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Hope everyone is having a great New Year's Day. Time to look forward to the offseason
 In no particular order, eight positions the Jaguars need to fill in FA/Draft:


Quarterback

Bortles played inconsistent and showed regression from last post-season run. The OL injuries played some role into it and the WRs dropping passes didn't help either. I would think the Jaguars keep him while the rookie sits. As soon as Bortles goes south in play, they will be calling for that new QB to come in. He may likely be released or traded before the deadline next season if he fails to hold the starting spot. Odds aren't in his favor. 

Right Guard

A. J.  Cann has showed inconsistency throughout his career. The only good thing going for him is his durability. Cann I believe is heading to FA this offseason. This needs to be upgraded. Along with solid depth. 

Tackle

I like Parnell. He did very well his first two seasons here. Had a bit of a drop-off in 2018. I would still like to keep him with a pay cut and see if he holds off Richardson and someone else next preseason. However,  this is the likely scenario where he is cut . Grab a OT for more competition. Regardless if Parnell stays or not. A little depth never hurt either. Seeing as how that worked out well last season.  :rolleyes:

Running Back

The damage is clearly done here. This needs to be blown up for the most part and start anew. Not enough out of Yeldon since being drafted in the 2nd round. Grant is the only one I think stays for depth and an UDFA likely with him. Hyde will be gone. And as for LF... He will likely be gone too. Find a dual-threat back to upgrade here. 

Wide Receiver 

This has been one of the most disappointing areas of the offense. Cole has taken a step back. Moncrief has been inconsistent on what he was paid for a 1-year deal and will not return. Greene will be gone and probably reunite with Winston in TB. Chark was up and down in his rookie season. Lee cannot stay on the field. Westbrook is stepping up.  How much of it played part of the QB play? Some.  The drops, however, were inexcusable. Need a true #1 WR here. 

Tight End

I know they are still investing in ASJ. The other TEs on the roster are nothing to brag about. Get an upgrade here. Two TE sets could help is WR is lackluster. 


Linebacker

Although Poz had great pre-snap adjustments, his play was slowing down. Then, Jack filled in this season. It had a few ups and down early on. But,  as the season progressed, it looked like a mess with players out of position. I know one year to judge someone on a position shift seems premature. But, I feel bringing in a solid MLB and putting Jack back outside would be beneficial. But,  they will likely keep him at MLB and upgrade at SLB. 

Return Specialist

This position has been a huge lackluster for this team the last two seasons. Ranking near the bottom 10 in the league in return yards. The last time the Jaguars had been in the top 5 in return yards was in 2010. Second only to Arizona. We would want that good field position and a couple of home runs along the way.

Bortles isn't coming back. The writing is on the wall. You don't pay him a small fortune to be on the roster next year when you know what you've got with him. Desgnate him as a post June 1 cut and you move on.

I don't get where anyone thinks LF is gone. You don't cut the #4 drafted player after two seasons, even if this past season was below expectations. His behavior was unacceptable, but it's not like he was caught beating a woman or anything serious like that. Just immaturity. He'll be given another chance. If anything, the Jags should have fired Caldwell for drafting him and Bortles.

Grant was paid almost $3M last year and unless he comes back at a vet minimum, I don't see him coming back. He didn't do much last year and other than straight line speed, he doesn't offer much in elusiveness and durability. Plus, lisfranc injuries are not easy to come back from for a running back.

