(01-02-2019, 01:44 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2019, 01:27 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]At times he would be inconsistent with his passes. The guy had almost everything you want from a franchise QB. Size ,arm, mobility. There is a Reason he wasnt considered the top pick, because of the offense he ran and would have some wild passes at times
Where did I bring up completion %
I'm just saying Mahomes had very impressive accuracy , independent of the gaudy stats he put up. Lock on the other hand has pretty poor accuracy.
I may not go as far as "poor" describing Lock, but I don't see it on par with what I saw from Mahomes coming out.
Jay Cutler coming out is a good comparison for Lock imo
(01-02-2019, 02:00 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2019, 01:56 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Jay Cutler coming out is a good comparison for Lock imo
Cutler did have a strong arm much like Lock. Just looking at Lock's YPA he had an 8.0 this season and a 9.5 last season.
I hope he's better than Cutler tho. I always use Cutler to grade qbs as I consider Cutler to be precisely average in every possible way. That is, if a qb is better than Cutler, he's good (slightly better makes him "decent")... if he's worse than Cutler he's bad (slightly worse makes him "mediocre").
Cutler had an absolutely ridiculous arm. He was just soft in the pocket and couldn't make reads. He had a way above average arm though.
I've seen the Cutler comp for Lock several times. Makes sense.
(01-02-2019, 02:00 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2019, 01:56 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Jay Cutler coming out is a good comparison for Lock imo
Cutler did have a strong arm much like Lock. Just looking at Lock's YPA he had an 8.0 this season and a 9.5 last season.
I hope he's better than Cutler tho. I always use Cutler to grade qbs as I consider Cutler to be precisely average in every possible way. That is, if a qb is better than Cutler, he's good (slightly better makes him "decent")... if he's worse than Cutler he's bad (slightly worse makes him "mediocre").
I think Cutler had all sorts of talent. He could have been much better.
I think a lot of his issues were personality, character, leadership type stuff.
(01-02-2019, 03:53 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2019, 02:00 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]Cutler did have a strong arm much like Lock. Just looking at Lock's YPA he had an 8.0 this season and a 9.5 last season.
I hope he's better than Cutler tho. I always use Cutler to grade qbs as I consider Cutler to be precisely average in every possible way. That is, if a qb is better than Cutler, he's good (slightly better makes him "decent")... if he's worse than Cutler he's bad (slightly worse makes him "mediocre").
I think Cutler had all sorts of talent. He could have been much better.
I think a lot of his issues were personality, character, leadership type stuff.
Yes. Every time I heard him talk, I wanted to punch him in the face. He gave off his image of thinking he was better than everyone else. It was no secret, he was not very well liked by his teammates. It's ironic he found a woman exactly like him.
(01-02-2019, 08:15 AM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Every big armed QB doesn't have to be Mahomes now. The only similarities they have are they have a big arm and can get away with throwing off the back foot regularly.
Lock has nowhere near the same level of accuracy, decision making , playmaking , style of play etc etc.
Lock is more like a Flacco type to me
Comparing Lock to Flacco is a terrible comparison... flacco was known for good foot work, good accuracy with limited athleticism and okay arm strength... Lock has a cannon, i cannot say enough how strong this guys arm is, he needs to work on his footwork and being consistent... Mahomes is the first comparison i see, never compared anyone from last years draft to him. I dont think anyone did.
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AnDREW Luck....
Drew Lock....
Sounds familiar. One can hope if we choose him right?
(01-04-2019, 02:00 PM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-04-2019, 12:02 PM)Brett Wrote: [ -> ]AnDREW Luck....
Drew Lock....
Sounds familiar. One can hope if we choose him right?
Copy cat
Copy cat? I haven't read through every post in this thread so if you are implying someone else already said this, I apologize. I never saw it.
(12-31-2018, 06:36 PM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-31-2018, 05:35 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed, couldnt ask for a better 2 rounds
Lock and Haskins are playing in their bowl game and Grier didn't. You still want him on the Jaguars after he left his teammates hanging. Pass
Nick Bosa sat out the whole season. Are you telling me you wouldn't want him in a Jags uniform?
(01-04-2019, 04:05 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ] (12-31-2018, 06:36 PM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]Lock and Haskins are playing in their bowl game and Grier didn't. You still want him on the Jaguars after he left his teammates hanging. Pass
Nick Bosa sat out the whole season. Are you telling me you wouldn't want him in a Jags uniform?
I could understand high ranking defensive linemen, running back, any defensive position, prospects sitting out because they have a higher chance of getting injured. But QBs %'s of getting hurt are low.
Haskins, Lock, Jones played in a meaningless bowl game and they came away with no injuries. So, the stat for top prospect draft QBs not getting injured in meaningless bowl games is 100% for 2018. So, Grier choosing not to play so he can prepare for the draft is a red flag.
(01-06-2019, 09:40 AM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]Haskins, Lock, Jones played in a meaningless bowl game and they came away with no injuries. So, the stat for top prospect draft QBs not getting injured in meaningless bowl games is 100% for 2018. So, Grier choosing not to play so he can prepare for the draft is a red flag.
Lol someone skipped Statistics class
(01-06-2019, 10:20 PM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ] (01-06-2019, 09:40 AM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]Haskins, Lock, Jones played in a meaningless bowl game and they came away with no injuries. So, the stat for top prospect draft QBs not getting injured in meaningless bowl games is 100% for 2018. So, Grier choosing not to play so he can prepare for the draft is a red flag.
Lol someone skipped Statistics class
3 topped prospects not injured that played in meaningless bowl game / 3 total top prospects playing in meaningless bowl game = 100% non injured rate for 2018 bowl season.
(01-06-2019, 10:29 PM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-06-2019, 10:20 PM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]Lol someone skipped Statistics class
3 topped prospects not injured that played in meaningless bowl game / 3 total top prospects playing in meaningless bowl game = 100% non injured rate for 2018 bowl season.
You get the gold star today!
(01-06-2019, 09:40 AM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]Haskins, Lock, Jones played in a meaningless bowl game and they came away with no injuries. So, the stat for top prospect draft QBs not getting injured in meaningless bowl games is 100% for 2018. So, Grier choosing not to play so he can prepare for the draft is a red flag.
@Grier didn't get hurt either, so 100% for that side of the argument, too.@