banged up the Bears were defensively, I thought there was no way the Bears can keep up with us. But then after Robinson bobbled what would have been a TD into the hands of Tracy Porter, the Jaguars had a painful display of offensive ineptitude reminiscent of some of the Henne low points. I attribute part of it to coaching. I am convinced Olsen's approach to offense is anathema to having any consistent ground game, and ultimately, any offensive consistency. I think part of it is attributable to Bortles. I don't know for sure, but it seems like he is pressing-almost aiming the ball-and having the opposite of the desired effect. But in the 4th quarter, he looked like the Bortles that we saw the first two years. I can only hope this 4th quarter come from behind win as a catalyst to an offensive renewal for him and the team overall.
3. We have talented receivers, but yesterday's game was an uneven performance by the group. Allen Robinson started that first drive in dominant fashion, but then disappeared for the rest of the game. Hurns was absent from the offense most of the first half, took a couple of wicked hits in the first half, then his 25 yard catch sparked the rally. Not impugning the toughness of anyone else on the team when I say this, but his performance after that hit shows why many feel Hurns is the toughest player on the team. Marquise Lee has gotten a ton of criticism from coaches and fans for his inability to stay healthy. This year, however, we've gotten a glimpse of what his capabilities are when he is healthy and getting in sync with Bortles. We haven't seen the long TD catches we hoped for, but he used his speed to convert a key first down. I think Lee showing the ability to convert the routine will bode well for the offense in the future. But I would be remiss if I didn't give a nod to Arrelious Benn. Benn has had a hard luck NFL existence. Yes, he was drafted in the second round, but has bounced from team to team because he could not stay healthy. He even wound up on IR for us last year after a great camp performance. But he had the game winning score as he beat the DB, had the presence of mind to realize he wasn't touched as he slipped, the athleticism to get up and score. Hopefully that is a sign of things to come for him.
4. I have to give kudos to the defense for a gritty performance. For the most part, the team shut down the run very well, and at times even dominant against a strong interior three offensive line. They only started to wear down in the second half after no help from the offense. I didn't see the kind of pass pressure I'd hoped, but at the end of the day, they kept the Bears within range and out of the end zone, and made the plays when needed. I expect more good performances in the future.
5. Continuing on defense, I thought the LBs-especially Poz and Telvin-played good games. Poz was all over the place and was a key in that run defense. Telvin Smith seemingly had another zone pass defense lapse, but overall played well.
6. For the first time in a long time, we can consistently say special teams is a strength. While I still cringe a little when Myers kicks, that reaction is less and less frequent, as he has displayed the consistency he desperately lacked last year. Nortman has been outstanding for us thus far. In fact, not that I've spent a lot of time thinking about it, but I think he has given us the best punting in this team's history when you factor in distance and accuracy.
7. Rookie Watch:
A. Jalen Ramsey-A tale of two halves for him. The first half, he was off to his worst day as a pro, as Jeffrey had a lot of success against him. He had 6 catches for 90 yards in the first half, and Ramsey uncharacteristically missed tackles that led to big gains. (On a side note, Ramsey's "poor" performance was typically the ceiling/norm for way too many Jaguars' CBs over the years). But in the second half, Ramsey flipped the script and shut Jeffrey down. I'm not sure what adjustments were made by him or Wash, but we didn't hear much from Jeffrey in the second half. Fittingly, Ramsey made the play that sealed the win. Ramsey showed a short memory, resilience, grit, and clutch ability.
B. Myles Jack-Got the start at OTTO. I saw him in on one tackle, but saw nothing else from him. I think they were taking him out in nickel packages. While Telvin Smith has great athleticism and Poz seems to do really well dropping in zones, somehow I think if they are taking out Jack in nickel packages, they're still doing it wrong.
C. Yannick Ngakoue-obtained his 4th sack of the season yesterday on a key 4th quarter possession.
D. Sheldon Day-Saw him but he didn't stand out to me.
E. Brandon Allen-DNP
8. Julius Thomas made about 2-3 key catches that extended drives for the team. I think if Bortles is to have a resurgence, Thomas will play a key role.
9. Nice to see Colvin return, and he made a key tackle.
10. Bottom line: while it was far from a pretty game, it was good to get another W. We are no longer in last place in the division, and there is a sense there is a positive momentum. Now make no mistake, this team will have to play at a much higher level to beat Oakland next week. But if this team improves its performance and wins next week, it will have been a month since the Jaguars lost. When was the last non off-season month that statement could have been uttered about this team? Let's go beat the Raiders to see how good it will feel to say that.
Great take as always regarding the game.
Regarding the part in bold, some credit has to go to Hoyer. I noticed yesterday that the ball was coming out pretty quick for the most part.
10-17-2016, 03:31 PM
Quote:Great take as always regarding the game.I give credit to Hoyer. He was very decisive with the ball.
Regarding the part in bold, some credit has to go to Hoyer. I noticed yesterday that the ball was coming out pretty quick for the most part.
I also give credit to the Bears OL. That was a good interior 3 they have, and their tackles aren't bad, either.
10-17-2016, 03:33 PM
Quote:I just saw a replay of the final Ramsey pass breakup. He showed good burst and closing speed in undercutting that route. I didn't appreciate it from the TV angle.
Also saw the Myles Jack mic'd up clips, and he was more active than I gave him credit for.
Kudos to both.
Where did you see these?
10-17-2016, 03:36 PM
Quote:I give credit to Hoyer. He was very decisive with the ball.
I also give credit to the Bears OL. That was a good interior 3 they have, and their tackles aren't bad, either.
Absolutely. I don't think the Bears are really as bad as their record.
Quote:Where did you see these?
Jaguars.com Home Page
10-17-2016, 03:37 PM
10-17-2016, 03:40 PM
Quote:Absolutely. I don't think the Bears are really as bad as their record.
Going into the game, I felt very confident against them because they were so banged up. But I give them credit, they played hard and I think they are well coached (though based on their boards, Bears fans don't seem to think so).
To me, the main two things the Bears are missing are good health and a stud QB.
10-17-2016, 03:59 PM