(01-01-2019, 04:43 PM)Jagulars Wrote: [ -> ]Hope everyone is having a great New Year's Day. Time to look forward to the offseason
 In no particular order, eight positions the Jaguars need to fill in FA/Draft:
Quarterback
Bortles played inconsistent and showed regression from last post-season run. The OL injuries played some role into it and the WRs dropping passes didn't help either. I would think the Jaguars keep him while the rookie sits. As soon as Bortles goes south in play, they will be calling for that new QB to come in. He may likely be released or traded before the deadline next season if he fails to hold the starting spot. Odds aren't in his favor. 
Right Guard
A. J.  Cann has showed inconsistency throughout his career. The only good thing going for him is his durability. Cann I believe is heading to FA this offseason. This needs to be upgraded. Along with solid depth. 
Tackle
I like Parnell. He did very well his first two seasons here. Had a bit of a drop-off in 2018. I would still like to keep him with a pay cut and see if he holds off Richardson and someone else next preseason. However,  this is the likely scenario where he is cut . Grab a OT for more competition. Regardless if Parnell stays or not. A little depth never hurt either. Seeing as how that worked out well last season. 
Running Back
The damage is clearly done here. This needs to be blown up for the most part and start anew. Not enough out of Yeldon since being drafted in the 2nd round. Grant is the only one I think stays for depth and an UDFA likely with him. Hyde will be gone. And as for LF... He will likely be gone too. Find a dual-threat back to upgrade here. 
Wide Receiver 
This has been one of the most disappointing areas of the offense. Cole has taken a step back. Moncrief has been inconsistent on what he was paid for a 1-year deal and will not return. Greene will be gone and probably reunite with Winston in TB. Chark was up and down in his rookie season. Lee cannot stay on the field. Westbrook is stepping up.  How much of it played part of the QB play? Some.  The drops, however, were inexcusable. Need a true #1 WR here. 
Tight End
I know they are still investing in ASJ. The other TEs on the roster are nothing to brag about. Get an upgrade here. Two TE sets could help is WR is lackluster. 
Linebacker
Although Poz had great pre-snap adjustments, his play was slowing down. Then, Jack filled in this season. It had a few ups and down early on. But,  as the season progressed, it looked like a mess with players out of position. I know one year to judge someone on a position shift seems premature. But, I feel bringing in a solid MLB and putting Jack back outside would be beneficial. But,  they will likely keep him at MLB and upgrade at SLB. 
Return Specialist
This position has been a huge lackluster for this team the last two seasons. Ranking near the bottom 10 in the league in return yards. The last time the Jaguars had been in the top 5 in return yards was in 2010. Second only to Arizona. We would want that good field position and a couple of home runs along the way.

 - New blood at QB is absolutely on the way and I hope it involves that #7 overall pick. 

 - RG/RT  -  Will Richardson may end up in one of these spots.  I feel certain an o-linemen (probably two) will be drafted as well

 - RB can be approached a number of different ways - Not concerned - If they get the line rounded out, the RB spots aren't terribly difficult to fill out

- At WR - I like Lee/Westbrook/Chark but they'll need more. Unfortunately I don't think spending an early pick is an option due to greater need, so I would expect the position group to be rounded out with late picks and budget free agents. I'd keep an eye on the three receivers added to the PS squad recently as potential sleepers for the WR5 spot. 


 - I expect the Jags will take a TE somewhere between rounds 3-5 in the draft. I'd expect a mid-tier signing as well. 

- Any changes at LB probably depend upon whether Wash rides the storm out or not. May not change at all if he's retained. 

 - Westbrook is a very good return specialist, but I imagine the team will collect a few more candidates so that they may have depth/options and the ability to shield Westbrook from potential injury should they choose to do so. They won't spend big to do it.

