(12-30-2018, 11:27 AM)navyjagfan Wrote: [ -> ] (12-29-2018, 12:07 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]I’m no expert but if the offseason can go like we hope then we can bounce right back.
We still have an elite defense. Bouye has been hurt a lot this year. I’ve heard Sharpe say Ramsey is playing some of his best football. So we still have an elite CB unit.
Harrison looked pretty good as a rookie. Gipson is still a pretty good gambler and takes homer in chances on picks, so our secondary is still very good.
Our LBs are the fastest in the NFL. I read where Jack is a beast in coverage. Smith lacks in coverage but makes up for it with scrappy turnovers and isn’t our leader on defense. Jacobs will have his rookie year behind him.
Yannick still has the ability to wreck games. I think Campbell comes back another year to give us 8-10 Paul Spicer type production. So that gives us a formidable pass rushers to go along with Abry Jones in the middle. Maybe Taven comes to life?
Over on offense we get Lee back and hopefully draft another WR. Westbrook has become our best offensive player. Maybe Hurnsy comes back? We need a spark at WR.
Most of all we have to draft a TE that can get on top of those LBs on 3rd down and separate. We need some improvement there.
We get our best offensive linemen back with Linder and Robinson. We need to draft a couple of linemen to protect whatever QB we go with. Will Grier? Case Keenum? Mike Glennon? Jarrett Stidham in the 4th?
Bohannon should be back to help lead the way for our backs.
Fournette gets one more shot to build off his rookie season and show the fans he is worthy. With a depleted oline and injuries, 2018 was a struggle. But he get so another shot. Yeldon comes back and does his thing. Grant comes back to give us a boost.
We get all of our special teamers back.
We keep Marrone and Coughlin but Dave goes. Coughlin makes all the calls.
We sign 2 or 3 key free agents and right the ship on our way to a 10 win 2019 season.
So many things wrong here - too hard to address them all. But saying that we'll sign 2 or 3 key free agents when we won't have enough cap space to even retain our own free agents? Heck, we're going to have to cut several players just to create enough cap room to sign the draft class, and let's not forget that Jack, Ramsey, and Yannick are going to need contract extensions and that will cost quite a bit.
Then the pink elephant in the room is QB. If they cut Bortles, which is far more likely than not, you have to sign a free agent QB to come in and that's going to cost at least $10 a year - likely more. Forget Foles or Bridgewater as they'll be too expensive, heck even Flacco will demand $10M plus per year. That leaves you with a re-tread like Fitzpatrick and another losing season next year.
(12-29-2018, 08:44 PM)Shelley Thompson Wrote: [ -> ]Lol
I typed something and posted it before proofreading. Was too busy to fix it so deleted until later.
I was going to add a few positive outlooks for the Jaguars 2019
Easier schedule
Out of the QB Twilight Zone
Just dawned on me. Marrone’s objective in benching Bortles and canning buddy Hatchett-distancing himself from failure. Signaling to his players that change is coming, do not give up.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
The schedule next year is harder, not easier.
They set the schedule already? I did not know that. I thought they looked at the results of the divisions and playoffs to decide the best matchups.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
(12-29-2018, 09:18 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]The future is bright if we land a bonafide franchise QB. And if our coaching staff doesn't try to shoehorn him into an archaic offensive system.
This is key. We're not going anywhere if our new QB is forced to fit into anything close to the crappy system that was made for Bortles. I question how much influence Marrone had on the direction of the offense. I know he is a fan of running vs passing. Since he's coming back, I feel like he would clash with any system that isn't as safe as run, run, pass punt.
(12-30-2018, 11:57 AM)Flagler Jagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (12-29-2018, 09:18 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]The future is bright if we land a bonafide franchise QB. And if our coaching staff doesn't try to shoehorn him into an archaic offensive system.
This is key. We're not going anywhere if our new QB is forced to fit into anything close to the crappy system that was made for Bortles. I question how much influence Marrone had on the direction of the offense. I know he is a fan of running vs passing. Since he's coming back, I feel like he would clash with any system that isn't as safe as run, run, pass punt.
I would only say that the crappy system wasn't made for Bortles, it was made to hide Bortles. The FO realized after his awful 2016 that there was no such thing as an offense that Bortles could excel in, but they weren't ready to take the blow to their ego/legacy and admit they missed, so they did the worst thing possible...draft a RB top 5, pay a guard top 5 OL money, and try like hell to hide the QB as much as possible.
The Jags pedestrian offense is awful, predictable, and easily defended. This has to change. Zero creativity, yah, yah, injuries. I get it. Yep, [BLEEP]-a-brick with QB extension.
Porous OL, mediocre WRs, pathetic TEs, confused secondary, no force at MLB, inexcusable penalties, and a lack of discipline across the board.
The rest of the AFC South are so far ahead of this team. IMO, the most disappointing season in franchise history.