(01-01-2019, 05:11 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-01-2019, 04:43 PM)Jagulars Wrote: [ -> ]Hope everyone is having a great New Year's Day. Time to look forward to the offseason
 In no particular order, eight positions the Jaguars need to fill in FA/Draft:
Quarterback
Bortles played inconsistent and showed regression from last post-season run. The OL injuries played some role into it and the WRs dropping passes didn't help either. I would think the Jaguars keep him while the rookie sits. As soon as Bortles goes south in play, they will be calling for that new QB to come in. He may likely be released or traded before the deadline next season if he fails to hold the starting spot. Odds aren't in his favor. 
Right Guard
A. J.  Cann has showed inconsistency throughout his career. The only good thing going for him is his durability. Cann I believe is heading to FA this offseason. This needs to be upgraded. Along with solid depth. 
Tackle
I like Parnell. He did very well his first two seasons here. Had a bit of a drop-off in 2018. I would still like to keep him with a pay cut and see if he holds off Richardson and someone else next preseason. However,  this is the likely scenario where he is cut . Grab a OT for more competition. Regardless if Parnell stays or not. A little depth never hurt either. Seeing as how that worked out well last season. 
Running Back
The damage is clearly done here. This needs to be blown up for the most part and start anew. Not enough out of Yeldon since being drafted in the 2nd round. Grant is the only one I think stays for depth and an UDFA likely with him. Hyde will be gone. And as for LF... He will likely be gone too. Find a dual-threat back to upgrade here. 
Wide Receiver 
This has been one of the most disappointing areas of the offense. Cole has taken a step back. Moncrief has been inconsistent on what he was paid for a 1-year deal and will not return. Greene will be gone and probably reunite with Winston in TB. Chark was up and down in his rookie season. Lee cannot stay on the field. Westbrook is stepping up.  How much of it played part of the QB play? Some.  The drops, however, were inexcusable. Need a true #1 WR here. 
Tight End
I know they are still investing in ASJ. The other TEs on the roster are nothing to brag about. Get an upgrade here. Two TE sets could help is WR is lackluster. 
Linebacker
Although Poz had great pre-snap adjustments, his play was slowing down. Then, Jack filled in this season. It had a few ups and down early on. But,  as the season progressed, it looked like a mess with players out of position. I know one year to judge someone on a position shift seems premature. But, I feel bringing in a solid MLB and putting Jack back outside would be beneficial. But,  they will likely keep him at MLB and upgrade at SLB. 
Return Specialist
This position has been a huge lackluster for this team the last two seasons. Ranking near the bottom 10 in the league in return yards. The last time the Jaguars had been in the top 5 in return yards was in 2010. Second only to Arizona. We would want that good field position and a couple of home runs along the way.

 - New blood at QB is absolutely on the way and I hope it involves that #7 overall pick. 

 - RG/RT  -  Will Richardson may end up in one of these spots.  I feel certain an o-linemen (probably two) will be drafted as well

 - RB can be approached a number of different ways - Not concerned - If they get the line rounded out, the RB spots aren't terribly difficult to fill out

- At WR - I like Lee/Westbrook/Chark but they'll need more. Unfortunately I don't think spending an early pick is an option due to greater need, so I would expect the position group to be rounded out with late picks and budget free agents. I'd keep an eye on the three receivers added to the PS squad recently as potential sleepers for the WR5 spot. 


 - I expect the Jags will take a TE somewhere between rounds 3-5 in the draft. I'd expect a mid-tier signing as well. 

- Any changes at LB probably depend upon whether Wash rides the storm out or not. May not change at all if he's retained. 

 - Westbrook is a very good return specialist, but I imagine the team will collect a few more candidates so that they may have depth/options and the ability to shield Westbrook from potential injury should they choose to do so. They won't spend big to do it.

As far as WR I think this draft is littered with potential sleepers:

Diontae Johnson from Toledo is around Dede's size, 5'11 180, likely a touch slower but could fill that return role (4 return TDs the last 2 seasons) and he's a pretty solid route runner too.

The following trio all guys around 6'3:

Xavier Ubosi is big play WR, averaged almost 24 yards a catch this season with 8 TDs. 

Tyre Brady out of Marshall, great job adjusting to passes, threat to score in the red zone 7 of his 9 TDs this year were in the redzone.

Keelan Doss UC Davis. He lit up the FCS level, like Brady great at adjusting to passes, great field awareness seen him make several sideline catches and get both feet in.

2 new QBs- Haskins and McCown
WR- Golden Tate and a rookie
TE- Iowa guy round 2.
OLine- 2 in rounds 3-5
RB- most likely gonna be Fournette and 2 rookies.

Really it all starts with the QBs they bring in. That’s gonna he the end all be all this off season.

The Jags kept Dante Fowler for 4 years. You really think they're ditching their 1000yd rusher after 2 seasons?

QB
7th overall pick and Blake

OL
Resign Cann, Shatley, Omameh, midround pick

RB
Resign Yeldon, UDFAs or late rd pick

TE
Rounds 3-5, maybe add another through FA

WR
I could see them spending some money here and targeting some mid to late round prospects.

LB
I liked Jacobs as a rookie, wouldn’t mind seeing a MLB prospect added as you mentioned to provide some depth to a thin group.

I think they will grab one of the excellent defensive line prospects with their 2nd rd pick and probably another defensive player or two late.

(01-01-2019, 06:05 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]The Jags kept Dante Fowler for 4 years. You really think they're ditching their 1000yd rusher after 2 seasons?

The NFL is a strange business regarding moves. Anything could happen. History, time and time again has proven that since the start of Trades and FA.

(01-01-2019, 05:11 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] - New blood at QB is absolutely on the way and I hope it involves that #7 overall pick. 

If Haskins is gone by 6, I hope you are wrong.

(01-02-2019, 04:23 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-01-2019, 05:11 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] - New blood at QB is absolutely on the way and I hope it involves that #7 overall pick. 

If Haskins is gone by 6, I hope you are wrong.

The #7 overall pick would still almost certainly be involved (included) in a trade up for Haskins.

I seen some saying Jags should look to trade Telvin. Idk I'd say see if his play gets better next season or not but then it may be too late.

https://twitter.com/zach_goodall/status/...7292270597

(01-01-2019, 06:05 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]The Jags kept Dante Fowler for 4 years. You really think they're ditching their 1000yd rusher after 2 seasons?

Great question.  The Jags seem pretty pissed off at Fournette.  They don't like his immaturity and lack of professionalism.  At all.   Then they voided the guarantees in his contract.  That's a pretty strong statement.  

A lot of people would say there are about 50 running backs who can run for 1,000 yards if you give them a good offensive line and a balanced offense.

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(01-02-2019, 06:58 PM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]I seen some saying Jags should look to trade Telvin. Idk I'd say see if his play gets better next season or not but then it may be too late.

https://twitter.com/zach_goodall/status/...7292270597

The thing about Telvin is, in my opinion, Myles Jack would be a much better WLB than MLB.  But Telvin is in that WLB spot.  If you watch our run defense, Telvin is just too light to be a good run defender.  He gets blocked, he misses tackles.  Sure, he makes a splash play every now and then in pass defense.  But we need a real MLB, and that means Myles has to move somewhere.  And the logical place for him to move is to WLB.

(01-02-2019, 06:58 PM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]I seen some saying Jags should look to trade Telvin. Idk I'd say see if his play gets better next season or not but then it may be too late.

https://twitter.com/zach_goodall/status/...7292270597

Would be interesting to see when and where those miscues or over pursuits occurred. Not trying to make too many excuses for him. Because he was handed a nice extension in the off season last year. But the offense was atrocious and the defense probably spent entirely too much time on the football field last year as a unit. 

I think they do need to consider securing a legitimate and more natural player at the ILB position to kick Jack back outside where Jacobs played as a rookie last year. I honestly wouldn't mind them trading down a little bit in the first round if they feel they won't land Haskins at QB. I like Devin White out of LSU. 

I think he would be a great fit here in the middle. From what I have read he's very sharp and has a high football I.Q and can more than likely pick up the pace in the NFL and lead a unit when needed. I feel like we missed that back there in 2018. Too many guys looking around, lost at times. Pointing fingers. Need a guy that can reign everybody in and keep them lined up accordingly. 

If they can't land White. Mack Wilson out of Alabama would be a nice pick-up if he somehow slips out of RD1 and he's there on day two early for us in RD2.

We have a lot of areas of improvement. In my opinion, this is a good LB, TE, WR draft. LB is a strong need. We still haven’t found or at least seen a consistent TE on this team. Although, I do like the looks of that new kid that played last few games. Name escapes me. Of course, the OL and QB need attention as well.