(12-30-2018, 01:22 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ] (12-30-2018, 11:57 AM)Flagler Jagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]This is key. We're not going anywhere if our new QB is forced to fit into anything close to the crappy system that was made for Bortles. I question how much influence Marrone had on the direction of the offense. I know he is a fan of running vs passing. Since he's coming back, I feel like he would clash with any system that isn't as safe as run, run, pass punt.
I would only say that the crappy system wasn't made for Bortles, it was made to hide Bortles. The FO realized after his awful 2016 that there was no such thing as an offense that Bortles could excel in, but they weren't ready to take the blow to their ego/legacy and admit they missed, so they did the worst thing possible...draft a RB top 5, pay a guard top 5 OL money, and try like hell to hide the QB as much as possible.
This team needs a lot more than a new QB. The receivers are not good, no TE and most of the line is not good. Linder and Fournette are good but miss more games than they play.
(12-30-2018, 11:38 AM)Shelley Thompson Wrote: [ -> ] (12-30-2018, 11:27 AM)navyjagfan Wrote: [ -> ]So many things wrong here - too hard to address them all. But saying that we'll sign 2 or 3 key free agents when we won't have enough cap space to even retain our own free agents? Heck, we're going to have to cut several players just to create enough cap room to sign the draft class, and let's not forget that Jack, Ramsey, and Yannick are going to need contract extensions and that will cost quite a bit.
Then the pink elephant in the room is QB. If they cut Bortles, which is far more likely than not, you have to sign a free agent QB to come in and that's going to cost at least $10 a year - likely more. Forget Foles or Bridgewater as they'll be too expensive, heck even Flacco will demand $10M plus per year. That leaves you with a re-tread like Fitzpatrick and another losing season next year.
The schedule next year is harder, not easier.
They set the schedule already? I did not know that. I thought they looked at the results of the divisions and playoffs to decide the best matchups.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Yes, the schedule for next year is already basically set. There are only 2 games that are left to be decided, 1 game each against the AFC East and AFC North.
From Wikepdia:
Currently, the thirteen different opponents each team faces over the 16-game regular season schedule are set using a pre-determined formula:[6]- Each team plays twice against each of the other three teams in its division: once at home, and once on the road (six games).
- Each team plays once against each of the four teams from another division within its own conference, with the assigned division based on a three-year rotation: two at home, and two on the road (four games).
- Each team plays once against one team from each of the remaining two divisions within its conference, based on the final division standings from the prior season: one at home, one on the road (two games).
- Each team plays once against each of the four teams from a division in the other conference, with the assigned division based on a four-year rotation: two at home, and two on the road (four games).
Under this formula, all teams are guaranteed to play every other team in their own conference at least once every three years, and to play every team in the other conference exactly once every four years. The formula also guarantees a similar schedule for every team in a division each season, as all four teams will play fourteen out of their sixteen games against common opponents or each other.
2019 Schedule
Home:
Colts (10-6)
Titans (9-7)
Texans (11-5)
Jets (4-12)
Bengals (6-10)
Bucs (5-11)
Saints (13-3)
Chiefs (12-4)
Away:
Titans
Colts
Texans
Panthers (7-9)
Falcons (7-9)
Raiders (4-12)
Chargers (12-4)
Broncos (6-10)
I'm not so convinced.
By the time they fix the offense, the defense isn't going to be what you saw last year and this year.
Vets will be gone, good players will be let go (see Fowler) as contracts come up...
The time was now, but now is gone.
Now they'll have to balance holding together/restocking the defense while completely overhauling the offense.
Things haven't been this fragile in a couple years (out of what began as a three year or so window.)
(12-30-2018, 11:03 PM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]2019 Schedule
Home:
Colts (10-6)
Titans (9-7)
Texans (11-5)
Jets (4-12)
Bengals (6-10)
Bucs (5-11)
Saints (13-3)
Chiefs (12-4)
Away:
Titans
Colts
Texans
Panthers (7-9)
Falcons (7-9)
Raiders (4-12)
Chargers (12-4)
Broncos (6-10)
This isn't entirely accurate. One of the Chargers/Raiders (maybe Broncos, but they'd likely take a West Coast game) should be a home and one of the Jets/Bengals is away.
Rebuild now while our defensive weapons will be in their 2nd and 3rd years next year.
(12-30-2018, 11:10 PM)empty Wrote: [ -> ] (12-30-2018, 11:03 PM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]2019 Schedule
Home:
Colts (10-6)
Titans (9-7)
Texans (11-5)
Jets (4-12)
Bengals (6-10)
Bucs (5-11)
Saints (13-3)
Chiefs (12-4)
Away:
Titans
Colts
Texans
Panthers (7-9)
Falcons (7-9)
Raiders (4-12)
Chargers (12-4)
Broncos (6-10)
This isn't entirely accurate. One of the Chargers/Raiders (maybe Broncos, but they'd likely take a West Coast game) should be a home and one of the Jets/Bengals is away.
Chargers is a home game and the Broncos is an away game. Raiders is also an away game. Jets is a home game and Bengals is an away game.