(01-03-2019, 09:05 AM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]We have a lot of areas of improvement. In my opinion, this is a good LB, TE, WR draft. LB is a strong need. We still haven’t found or at least seen a consistent TE on this team. Although, I do like the looks of that new kid that played last few games. Name ascapes me. Of course, the OL and QB need attention as well.

Blake or Drake Bell I think is the guy you're thinking of. I agree though about the TE position. Lewis had one big year in the receiving game and then was regulated to edge blocking but he also had a horrible string of drops over the years. I feel like Kyle Brady ended up being the same way here before him. 

Noah Fant out of Iowa would be a good pick-up. May be there in RD3. Reminds me a lot of Mark Andrews out of OKU last year. He's flashed here and there with the Ravens.

(01-01-2019, 04:43 PM)Jagulars Wrote: [ -> ]Hope everyone is having a great New Year's Day. Time to look forward to the offseason
 In no particular order, eight positions the Jaguars need to fill in FA/Draft:


Quarterback

Bortles played inconsistent and showed regression from last post-season run. The OL injuries played some role into it and the WRs dropping passes didn't help either. I would think the Jaguars keep him while the rookie sits. As soon as Bortles goes south in play, they will be calling for that new QB to come in. He may likely be released or traded before the deadline next season if he fails to hold the starting spot. Odds aren't in his favor. 

Right Guard

A. J.  Cann has showed inconsistency throughout his career. The only good thing going for him is his durability. Cann I believe is heading to FA this offseason. This needs to be upgraded. Along with solid depth. 

Tackle

I like Parnell. He did very well his first two seasons here. Had a bit of a drop-off in 2018. I would still like to keep him with a pay cut and see if he holds off Richardson and someone else next preseason. However,  this is the likely scenario where he is cut . Grab a OT for more competition. Regardless if Parnell stays or not. A little depth never hurt either. Seeing as how that worked out well last season. 

Running Back

The damage is clearly done here. This needs to be blown up for the most part and start anew. Not enough out of Yeldon since being drafted in the 2nd round. Grant is the only one I think stays for depth and an UDFA likely with him. Hyde will be gone. And as for LF... He will likely be gone too. Find a dual-threat back to upgrade here. 

Wide Receiver 

This has been one of the most disappointing areas of the offense. Cole has taken a step back. Moncrief has been inconsistent on what he was paid for a 1-year deal and will not return. Greene will be gone and probably reunite with Winston in TB. Chark was up and down in his rookie season. Lee cannot stay on the field. Westbrook is stepping up.  How much of it played part of the QB play? Some.  The drops, however, were inexcusable. Need a true #1 WR here. 

Tight End

I know they are still investing in ASJ. The other TEs on the roster are nothing to brag about. Get an upgrade here. Two TE sets could help is WR is lackluster. 


Linebacker

Although Poz had great pre-snap adjustments, his play was slowing down. Then, Jack filled in this season. It had a few ups and down early on. But,  as the season progressed, it looked like a mess with players out of position. I know one year to judge someone on a position shift seems premature. But, I feel bringing in a solid MLB and putting Jack back outside would be beneficial. But,  they will likely keep him at MLB and upgrade at SLB. 

Return Specialist

This position has been a huge lackluster for this team the last two seasons. Ranking near the bottom 10 in the league in return yards. The last time the Jaguars had been in the top 5 in return yards was in 2010. Second only to Arizona. We would want that good field position and a couple of home runs along the way.

Bortles is gonzo. They won't be inviting him back. I think the team will be going after Haskins, whatever it takes, but if they don't feel like he's the guy and don't like anyone else, don't force it. Forcing it is how you get Blaine Gabbert and Blake Bortles.

Cann has been consistent throughout his career. Consistently awful, and letting him go will be another sign that Bortles is done. After all, we're taking away his favorite receiver (the back of Cann's helmet).

I'm torn on Parnell. He regressed last year and just looked bad by the end of the season, and at his age that's not a good sign. The scary part of all this is that I think Ereck Flowers would become the front-runner to replace him unless Will Richardson makes a quantum leap this offseason.

I would be very surprised if Hyde wasn't in camp. I would hope Grant is--he's the only real spark we have at the position. If Yeldon's departure wasn't a sure thing before the bench incident, it is now. If the voiding of Fournette's guarantees holds up, I expect the team to trade him. If it doesn't, I think he'll be given one last chance in camp.

The receiver position as a whole was a disappointment, and as much as I loved Keenan as a player, I think the coach should have changed there. Cole was a budding star as recently as week 2 of 2018 and imploded as the season went on. Westbrook might have stud potential and Chark is an unknown. Lee can't stay on the field, and of our 2017 receivers, we kept the wrong one.

Tight end is a position we might not be able to invest heavily in. ASJ should return, but we're going to have to look to either mid-tier free agency or a day 2 or 3 pick to find a young guy with upside. O'Shaughnessey, Bell and Koyack aren't guys to build around.

Jack was at his best in a role where he played Sam in the base set and Mike in passing sets. The team needs a true middle linebacker, and I'd like to see us go after Sean Lee on a prove-it contract, either one year or incentive-laden.

Return specialists are guys you find late in the draft or on the street, for the most part. I don't see this team investing heavily in a return man.

(01-03-2019, 09:11 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-03-2019, 09:05 AM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]We have a lot of areas of improvement. In my opinion, this is a good LB, TE, WR draft. LB is a strong need. We still haven’t found or at least seen a consistent TE on this team. Although, I do like the looks of that new kid that played last few games. Name ascapes me. Of course, the OL and QB need attention as well.

Blake or Drake Bell I think is the guy you're thinking of. I agree though about the TE position. Lewis had one big year in the receiving game and then was regulated to edge blocking but he also had a horrible string of drops over the years. I feel like Kyle Brady ended up being the same way here before him. 

Noah Fant out of Iowa would be a good pick-up. May be there in RD3. Reminds me a lot of Mark Andrews out of OKU last year. He's flashed here and there with the Ravens.

Bell, that’s him! Plays tough. I like the Fant kid as a good pass catching TE. Kind of on the smallish side for blocking and it showed as one of his weaknesses. The kid has a ton of athleticism though. Because he is a little outside the NFL prototype , I could see him maybe dropping to round2, high 3. He has the Kelce vibe so can’t see him lasting beyond RD 3.

(01-02-2019, 04:23 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]If Haskins is gone by 6, I hope you are wrong.

You and fans who think like you need psychological help. Any QB in the NFL 2019 Draft, including Haskins, will be nothing special in the league. Yall are all snake bit by Gabbert and Bortles and can't see this QB class for what it is. Mediocre. Every time I see posts like yours I lose brain cells. It's mind boggling.

(01-05-2019, 12:22 PM)Setsuna00 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-02-2019, 04:23 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]If Haskins is gone by 6, I hope you are wrong.

You and fans who think like you need psychological help. Any QB in the NFL 2019 Draft, including Haskins, will be nothing special in the league. Yall are all snake bit by Gabbert and Bortles and can't see this QB class for what it is. Mediocre. Every time I see posts like yours I lose brain cells. It's mind boggling.

Lol. Fans need psychological help if they view prospects different than you do? I think you might be the one suffering from some mental health issues, bud.

(01-02-2019, 04:23 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-01-2019, 05:11 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] - New blood at QB is absolutely on the way and I hope it involves that #7 overall pick. 

If Haskins is gone by 6, I hope you are wrong.

(01-05-2019, 12:22 PM)Setsuna00 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-02-2019, 04:23 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]If Haskins is gone by 6, I hope you are wrong.

You and fans who think like you need psychological help. Any QB in the NFL 2019 Draft, including Haskins, will be nothing special in the league. Yall are all snake bit by Gabbert and Bortles and can't see this QB class for what it is. Mediocre. Every time I see posts like yours I lose brain cells. It's mind boggling.

Way to take my post COMPLETELY out of context. I included the context for your reference. I was stating that drafting any other QB at 7 besides Haskins would be horrible, which tends to agree with your negativity regarding this year's prospects.

Maybe we chalk this one up to all those lost brain cells?